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Stew Aug 31, 2006 02:03 AM

Just read that Mario's show wasn't renewed on
the Food Network. Anyone know anything?

  1. ChinoWayne Aug 31, 2006 03:10 AM

    They need the timeslot so they can show us more "Unwrapped" episodes of the Pringles canning line, and more "Ham On The Street" monkeying around, Mario doesn't have anything to teach us.

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    1. re: ChinoWayne
      TexasToast Sep 2, 2006 02:57 AM

      Unwrapped sucks as does that one with the black guy who goes around candy factories and eats lollipops!

      TT

      1. re: ChinoWayne
        Porthos Oct 21, 2006 06:55 AM

        I agree. FN's systematic attempts to eliminate talent is impressive. Re-runs of Molto Mario were 1 of the few last legitimate shows left on the FN and they rightly determined that it didn't fit into their line of minimally talented chefs (for the ones that actually went to culinary school).

        It's up to the likes of Flay, Emeril, Ray, et al. to spoonfeed bland cuisine to the unsuspecting public. The days of food education and culinary discovery are over. Hail the era of uninspired mediocre programming.

        I swear it's real life Fountainhead.

      2. Sarah Aug 31, 2006 03:13 AM

        And his cleavage isn't in the right place!

        1. applehome Aug 31, 2006 03:41 AM

          Great news. I love Mario, he's just too real to be on the TV putz network with those other clowns. He'll probably end up doing something else with Bourdain or just by himself - showing people what real appetites, real food, and a real gusto for life is all about. Next to go - Alton. And then they'll all be bozo's on that bus. (ok, maybe an ewok or two...)

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          1. re: applehome
            bobzemuda Sep 2, 2006 02:31 AM

            Bourdain hates Batali. Don't see that one happening.

            After reading Heat, it seems like they should get along though.

            1. re: bobzemuda
              applehome Sep 2, 2006 05:40 AM

              "Heat is a remarkable work on a number of fronts--and for a number of reasons. First, watching the author, an untrained, inexperienced and middle-aged desk jockey slowly transform into not just a useful line cook--but an extraordinarily knowledgable one is pure pleasure."

              That's Bourdain reviewing Heat on Amazon.com. Here's the page for the complete review:
              http://www.amazon.com/Heat-An-Amateur...

              I guess you also didn't see the No Reservations in NJ, or read the chapter, Is Celebrity Killing the Great Chefs, in his latest book, The Nasty Bits. He has nothing but good things to say about Mario. The comedy bit at the end of the No Reservations with the two of them together was great - they obviously got along.

              1. re: bobzemuda
                extramsg Sep 6, 2006 12:53 AM

                I think you've got that backwards. Bourdain LOOOOOVES Batali. When I met him, he always used him as an example of what's right with food trends in America. See here:

                http://www.extramsg.com/modules.php?n...

                ---STARTQUOTE
                Do you think that's partially the result of people like yourself and even people that you somewhat disdain like the Emeril's and the Bobby Flays of the world?

                I think you can look at people like Mario Batali who really highlighted it at the restaurants, who used that fame and panache of being on TV, that cache of being on TV to get people to eat things they might not have otherwise eaten.

                You're going to Seattle next, is that right? Are you going to eat at Batali's dad's place?

                Absolutely. I think Salumi should be a national monument. They should put yellow police tape a block in every direction around it to protect that thing like a national monument. Absolutely incredible -- everything good about the world is encapsulated by that man and that restaurant, that operation. It's historic. Look at the influence that place has -- how many people are curing their own meat now. That's a perfect place. That's a happy man -- a guy who left Boeing as an engineer late in life and said, "You know what, I'm going to go out and learn how to make -- you know, really make -- Italian cured meats," and went out and did it. He's using spectacular amounts of the total supply of pork cheeks in the entire Pacific Northwest. I love that.
                ---ENDQUOTE

                I think he also admires Batali's drinking prowess.

                Molto Mario was a great food network show. He put more information and technique into a half hour than any other chef on television. And while he had guests, it never turned into Hollywood Squares -- some odd way of promoting some celeb's next book. You hardly knew they were celebrities.

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                  oaklandfoodie Sep 8, 2006 11:28 PM

                  Agreed, he only had good things to say about Mario when he spoke at The Commonwealth Club in San Francisco.

                  He trashed Emeril - but said his cookware line was of actual quality. Interesting...

                  1. re: oaklandfoodie
                    amkirkland Oct 18, 2006 02:51 AM

                    I love my Emeril 12 inch fry pan (stainless)

              2. re: applehome
                oakjoan Nov 1, 2006 03:28 AM

                I totally agree. I really don't like the Food Network. I will admit to loving Nigella, but I admit she's over-gushy and I don't really understand why I like her so much. I guess because she's provided me with loads o great recipes.

                Mario B never fit on FoodTV I never could figure out how they ever hired him in the first place. Now maybe he'll join the wonderful PBS lineup of Bayless, Bittman, Pepin, Lydia B., etc.

              3. yayadave Aug 31, 2006 04:03 AM

                Maybe it's just a salary concern determining who stays and who goes.

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                  melly Aug 31, 2006 05:18 AM

                  Another good one bites the dust.

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                    grapevine Aug 31, 2006 12:57 PM

                    I had heard a while back that Mario chose to end production of the show.

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                      MMRuth Aug 31, 2006 01:53 PM

                      I was wondering if that might be the case - he may be feeling a bit overextended these days.

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                        Carb Lover Aug 31, 2006 02:54 PM

                        I'm confused; didn't production of new Molto Mario shows stop a long time ago? Is the OP saying that the one or two time slots given to reruns of MM are no longer in the schedule? I haven't seen MM in ages, so this cancellation doesn't feel like a huge loss to me (although I really liked the show).

                        Of course, we can still catch Mario on Iron Chef America. More so than any other Food TV star, I've seen him give alot of thanks and credit for his success to the network.

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                        swsidejim Aug 31, 2006 05:36 PM

                        my 2 cents:

                        losing Mario, no big deal, he wasnt reinventing the weheel on his show, just rehashing some Italian recepies.

                        Next one who should be gone is Emeril,

                        Paula Dean(sp) is the best cook on that network,

                        1. stevuchan Aug 31, 2006 06:39 PM

                          Just great, hope that does not mean more Rachel Ray. Gads, that woman get on my last nerve. Speaking of Paula I saw an interesting recipe of hers, First you start off with some butter, bacon grease, crisco, lard, and did I forget butter..... I think her blood type is Gravy.

                          Cheers.

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                            swsidejim Aug 31, 2006 07:19 PM

                            stev

                            gotta love food/ingredients that puts meat on your bones, I tried a recipe of hers where you deep fry instant biscuits, and squirt into them a combination of melted butter & honey. My chest hurts thinking about them...

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                              gridder Oct 22, 2006 03:26 AM

                              Snort (spewing tea out) that is too funny.

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                              pablissima Aug 31, 2006 11:00 PM

                              You forgot the mayo she finished it off with. Mario's food I loved, but then again, it was good Italian regional food, and I liked learning about the differences in say, Ligurian approach to rice vs Piedmontese. All I ever learned from Paula was that my cholesterol could be much much worse than it is. I don't know who could eat any of the things she makes.

                              I'll miss Mario. If only there was a way to trade places between him and Rachel Ray or that semihomemade woman. Or that pointless Unwrapped show. Or those even more pointless festival shows and cake decorating competitions.

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                                kare_raisu Sep 1, 2006 02:44 AM

                                lol...i think she is even worse than RR...if thats possible?

                                i agree with pablissima. i did enjoy his wealth of knowledge when it came to food history and geography -- not many chefs incorporate that (alth. it did come with a tad bit arrogance).

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                                  cuisine Sep 7, 2006 10:42 PM

                                  They keep an ambulance waiting ya'll.

                                2. Xericx Sep 1, 2006 07:08 AM

                                  I loved Mario eats Italy and his other show Ciao America (its on my Tivo Season pass).....his molto mario show was reaaaaly boring though.

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                                    TexasToast Sep 1, 2006 11:19 AM

                                    Yes, Malto Mario WAS boring!

                                    TT

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                                      ChowFun_derek Sep 1, 2006 11:25 PM

                                      Yeah, I guess real cooking and historical backround into regional Italian cooking IS boring!!!!!
                                      and I have never seen him rude to his taster/guests....ever..!

                                      1. re: ChowFun_derek
                                        Funwithfood Sep 2, 2006 12:17 AM

                                        I found him both boring and haughty, but that doesn't mean he isn't talented or knowledgeable--two very different 'things'.

                                        During every show I saw of Molto Mario (admittedly few), he was condescending or in some way dismissive to at least one of his "guests". Perhaps I just got lucky. Hey, to each his own...

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                                          TexasToast Sep 2, 2006 01:31 AM

                                          Exactly! Mario just didn't do it for me. But then neither does Sara Moulton.

                                          TT

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                                            2chez mike Oct 31, 2006 12:17 AM

                                            To me Sara Moulton is, hands down, the most boring TV chef ever. She's so boring I'm actually entertained by her.

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                                              kare_raisu Oct 31, 2006 02:49 AM

                                              at least she cooked

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                                          TexasToast Sep 2, 2006 02:47 AM

                                          Yes, it was REALLY boring.

                                          TT

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                                            Michele4466 Sep 2, 2006 01:00 PM

                                            TT,

                                            Tell us how you REALLY feel... LOL

                                            I agree with "funwithfood"... Boring and haughty yet knowledgable and talented. I have no feelings about the cancellation either way, haven't really watched one of his shows for a while...I did, however, like "Mario eats Italy" because my memories of Italy are my fondest vacation memories. My best tripped involved the wedding of a friend to an Italian gentleman on the Amalfi coast and living with his family (extended) in a small town about 10 minutes away for three weeks. Trip included mini excursions to Rome and the surrounding towns and cities for a few days here and there...The show seemed to bring me back many times...

                                            Why I am indifferent is because, on one of my visits to Po, I believe it was Po, a few years ago (maybe more than a few), Mario was extremely rude. Turned me and my friends off a bit. Perhaps he was having a bad night but I have heard similar stories.

                                            He is a telented chef and businessman though. Anyone tried his cookware line?

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                                      David The Diner Sep 2, 2006 02:00 AM

                                      I wasn't a big fan of Molto Mario. Wasn't that the show where he traveled all over Italy and yapped all the time? It was too much talk and not enough cooking for me. I do enjoy watching him create on Iron Chef, though. He is a talented chef.

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                                        TexasToast Sep 2, 2006 02:13 AM

                                        Me either. I never liked Molto Mario. It just didn't have any pace to it. It just kinda dragged on.

                                        TT

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                                          Carb Lover Sep 2, 2006 02:15 AM

                                          No, that was Mario Eats Italy. I didn't care for that show so much either. His sidekick was kinda annoying (isn't he on some Alton shows now?) and show centered around Mario too much. Wanted to learn more from those in Italy.

                                          I personally really liked Molto Mario, especially in its early days shot in the older, bare bones set sans guests. Mario packs in so much info and can multi-task so seamlessly. I didn't really care for the added dimension of guests since their questions usually were very basic or sounded rehearsed. Never found him that condescending towards guests, but never found him to be that warm or inviting either. Seemed like a good ole boys club at times though since he had fewer female guests than male.

                                          I would rather watch Mario than most that are on these days...

                                        2. Tom M of Durham NC Sep 2, 2006 02:25 AM

                                          Love, love, love Molto Mario. You get to watch a guy work in the kitchen who really knows what he's doing and who knows how to explain food origins, technique, wine pairings, etc. I'm usually (but not always) interested in what he's cooking but I always find his insights about regional differences and the 'whys' of food preparation fascinating. His enthusiasm and expertise come across as genuine and I find that very compelling. The guy is an expert in a field--he's the anti-Rachel Ray. I hope he turns up somewhere else on the dial.

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                                            TexasToast Sep 2, 2006 02:30 AM

                                            Well, he may well be, but whatever floats your boat. I'd rather watch Rachel Ray.

                                            TT

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                                              Funwithfood Sep 2, 2006 02:45 PM

                                              ...now you're going to far TT...

                                              (I hear they use RR shows as a torture technique--quite effective, I'm sure!)

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                                                TexasToast Sep 3, 2006 09:05 PM

                                                Well, they wouldn't let me say what I REALLY wanted to say. RR's not that bad, for what she does.

                                                TT

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                                            chilipalmer Sep 2, 2006 06:35 AM

                                            The original greatness of Molto Mario was he, himself, cooking the recipes of unique and idosyncratic dishes. After three-(maybe ten)- times through each one, it was time (for the FN)to move ahead. Mario is too self-promoting not to be dreaming up something new.

                                            1. Betty Sep 3, 2006 09:12 PM

                                              I liked Mario fine - but not the guests, who asked some of the most inane questions ever. I learned more from him than Paula Dean. I read her cookbook recently and it was indistinguishable from any good southern small town church cookbook, of which I already have several - including the deep-fried biscuits with honey mentioned in the thread above. She's not inventing anything new either, but she is good at what she does.

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                                                yayadave Sep 4, 2006 05:21 AM

                                                I sort of figured that those inane questions were "plants."

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                                                ChrisZ Sep 4, 2006 02:42 AM

                                                Say what you will, but Mario is probably the best chef on the food network. I rather enjoyed Molto Mario in the same way that I enjoy Essence of Emeril. They are both shows that are meant to educate. That said there are only so many recipes and time you can do a show before it runs its course.

                                                1. Cpt Wafer Sep 4, 2006 04:28 PM

                                                  > Mario Cancelled

                                                  Just read that Mario's show wasn't renewed on
                                                  the Food Network. Anyone know anything?<

                                                  Yes. FN bites.

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                                                    foodISlove Sep 5, 2006 12:40 AM

                                                    Love Mario. Love his food. Love that cute little ditty that they play...anyone know the music? Are we certain he's off FN, or is someone just toying with us?

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                                                      TexasToast Sep 5, 2006 08:58 AM

                                                      The one that went tut-tu-rut-tu-rut-tu-tuuuuuuuu?

                                                      Annoying as hell!

                                                      TT

                                                    2. DiveFan Sep 5, 2006 01:42 AM

                                                      I'm puzzling by posters who consider Batali arrogant or rude.
                                                      On MM the pace is highly caffeinated - he speaks loud, fast and occasionally (accidently) cuts people off. I would too in order to cover the script in < 25 minutes. Also, I love his use of the quick drop-down map of Italy since my mental GPS isn't that great. Ms. Bastianich and Esposito don't use maps :-\.
                                                      Mario Eats Italy was great mainly due to MB's cohort, the ROFL hilarious Steve Rooney.
                                                      Mario Eats America (correct name?) had too few episodes and was never scheduled consistently so I could see it. FN execs showed their broadcast-network like stupidity here.
                                                      I hope FN continues reruns of MM, my fave regional Italian cooking show.

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                                                        gridder Oct 22, 2006 03:31 AM

                                                        You know, he does really have a sort of peculiarly haughty attitude. Can't explain it. I know plenty of Italian people and have never seen one of them come off as condescending. (Brash, yes, but not condescending.) I got that feeling so strongly the couple of times that I watched him that I haven't tried again.

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                                                          fara Oct 22, 2006 09:00 PM

                                                          for what it's worth, Mario is half Italian and grew up in Seattle. But regardless, people of every nationality can be condescending.

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                                                        gudeatz Sep 8, 2006 12:17 PM

                                                        It seems to me that the era of "CELEBERTY CHEFS", is ending. Over exposure and multi branding has probably run it's course.
                                                        Food Network can hire cheaper and dumber. Ham,the lucky sperm brothers, and Unwrapped smiley are where the bean counters are going.
                                                        WOR radio in NY gave the boot to Tyler Florence.
                                                        Was fun while it lasted...

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                                                          JudiAU Dec 3, 2006 05:43 PM

                                                          "the lucky sperm brothers" ROFL

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                                                          fascfoo Sep 8, 2006 05:38 PM

                                                          I didn't even know he had a new show out! Wow! That was quick.

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                                                            nicnaz Oct 16, 2006 12:29 AM

                                                            The problem here is Food Network. DiveFan nails it - lack of consistant scheduling for Mario, debuting his best work in later time slots and never giving his travel-oriented shows enough episodes. This network is slipping.
                                                            Batali - aside from if you like him or not - is the most talented chef (real chef, not a front for a kitchen full of preppers) and restauranteur (real restauranteur, not a trendy chef-for-the-day reality show hack) on television. Maybe it's HIM who has decided to do less tv...he's been consumed by his del Posto project for a few years now.
                                                            I watch less and less FN as time goes on. Maybe they're getting good ratings from Unwrapped and the such (I dislike Iron Chef, too, but I can see what some people enjoy about it), but a lot of their product is worthless for people interested in food and cooking. The Travel Channel has been doing some interesting stuff lately. Taste of America with the irritating but ultimately satisfying Mark DeCarlo is very watchable and takes some interesting side trips, mixing food with oddball travel.
                                                            But I digress. I do not wish an overload of Mario, a la Rachel Ray. But I would like to see a better avenue for him to "peddle his wares."

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                                                              HillJ Oct 18, 2006 12:52 AM

                                                              I did find Mario's shows boring, and I enjoy Italian food very much but you have to give the guy some credit...he owns nine restaurants, yes?

                                                              1. amkirkland Oct 18, 2006 03:02 AM

                                                                I'm amazed by the polarization in this conversation. Before I could cook at all I found him boring, but now he fascinates me. That's the only show where I feel like I'm getting something genuine in terms of recipes. Even Alton's recipes are shady sometimes, but you know that Mario is true to a dish's origin. Of course no one is required to like him, but my personal opinion is that its that need to be continuously entertained that leads to crap like sandra lee, and RR. Just like the difference between NPR and KISS FM, or public TV and and the WB.

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                                                                  Kater Oct 18, 2006 07:57 PM

                                                                  I don't think that your distinction works in this particular case. Quality programming may be less showy, and I think that 'hounds agree that substantive food television is best found on PBS. But Mario is awkward on the air and is not able to communicate his obvious passion for cooking over a video medium. He is awkward and fumbling and has not learned to connect with an audience.

                                                                  Really there is no particular reason to think that a good chef and restauranteur will make a good media cook. And media skills and genuine cooking skills and content are not mutually exclusive even if we do tend to find that networks run dumbed down cooking shows. That's just a different product for a different viewer.

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                                                                    amkirkland Oct 19, 2006 12:28 AM

                                                                    I understand your response, but I should say that i personaly don't find him awkward on the air, or at least no more awkward than any of the other chefs turned personalities. I find I learn a lot from his show. In the long run it's a cooking show, and obviously quite trite, but I get jittery at anything that represents a move away from substance.

                                                                2. pitu Oct 19, 2006 08:36 PM

                                                                  ummmmm
                                                                  I have a dumb question.

                                                                  I've been DVRing the FN Molto Marios that are on during the day, several times a week.
                                                                  I was under the impression that they were all reruns from several years ago.

                                                                  What is the current show that got cancelled?

                                                                  I find MM to be continually informative and excellent, even the repeated info about lipid di regione, and how when you add the salt effects the texture.
                                                                  It's head and shoulders above all the other cooking shows, and has refreshed and stepped up my Italian game...and yeah, I bought a couple of the books. He's excellent.

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                                                                    bitsubeats Oct 19, 2006 10:46 PM

                                                                    I believe they are talking about molto mario. It hasn't been renewed for a year or so (I think?). They are only showing reruns... I dvr molto mario as well and I love it.

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                                                                    Franca_A Oct 20, 2006 02:30 PM

                                                                    Would people here like more cooking shows, or more shows about food on the Food Network?

                                                                    Personally, I've only occasionally picked up good recipes from TV shows. What blows my mind is how people could follow recipes back in the days before VCRs (or of course, TiVo)!

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                                                                      amkirkland Oct 20, 2006 05:20 PM

                                                                      that sounds like another thread. Personally it doesn't matter, as long as there's good info about the food/techniques. Not just another thing to do with a chicken breast in 30 minutes or stories about ridiculous sugar sculptures.

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                                                                        Scrapironchef Oct 21, 2006 12:56 AM

                                                                        Or being able to go to the web and get the recipe formatted to fit an index card.

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                                                                        MikeG Oct 21, 2006 11:03 PM

                                                                        Food TV has, in general, been sucking rotten eggs loudly for the past 6-7 years. They started in on what amount almost to infomercials not all that long after the network started, and it's been downhill from there. I can't even tell you the last time I surfed it. Cooking shows used to be about cooking, with just enough personality/entertainment to keep the average person from falling asleep. Now, it's entertainment with just enough food/cooking so the network can claim it's still a "food network." Feh.

                                                                        1. billjriv Oct 21, 2006 11:13 PM

                                                                          Yah Food Network is still pretty good but they need to stick with there roots,alot of fu fu and jibber jabber makes them seem less wholesome or humble and people,over the longterm like humble.Tone it down Food Network or you might pop your head on a sharp corner.I notice I have been migrating to public broadcasting again for my cooking show fix(now theres some cooking shows to live up too)there non invasive and it shows,most of the shows have been there a long time too.Food Network needs more Juliet Child and Chef Tell and less bow down to middle class soccer mom fare.Malto Mario seemed fine to me,a little sloppy sometimes.

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                                                                            efrona Oct 22, 2006 01:50 PM

                                                                            mabye he's too busy on Iron Chef America? If it's still on? Or he's in Italy cooking with the locals.

                                                                            1. dpnpt Oct 30, 2006 11:59 PM

                                                                              I was hoping for MORE Mario, as in Molto Mario per favore! Now the only time to see his creativity and personality in action is on Iron Chef, which I LOVE. Any idea if he will have another show?

                                                                              1. pikawicca Oct 31, 2006 12:22 AM

                                                                                Regardless of his persona, I frequently make his recipes. They are always at least good, and sometimes sublime. The absolute best pasta dish I make is one of his recipes.

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                                                                                  Carb Lover Oct 31, 2006 01:53 AM

                                                                                  Of course I have to ask: which pasta recipe?!

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                                                                                    pikawicca Dec 4, 2006 12:03 PM

                                                                                    Sorry I didn't see your question earlier. The recipe is "Ragusa Shepherd's Pasta," which I saw Mario make on his show. I downloaded the recipe from the Foodnetwork web site.

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                                                                                      Carb Lover Dec 6, 2006 04:15 PM

                                                                                      Thanks, pikawicca. Will check it out...

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                                                                                  roberty Nov 17, 2006 06:23 PM

                                                                                  Can anyone help me identify the quirky music used on Molto Mario?

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                                                                                    obob96 Nov 17, 2006 09:47 PM

                                                                                    It's an old Neapolitan pop chestnut called "Tu vo' fa l'americano" by Renato Carosone. It was played as well in The Talented Mister Ripley and is a jokey song about a poor Italian trying to act American when he's really...

                                                                                    Here's a link to the song:
                                                                                    http://www.publiweb.it/midi/t/tu_voi_...

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                                                                                      roberty Nov 20, 2006 12:14 AM

                                                                                      Thanks for the wonderfully detailed reply! I followed the link and what I heard is not what I'm looking for, however. What I hear on Molto Mario is a bouncy, sax and accordion thing with a pronounced back-beat and a soprano sort of shrieking without lyrics. (Sort of Luis Prima).

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                                                                                      marlie202 Dec 3, 2006 02:48 PM

                                                                                      I tried to eat a Mario's restaurant Bolo I believe the name a few years back-and he would not let me nor my guest in--I am a diva-nice diva and could not understand why-had made a reservation and all-so I told him I am a better chef than he is anyway--???

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                                                                                        Dogstar Dec 3, 2006 05:01 PM

                                                                                        Mario does not "have" a restaurant named Bolo...

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                                                                                          marlie202 Dec 3, 2006 11:57 PM

                                                                                          his original small place in the West Village I am referring to-the name escapes me-but who cares

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                                                                                            Dogstar Dec 4, 2006 12:40 AM

                                                                                            That was Po... still operating with another staff. I went there once but had a very positive experience - sorry yours was so disagreeable.

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                                                                                              sweetie Dec 6, 2006 03:52 PM

                                                                                              maybe Babbo?

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                                                                                                marlie202 Dec 8, 2006 12:55 PM

                                                                                                thanks--it was Po

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                                                                                              The Engineer Dec 6, 2006 06:47 AM

                                                                                              Mario does not "have" a restaurant named Bolo...

                                                                                              but Bobby Flay does. Or did?

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                                                                                            itsonlyfood Dec 3, 2006 04:58 PM

                                                                                            I have heard the Food Network now demands a cut of the celebrity chef's outside income---from his restaurant(s), merchandise (if any), promotional revenue, etc. Their view is the FN exposure contributes to more income in those other areas. Obviously, some (all?) chefs will not agree with their logic and move on.

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                                                                                              gridder Dec 4, 2006 11:21 AM

                                                                                              I'm trying to think if this is possible. Could NBC have charged the Friends stars a cut of their outside gigs? It kind of makes the FN sound like the Mafia; seems unlikely to me.

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                                                                                              Stack8 Dec 3, 2006 05:26 PM

                                                                                              Is Tyler gone too. That Applebees thing you know. I saw that Guy's Big Bite will start in Jan. I'm just like some of the other hounds in this thread, I want to learn new things. Ham on the Street, what's that all about.

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                                                                                                roberty Dec 5, 2006 08:46 AM

                                                                                                I'm still hoping to learn about the source of the odd and quirky music used on Molto Mario. It features a soprano sort of shrieking without lyrics over a sax and accordion theme. I love it but cannot find it anywhere. Any help would be wonderful!
                                                                                                Thanks!

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                                                                                                  nicnaz Dec 5, 2006 12:47 PM

                                                                                                  Roberty: As with all of the Food Network programing, the music is crafted for the show. It does not exist as a cd cut somewhere. It does, however, bear a striking resemblence to Tu Va Fo Americano (it's on my iPod, I might have mispelled). It's on the soundtrack to The Talented Mr Ripley, as well as a cover song on one of Brian Setzer's swing cds.

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                                                                                                    roberty Dec 7, 2006 02:13 AM

                                                                                                    Thanks very much for your information, nicnaz! A previous post provided a link to multiple versions of the song. I am very musical, and none of the links resembled the Molto Mario music, but I will take this to heart and listen carefully again. Have you listened to the music with the out of control soprano? Is it the same tune?

                                                                                                    Again, thanks for your help!

                                                                                                    roberty

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                                                                                                      The Engineer Dec 11, 2006 05:29 AM

                                                                                                      Roberty,

                                                                                                      If you look very closely at the end credits, you should see the copyright info on the music. This might take a frame-by-frame advance with the pause button. If there is no such info in the credits, then its probably an original composition.

                                                                                                      Sometimes "original compositions" sound very much like existing tunes...

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                                                                                                    FAL Dec 6, 2006 04:13 PM

                                                                                                    It not a good time at the food network. They are playing the ratings game. I think Mario is great. Simple fast and fresh. i been watching him since the beginnig. His starter rest PO's in NYC is still my fav. You still can't walk in there and get a table. We all forget that Mario is a real pro and did many years behind the stove here and in Italy. It real sad that his show is canceled. He really showed you what they are eating in ITaly . Not just red sauce.

                                                                                                    1. Dio di Romanese Dec 6, 2006 04:14 PM

                                                                                                      in my opinion the top FN chefs are Batali and Tyler Florence

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                                                                                                        KTinNYC Dec 6, 2006 05:00 PM

                                                                                                        Tyler is a third rate chef at best. I ate at Cafeteria when he worked there and it was nothing special.

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                                                                                                          thegolferbitch Dec 8, 2006 02:29 PM

                                                                                                          But you know what, Batali isn't "cute" enough. I know you don't give a rat's keister, Dio, but for some reason, now's the time for the ascendence of folks like Tyler, Rachel Ray, etc. I don't think even Julia would make it on the FN's, etc, of today.

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                                                                                                          ciaogina Dec 7, 2006 01:33 PM

                                                                                                          Batali being cancelled is no surprise. He actually understands food and has something to share besides senseless patter and non-cooking. I guess they need to make room for that new silly travel road show with Giadana.

                                                                                                          And really, has no one this thread read Heat. You <will> gain an insight into Batali. Ask for it for Christmas!

                                                                                                          :-)

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                                                                                                            MikeLM Dec 11, 2006 01:14 AM

                                                                                                            Well, it does seem that FoodTV is descending from instruction to travelogs, celeberity foodishness like Al Roker, food Circus Maximus like the sugar and cake sculpture competitions, and the never-never-land Iron Chef contests with ingredients, staff assistants, and industrial cooking equipment that have absolutely nothing to do with everyday cooks and food enthusiasts.

                                                                                                            That said, I like Alton Brown, Emeril - who does actually cook some things - and Michael Chiarello who shows how to put together some pretty good stuff as a basis for his parties.

                                                                                                            Other than these, I don't watch that much anymore.

                                                                                                            There's some good cooking stuff on PBS's "Create" channel, if your cable provider offers it, and Michael Chiaraello shows up on the Fine Living channel as well.

                                                                                                            I miss Julia

                                                                                                            Mike

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                                                                                                              Claudette Dec 12, 2006 10:25 PM

                                                                                                              After all these episodes of American Iron Chef, Mario stands out as the best chef of all. He just talks fast and authoritatively - but can have a pretty good sense of humor, as evidenced by Mario Eats Italy. I miss that series - bring it back!

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                                                                                                                hokiefan Dec 13, 2006 02:31 AM

                                                                                                                Iron Chef America is a weak replica of a great show. The original concept had original cuisuine and exotic rare expensive ingredients. This show is a show case for personalities.

                                                                                                                FN is about personalities now. It like MTV has lost it's way. I will keep watching public telivision and shows in off times in crap timeslots on FN. I am waiting for FN2 when cooking can get back on top. Long live Great Chefs! Learned more on one of that show than a years of rachel or paula.

                                                                                                              2. bkhuna Dec 13, 2006 03:06 AM

                                                                                                                I like Mario for the same reasons I like Alton Brown. Hell, anyone can follow a recipe, but these guys TEACH about the food. I will miss seeing Molto Mario because I will miss LEARNING about the culture and cuisine of Italy.

                                                                                                                I guess I'm one of those kinds of people that finds learning to be entertaining.

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