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HELP-Avenue closed Sunday! Need fine dining in Manhattan Beach.....

tokyoastrogirl Aug 31, 2006 04:45 PM

I had my heart set on taking my husband to Avenue on Sunday night for his birthday and they informed me that they are closed Sunday evening for the holiday. They must be doing well to close a beach-side restaurant on a three day weekend!!! I know there are few options in that area, so I made reservations at both Cafe Peire and Petro's. Are both good? Is there something new and wonderful that I don't know about? How is the wine list at both places? Looking for nice ambience (romantic), GREAT food and a good wine list. Manhattan/Hermosa area.....

Thank you.

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    S DAG Aug 31, 2006 05:10 PM

    Cafe Pierre has good food, but it is not terribly romantic - the room is small and the tables are close together. Petros, I've heard, has good food, but I've also heard the room can get a bit noisy.

    Another option is Mangiamo. They have a back room that is romantic and the food is pretty good. Their sister restaurant Thalia's also has good food.

    1. tokyoastrogirl Aug 31, 2006 06:00 PM

      Is the back room the wine cellar?

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        S DAG Aug 31, 2006 06:06 PM

        I think so.

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        revets2 Aug 31, 2006 06:02 PM

        i've eaten at petros thrice and every experience has been rock solid. to avoid the noise, reserve a table on the patio outside, which is very pleasant if it's not too cold.

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          carter Aug 31, 2006 06:11 PM

          Used to hear a fair amount about Michi on Manhattan Ave., yet have not heard anything in quite a while. Is it still a decent-good place for dinner? It has been around for about 10 years as I recall.

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            tuttifrutti Aug 31, 2006 06:39 PM

            good food, but gets noisy real fast.

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            JBC Aug 31, 2006 06:19 PM

            Here's an FYI to your SOS.

            How about:

            1) Your own private Cabana
            2) By the roof top pool
            3) With a view of the Ocean (*)
            4) Large Wine List
            5) Interesting Tapas menu
            6) In Manhattan Beach

            Is that something you were looking for?

            For all of the above you might have to be a guest of the hotel? A simple phone call could solve that mystery, and I think they have the usual hotel dining, at:

            The Shade Hotel - opened just 6-8 months (approx.)
            1221 N. Valley Drive
            Manhattan Beach
            (310) 546-4995

            http://www.shadehotel.com

            http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?add...

            (*) I'm hoping you can see the Ocean from up there.

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              carter Aug 31, 2006 07:21 PM

              Do hope the food is better than that wine list. Only 1 wine for $60, all others less expensive, except for a few bubblies, and the one at $60 was Provenance that is $20 at Costco all the time, and not worth that.

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                unfound Sep 1, 2006 10:14 PM

                I'm not a big fan of the food at Shade. Nice lobby and all... but I don't know that I would call it fine dining. For a romantic (but decidedly not pricey dinner), try the Creperie in Hermosa and BYOB. Wine store on the corner should you forget. The ragout is amazing as are the escargot.

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                revets2 Aug 31, 2006 07:22 PM

                was very unimpressed with the food and service here. but i've only been once.

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                  Stassage Aug 31, 2006 07:45 PM

                  Try Jackson's on Pier Ave. in Hermosa Beach. I only ate there once but the food was good and the price was right - Two dinners plus a bottle of wine for under $100. Also had great service and romantic atmosphere.

                  1. wowimadog Aug 31, 2006 08:31 PM

                    too bad about avenue; it's our favorite. upscale choices with great food are so limited in manhattan beach (er, all of the south bay). we didn't find the food at shade inspiring and it was pretty expensive for what it was. petro's ( http://www.petrosrestaurant.com/ ) would be a solid choice, though you'll lack the intimacy of avenue. since you're open to hermosa (even though it's fiesta weekend-ech), we had a great meal at il boccaccio ( http://www.ilboccaccio.com/ ). you could go to the mermaid or poop deck for kitschy cocktails beforehand.

                    1. wowimadog Sep 1, 2006 07:01 PM

                      ps there is a new chocolate/wine/tapas bar downtown right near the kettle (in the spot that used to be the banyan). i saw a lot of these chocolate bars this summer in chicago and was wondering when they would make their way out west. while i haven't tried it yet, might be something fun to check out. plus, they have vosges, so could it be all that bad?

                      coco noche
                      1140 highland avenue
                      manhattan beach ca 90266
                      http://www.coconoche.com/
                      everyday from 10am to 10pm, friday and saturday until 11pm

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                        Vickie McCorkendale Sep 1, 2006 07:41 PM

                        If Avenue isn't available and you want good FOOD, go to Petro's. If you want good atmosphere, try Mangiamo's or Talia.

                        I don't recommend Cafe Pierre, ever, the food just isn't that good. Same goes for Michi, which used to be about the food and now is only about the scene.

                        Do try Coco Noche. We've been there a few times already and have found it to be fun and entertaining. They have some tapas dishes, which we haven't tried yet. I can recommend the Vosges chocolate / wine flights. Also the caramel (more like toffee as they are hard, not chewey) and wine sampler. Some of the pairings are more interesting than excellent, but the fun is tasting and comparing each combination. The menu is quite a read and somewhat overwhelmingly complex, but the staff are very helpful and excited to help you make the right choice. It's good fun and definately unique in the South Bay.

                        Enjoy!

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                          revets2 Sep 1, 2006 10:15 PM

                          wow! vosges chocolates! we received these from chicago as a gift and now give them all the time. they're amazing.

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                            Vickie McCorkendale Sep 2, 2006 11:59 PM

                            They carry two types of chocolate. One brand from a New York boutique chocolatier and the other is Vosges. They do not carry the whole line of the Vosges brand, but their selection is very nice.

                            Have you checked out the Vosges store in Las Vegas at the Cesar's Palace shops? Great fun!

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                              Dommy Sep 5, 2006 05:30 PM

                              Surfas carried Vosges chocolate bars and the candy counter at Neimans in BH carries their truffles! :) But living nearby, I have to check this place out!! :)

                              --Dommy!

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                            Nicole Sep 6, 2006 03:56 AM

                            What is the pricing like at Coco Noche? Thanks.

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                              Vickie McCorkendale Sep 10, 2006 03:13 PM

                              Coco Noche isn't cheap, but neither is chocolate. I belive a three tasting of chocolate paired with wine (2 oz. pours) is $18.00. The pricing for the food seemed very reasonable, which is why I need to get back and try it for lunch... I'm a sucker for a good quiche and they have one on the menu. The owners are a Korean family and they have Kal-Bi (sp?), bbq beef rib slices on the menu that looked fabulous.
                              Stop by and check it out!

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                            food_natzi Oct 14, 2006 12:37 AM

                            Probably too late, but have you tried La Sosta, not too far from Avenue in Hermosa

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                              Alfredo Garcia Oct 14, 2006 01:08 AM

                              I drove through there the other day and I saw that La Sosta is either an update or a new restaurant in that space. What is the story?

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                                food_natzi Oct 25, 2006 02:55 AM

                                good, but spendy for the area

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