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  <id>321799</id>
  <title>San Fran-style oatcakes?</title>
  <published_at>Tue Aug 29 23:22:06 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>19</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>31</id>
    <name>Home Cooking</name>
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        <id>1841828</id>
        <content>This may be a stretch, but...a friend of mine is completely in thrall to those dense, hockey-puck-like oatcakes that you find sold at hippie cafes all over the Bay Area. These are thick, pale, bricklike wodges, nothing like a cracker-ish Scottish oatcake. They seem like they're compacted rather than baked--if you know what I'm talking about, does anyone have any idea how she might make her own at home?</content>
        <published_at>Tue Aug 29 23:22:06 -0700 2006</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>25849</id>
          <name>dixieday2</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1842003</id>
      <content>Hmmm, have lived here for almost 10 years and have never seen one of those.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 00:58:35 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10925</id>
        <name>rtmonty</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1842760</id>
      <content>They sound like the oatmeal scone I had from Starbucks here in Toronto.  It was dense and crumbly.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 14:11:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11858</id>
        <name>mrsleny</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1843004</id>
      <content>Are you sure they're oat, not rice? I have a friend who eats hockey-puck cakes--about 3 inches diameter, maybe 3/4 inch thick, and dry as the Sahara--and they're made from rice.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 15:39:57 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17327</id>
        <name>rootlesscosmo</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1843133</id>
      <content>I think I know exactly what you are talking about.  They look like small hockey pucks and do not look appetizing at all.  My friend's father eats them and once during a soccer match, I was so desperately hungry, I ate one.  I was actually surprised that they tasted somewhat decent (or it might have been the hunger seasoning) and I have to admit, I had great energy for the second half.  Anyway, I had never seen them before, so I asked about them, and he said they are Australian.  So . . . maybe try to google Australian Oatcake recipes?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 16:21:23 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20134</id>
        <name>grubn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1958480</id>
      <content>I know what you're talking about. I used to eat these all the time. They're actually quite good if you can get past the fact that they look like pale hockey pucks. I buy them under the brand 'California Suncakes' 

Here's the ingredients from an apricot one:
oats, apricots, brown rice syrup, brown rice flour, soy protein concentrate, soy flour, rice bran, natural fruit juice, dried plums, orange peel, almond extract.

My. Doesn't that look delicious? :)

Here's a recipe that may not exactly match but looks like it can probably be tweaked massively to resemble an suncake: http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=6271.0</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 19 21:17:55 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11866</id>
        <name>muimi07</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1959414</id>
      <content>They would probably be much tastier if the list went something like:

oats, BUTTER, apricots, brown rice syrup, brown rice flour, soy protein concentrate, soy flour, rice bran, natural fruit juice, dried plums, orange peel, almond extract.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 20 04:15:24 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1958480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10099</id>
        <name>JudiAU</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1960364</id>
      <content>The original's ingredients were more like oats, butter, sugar, natural flavorings. No weird health-food-store stuff.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 20 16:43:28 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1959414</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11369</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1958529</id>
      <content>I've lived in central SF many years and have never seen any oatcakes. What I do see at coffee shops with small pastry cases are scones. Could it be scones that you want?</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 19 21:37:16 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23824</id>
        <name>niki rothman</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1958954</id>
      <content>I'm pretty sure I saw them at a Marin 7/ll a couple of years ago -- maybe they still carry them?</content>
      <published_at>Thu Oct 19 23:59:22 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10877</id>
        <name>Sarah</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3960676</id>
      <content>They do! At least the one in Mill Valley does, I've seen them there recently.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 15 14:02:54 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>1958954</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>74556</id>
        <name>manraysky</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1959084</id>
      <content>They've been around since the 80s. They're usually in a big glass jar near the register at health food stores, produce shops, corner markets. They're sort of the vegan version of Slim Jims.

My wife used to work with the woman who invented them. Hers were delicous, rich, buttery. She was driven out of business by an imitator who came up with a low-fat, fruit-juice-sweetened, vegan alternative, originally called A Better Oatcake, now sold as California Suncakes.

http://www.suncakes.com</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 20 01:05:23 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11369</id>
        <name>Robert Lauriston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1959316</id>
      <content>I've seen these at Whole Foods.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 20 03:13:46 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1959084</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26657</id>
        <name>bijoux16</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2671953</id>
      <content>I LOVE these!  They have them up here in Portland at Coffee People.  I've had the suncakes as well, but Coffee People have a better one.

Just a note to the naysayers... these are great. They are dense, slightly sweet, my favorite has apricot bits, oats, and they taste a bit milky as well. Not a scone, which is not nearly as dense. Not a ricecake as that is lightweight.

I have also been looking for a recipe for these. I've tried a recipe off Epicurious, but it was definitely a Scottish oatcake.  Too crispy and thin. I think it could probably be modified to be more like these American versions, but I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to venture too far into that realm.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 18 17:39:00 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>106285</id>
        <name>krees123</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2671962</id>
      <content>Actually, I just found this:
http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=Low-fat%20apricot%20oat%20cakes

Sounds promising...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 18 17:43:06 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>106285</id>
        <name>krees123</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3960246</id>
      <content>I actually tried this recipe (it's clearer here:
http://www.bigoven.com/107592-Low-Fat-Apricot-Oat-Cakes-recipe.html  )

the second batch is in the oven now--the first batch, warm out of the oven, tastes great! I will definitely make these over and over again. Yum!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 15 11:37:59 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>2671962</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>39328</id>
        <name>IndyGirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3277611</id>
      <content>They're definately worth a try.  May not look very appetizing but they are actually quite good and healthy.  You can find homemade ones at Cafe Abir on Divisadero. Enjoy!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 09 10:52:43 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>156009</id>
        <name>nbperrone</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3938773</id>
      <content>I know exactly.  I used to get them when I lived i San Francisco...They sell them at WHOLE FOODS.  I'd like a recipe.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 07 13:16:19 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>205661</id>
        <name>PHOTOGRL</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3938778</id>
      <content>For a recipe, please post on our home cooking board.

Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 07 13:17:43 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3938773</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>2</id>
        <name>The Chowhound Team</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4008945</id>
      <content>You might be talking about Ultimate Cookie's Fat-free oatcakes.
http://www.ultimatecookie.com/oatcakes.html
The sell them at $20 for a dozen, you can stop by as a walk-in at their bakery on folsom and 12th SF or call them. I am obsessed with them too :) I have no idea how to make fat-free anything, though, unfortunately :(</content>
      <published_at>Thu Sep 04 13:15:06 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>1841828</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>21190</id>
        <name>adelgadorey</name>
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