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Best quiet adult restaurant in Santa Monica for first date

Was thinking One Pico versus Ocean and Vine in the Loews(not many reviews) versus Oceanfront versus The Lobster (probably noisier). Haven't been to One Pico in a while. Is it good these days? Nothing too "sceney." Any other ideas welcome. The other person is a foodie who has recently moved from years of living in San Francisco so the food is very important. Capo would be too expensive, by the way IMO.

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  1. The ones you mentioned are less expensive than Capo but not by much. The food at Ocean & Vine is great but service is sometimes off; however, sitting by the firepits (inside or out) has its charms. Oceanfront has a new chef that the L.A. Times likes a lot but I have not yet been. One Pico is a solid but uninspiring choice. The Lobster is gorgeous but too crowded and noisy and I am not a fan of much of the food there. Have you considered Jiraffe or Josie?

    1. You should try JiRaffe. Although it's more of a neighborhood joint, the food is outstanding. I love the foie gras, and they prepare great fish specials.

      What about Josie? Gets a little busy, though.

      One Pico I love as well. Maybe see how your night is going and head over for a drink after din?

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      1. re: Frank_Santa_Monica

        JiRaffe is a great suggestion. We went to One Pico for dinner about a month ago--can't recommend it for dinner (breakfast-yes!).

        1. re: Funwithfood

          i love jiraffe but it is very noisy so i rarely go there

      2. When I lived in Santa Monica 8 years ago, I used to go to an Italian restaurant that was family-owned on Santa Monica Blvd. between 20th & 26th streets...I'm thinking it's kind of around 23rd street...does anyone know the name? I think it's still there, and it was a great place to have good food and hear yourself talk because it never really got that crowded. Food and wine was good quality...and while not one of the L.A. trendy places to go...a good first date place that's off the beaten path...

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        1. re: cimero

          Is it called Bistro of Santa Monica or Santa Monica Bistro, something like that? On the north side of the street, near St. John's?

          1. re: PaulF

            Santa Monica Bistro- on Santa Monica and 23rd just east of St. Johns.

            very good Italian, and I think they have a live piano player on the weekends. A great Date choice!

            But I LOVE JiRaffe, and its quiet enough if you ask to sit upstairs....

            1. re: msmd310

              That's it, Santa Monica Bistro....you can hear yourself talk to your date!

        2. agree with above poster. the restaurants you mentioned are expensive price wise.

          how about joe's in venice?

          violet in santa monica?

          wilson's in culver city?

          if you want food to be your ice breaker, i'd recommend these.

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          1. re: revets2

            I would second the Joe's recommendation. It's quiet enough to have a civil conversation, but not so quiet that you fall asleep. The food is very good and the service tends to be professional.

          2. Ditto on Jiraffe--it meets all your criteria. And ditto on asking to sit upstairs--it's much quieter and more intimate. Josie is another good choice, but Jiraffe is a little less expensive, and a little less formal (might feel more comfortable for a first date). Neither place is "sceney." I am not a huge fan of Violet or Joe's, which others suggested.