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dongstadden Aug 23, 2006 04:10 AM

Curious to see what other people here think.

I nominate Filiberto's.

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    allison325 RE: dongstadden Jun 15, 2007 04:07 PM

    I love Fili-B's, really I do. In fact, I eat there several times a week lol... however, after spending some time in Tucson, I have to say that there is a chain there called Losbetos that puts Filiberto's to shame. But in the Phoenix area, Filiberto's wins hands-down!

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      AZBconcierge RE: allison325 Jun 15, 2007 04:17 PM

      Eriberto's on Osborn and 7th avenue. I also love their carne asada quesadilla

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        Grey RE: AZBconcierge Jun 16, 2007 08:27 AM

        I'll give a nod to Eriberto's. I work nearby, and frequently drop by for lunch. I'm always down for a couple of their (very large) carne asada tacos.

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        nyomi RE: allison325 Jun 15, 2007 04:44 PM

        Los betos also has stores up here in Phoenix. I know of one on Hayden just north of Thomas. I agree with the loving Filiberto's. So far my biggest problem with them is that the quality differs so far from store to store. For example, I have not been satisfied with anything I've gotten at the Filibertos on Southern west of Dobson.

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          ccl1111 RE: nyomi Jun 15, 2007 06:04 PM

          we used to hit that los betos on hayden north of thomas all the time. over time the quality went way downhill. chunks of fat and very little meat in the green chile plate (several times). carnitas not very appetizing. really turned us off.

          since then, that niche has been filled for us by fiesta burrito on 74th street & mcdowell. have a drive through & the quality of the food has been regularly great. we were pretty bummed out on hayden/thomas los betos' decline as it's quite close. we now choose to make the drive to fiesta.

          did note there is a filiberto's on macdonald & granite reef and have wanted to try that ever since reading positive feedback here.

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            johnseberg RE: ccl1111 Jun 15, 2007 09:18 PM

            I think you're thinking of Los Favoritos, 8489 E Mcdonald Dr, Scottsdale AZ. My last visit to that location was not very good. I believe I had a chorizo breakfast burrito, and it was too dry for my taste.

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              ccl1111 RE: johnseberg Jun 18, 2007 12:40 AM

              i think you're right. thanks for the heads up! i'll search out another.

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            phoenixfoodie RE: nyomi Oct 25, 2007 11:47 AM

            I agree with you about Fiesta Burrito on McDowell Road and 74th Street. It is FABULOUS! Very fresh, inexpensive, and delish!!!

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              ValleyFever RE: phoenixfoodie Oct 25, 2007 06:27 PM

              filibertos on Indian school and 32nd st-esque never fails, but Armando's on 40th and Thomas has killer carne asada (tacos, burritos, fries).

              Super Burrito on Scottsdale Rd is decent too, but I love their choizo.

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                azhotdish RE: ValleyFever Oct 29, 2007 09:46 AM

                I had a carne asada burrito from Armando's yesterday and was pretty disappointed with it - the meat was just ok, the guacamole was pretty bad and the pico de gallo had far too much onion (perhaps it had been sitting too long). Not sure what they used to be like, but I don't think I'd go back.

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                  ValleyFever RE: azhotdish Oct 29, 2007 11:22 PM

                  I believe it, Any of those taquerias can be hit or miss, and if the guac is bad, you might as well throw the whole thing away.

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          desertsun RE: dongstadden Oct 25, 2007 09:35 PM

          There's a Filiberto's in Tucson. So with Los Betos in PHX in Filiberto's in TUS, you'd think we could get a definitive answer on which is the best of those two? I've got to try Filiberto's (on East 22nd in TUS). I havn't had the regular carne asada burritos at Los Betos, but I have had their "California Burrito" which has fries and carne asada in it. It was ok, but I still miss the California burritos from Santana's in Yucca Valley & 29 Palms in CA. I love the carne asada caramelos at El Guero Canelo; suppose I should go for a field trip and try their burritos and report back, eh? I LOVE having an excuse to eat carne asada burritos!

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            FatSpatula RE: dongstadden Oct 29, 2007 09:03 AM

            The very best carne asada burro (not burrito) is indeed in Tucson. It's called El Guerro Canelo, it's on 12th st. in south tucson and with out a doubt it is the best. I have tried them all too, Losbetos, Filibertos, Nico's, El Gorrion, La Indita and a litany of others and El Guerro is the best. It will ruin you for carne asada. They opened another one up near Grant and Oracle not too long ago too, but if it's your first time, go to the original.

            1. winedubar RE: dongstadden Oct 29, 2007 09:25 AM

              i can't believe folks are waxing rhapsodic over filibertos. personally? i'd rather eat jack in the box than suffer one of those atrocities. EWWW

              the best carne asada burro's come from 3 spots - carolina's, rito's, or phoenix ranch market. much tastier, much fresher, better ingredients and much cleaner!!!!!!!!!! have you read some of the inspections for the filiberto's chain? come on now!!!

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                ginael RE: winedubar Sep 24, 2008 10:26 PM

                Thank you, winedubar, for expressing my surprise about the accolades for Filibertos. I mean really, Chowhounders, there have to be more options for quality carne asada; this is Phoenix for crying out loud! Haven' t tried the carne asada at Carolinas, am guessing it is pretty tasty considering everything else there is tasty.

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                  johnseberg RE: ginael Sep 25, 2008 05:21 AM

                  I go to Carolina's about once a week, and I don't know if carne asada is on the menu.

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                    luegar RE: johnseberg Oct 3, 2008 07:15 AM

                    It is not on the menu. Too bad cause it would pair up great with those amazing tortillas.

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                sausagefinger RE: dongstadden Nov 11, 2007 03:01 AM

                Fili and Betos are both good. I love Betos pollo asado and Filiberto's chorizo.

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                  rdhargro RE: dongstadden Nov 11, 2007 04:01 PM

                  All of the Bertos and Betos can be hit and miss. I too long for the days of California Style carne asada burritos from Ramonas, Dianas, and Panchos. Never the less Salsitas or La Salsa I forget what it is called on the corner of Main and Country Club in Mesa is excellent. I order the carne asada burrito with rice, beans, cheese, and the deep fried onions and chiles they have. Price is great andit is right around the corner from my office. Carolinas is good but I need to oder two as they are small.

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                    vexis26 RE: dongstadden Aug 7, 2008 11:35 AM

                    Okay, so I heard way back that all of those eribertos and others were jsut filibertos that changed their name because they failed so many food inspections.... :p ew. SoI have to say that I am a burrito connoisseur and I have tried a lot but I think that the best in AZ has got to be Either Güero Canelo's or BK's which i have never been to but I've heard from many people that it's way better than even Güero's. The one on grant is really nice too. It's a very cool looking place that is very clean while still retaining that street taco stand feel! Nico's tacos is awful and you'd probably be better not eating for a meal than eating there.

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                      kenazcc RE: dongstadden Aug 8, 2008 02:40 PM

                      lots of locals in the Phoenix area would go with Carolina's [several locations] - lines out the door just for the tortillas here -- and the stuffings - carne asada, chicken, you name it - are popular favorites too. Regular "best of" ratings from the local papers [folks voting] - for what that's worth. I never eat burrotos - but I do go here for great guacamole, and the machacha tacos are pretty good.

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                        luegar RE: dongstadden Sep 2, 2008 10:04 AM

                        Well, I have a different opinion than most people here. I have to admit Fili's is OK... the only problem I have with Fili's and most of the other "bertos" clones is that the meat is cooked on a griddle and mostly cooked by the vapor it generates......not really "asada". I'm originally from Hermosillo, Sonora Mexico.....the Mecca of carne asada. I've looked long and hard in Phoenix to satisfy my carne asada tacos cravings and I can tell you this much........nothing like it. On the other hand I can suggest the two best places I've found......believe me I've tried tons of them.

                        Here are the two places:

                        Asadero El Toro: just across the street from the Arizona State Fair Grounds on Mc Dowell, I highly reccomend ordering the carne asada burro, tell the server to skip the beans and rice (I hate fillers). You may also want to order the carne asada in tacos or even a quesadilla with carne....really good. As with any down and dirty restaurants some days are better than others. Having said this, I have never disliked the food, just think some days its a bit better.

                        Now, if you don't mind hitting some DIVEs in order to get good food, here's a little secret joint.
                        If you head West on Van Buren from I-17, just past 27ave (there's a run down Food City on the SW corner), about 100-150 yards on your left side (South) you will see a run down little food cart with a few tables set in front under some tarps. This is a GREAT place for tacos. I highly reccomend their "vampiros" (vampires), its a corn tostada with a bit of refried beans on top and finely chopped carne asada, a bit of cabbage and tomato salsa on top. This my friends is the best thing I've found in Phoenix. If you don't mind the bad surroundings and the horrible service in order to get really good food, you will love this place. Highly reccomend accompanying your vampiros with a Mexica Coke.

                        Let me know your thoughts when you try them.....if you like Fili's you are going to just LOVE these two places.

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                          minathebrat RE: luegar Sep 19, 2008 09:24 AM

                          Hey:) Thanks for the heads up. It amazes me sometimes how it's the hole-in-the-wall places that produce the best gems.

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                            tastyjon RE: luegar Sep 22, 2008 10:13 PM

                            There's a bare bones Mexican eatery around 23rd St. & McDowell which I've passed at night and noticed they are sometimes working a big grill on the side of the building, which can be seen from the street, especially when going eastbound. I've been wanting to stop in but have always been on the way to something else.

                            I saw them firing up the grill this past Saturday at dusk, but had perishable groceries from Ranch, so I didn't stop in. I did, however, drive by tonight (Monday) with intent, but there was no action outside. Maybe it's just a weekend thing?

                            They are a few blocks west of the Creighton school, on the north side of the street. It's an anonymous building and the outdoor scene looks to be a few bare bone tables and a big grill.

                            I thought I'd pass it along because I can't imagine a Mexican joint with a BBQ not grilling beef. Has anyone been?

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                              hohokam RE: tastyjon Sep 23, 2008 04:21 AM

                              Could be La Barquita. I've eaten there a few times, but I've never noticed the grill or ordered carne asada there.

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                                tastyjon RE: hohokam Sep 28, 2008 07:49 PM

                                It's right across from Auto Zone and has a sign that reads... fish, meat, tacos (in Spanish). I drove by again, but after eating at AET (above). They were grilling on Sunday. We'll have to try it next weekend.

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                                  hohokam RE: tastyjon Sep 28, 2008 10:59 PM

                                  Ah. So, it's east of 24th rather than west. I think I know the spot you're talking about--my memory matches your previous description. Haven't ever stopped off there.

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                                    hohokam RE: tastyjon Sep 29, 2008 08:42 PM

                                    I dropped by that place for a late lunch today. It's basically a small restaurant (Taqueria Sinaloa) attached to a small grocery store (Pescaderia Sinaloa).

                                    The restaurant has a smallish menu of tortas, tacos, and burritos along with several seafood dishes and combo plates. I had a little trouble figuring out where and how to place my order, but I think during a peak time, this would have been made clearer by where people were queuing up.

                                    I ordered 3 tacos (asada, carnitas, cabeza: $1.00 each) and an horchata ($1.75). The tacos came out unadorned, but the restaurant has a pretty well-stocked "condiment" bar with 5 different salsas (2 red, 2 green, and a chunky reddish-greenish roasted chile sauce), a couple of different escabeche-ish options (sliced white onion with sliced jalapenos; pickled jalapenos with carrots and some onion), finely diced purple onion, finely diced white onion with chopped cilantro, halved Mexican limes, radishes, and chopped cucumbers. I really enjoyed the cabeza, but the asada had the taste of stale beef fat. The carnitas, while not the best I've ever had, were pretty good. I have the feeling the grill only gets fired up in the evenings, so I guess if one wants to get an accurate reading on the asada, a dinnertime visit would be in order.

                                    The store has a few shelves of canned goods, dry goods, and sundries; a very small produce case; a decent selection of flour tortillas (not so great selection of corn); and a meat and fish counter. Their meat section was completely empty on my visit, but they did have some fish and shellfish on hand.

                                    I don't know that I would consider it to be a dining destination for me, given that there are comparable options closer to me, but I wouldn't hesitate to eat there if I was in the neighborhood.

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                                    Pescaderia Sinaloa
                                    2622 E Mcdowell Rd, Phoenix, AZ

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                                tastyjon RE: luegar Sep 28, 2008 07:40 PM

                                Thanks for the recs. I stopped by Asadero El Toro today (Sunday) and it's defintely a bare bones divey place, but tasty. Looks like it was an old Wendy's. I wasn't super hungry, so instead of a big burrito with beans/rice, I went with a single Asada taco and also a chicken one. And that's pretty much what you get... a palm size flour or corn tortilla piled with meat. There's a condiment bar should you want to jazz things up.

                                The Asada was definitely a lot different than most places.. The grilling versus griddle was evident. It also seems they use a more tender cut of beef... almost like a tenderloin. No fat or chewiness. It's more thickly sliced as well, not miced like most places. For taco fans, about twice the meat as Nopalito, but it's also $1.80 a taco versus a $1.00. I say that only to compare portions - both places have distinct fare.

                                The chicken was nice as well. It didn't seem grilled - very moist. More like it was pulled out of a stewed simmer.

                                I'll revisit and try a few more things for sure.

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                                Astrobob RE: dongstadden Sep 24, 2008 08:55 PM

                                There's a Los Betos on University and Greenfield that makes some pretty good carne asada burritos. Don't know if its related to the one in Tucson, but they are tasty. In fact my wife ate there enough and ordered it special that when she pulled up to the drive in they knew it was the "Rose" special.

                                1. yamalam RE: dongstadden Sep 26, 2008 11:45 AM

                                  Am sticking my neck out here, but I used to be addicted to the version at Burger Factory on 7th Ave & Osborne when I worked nearby. It's not authentic, and they cook the meat on a griddle, but they do it fresh to order and then chop it so it's not drying out under a heatlamp like at FiliB's. Am craving one now, mmm.

                                  1. ipsedixit RE: dongstadden Sep 29, 2008 11:39 AM

                                    I sort of like the carne asada burrito at La Tolteca. You can get also get it deep-fried.

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                                      ibsulon RE: dongstadden Sep 29, 2008 10:16 PM

                                      If Fil or Los Betos is the answer, the question isn't about the best *anything*.

                                      I've been a big fan of this new taco shop in Tucson called Maico off of 22nd and Park - really good California burros (though I think they need a little guacamole - I order extra for the burro), as well as good quality ingredients on everything I've tried there. I'll get a carne asada burro next time and put up a review.

                                      I can attest to their carne asada - just not their burro.

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                                        luegar RE: ibsulon Oct 3, 2008 07:31 AM

                                        ibsulon, if you live in Tucson you definetely need to try tacos "El Canelo". They are very famous among Hermosillo (the birthplace of good carne asada) people residing in Tucson. I have never tried them myself but I know a lot of fellow people from Hermosillo who swear by them.

                                        The trick to a good carne asada taco is that the asada has to go directly from the grill to the tortilla to your mouth in less than 2-3 minutes. In order for this to be feasible you have to have customers constantly arriving. The way the good taquerias work in Hermosillo, they usually open around 7PM but have no real customers till around 9:30PM-1:00AM. Customers are constantly stopping by so the "taquero" can always have beef in the grill knowing it will sell. Here in Phoenix there is no such patronage so all of the taquerias here have to grill or griddle their beef ahead of time an keep it in a pot. This is why it can never compare to the real thing.

                                        I don't know if anyone here has ever gone to Hermosillo (5 hour drive from Phoenix) but they can attest to this.

                                        If you ever go to Hermosillo there are 3 rules to having the best tacos of your life. 1) Try to eat in a street stand vs a restaurant, this will reduce the amount of time between the beef being taking out of the grill till when you take your first bite. 2) and most importantly look for places with customers, the more the better, the wait won't be that long anyway. 3) order your tacos one at a time and resist the urge to cover them in toppings, the beef down there is so good that contraire to what a lot of people think, it is not only not marinated but they only add salt to it. Eating a fresh taco with not toppings at all is a taste of heaven. I personally eat my last one this way as a type of dessert.

                                        One last watch out, do not eat near truck stops. There are tons of taquerias near truck stops and they all suck. Do not do this. If you are in doubt where to eat, ask anyone on the street driving a decent late model car, they'll be happy to tell you. By the way, the late model car thing comes into play because their suggestion won't be influenced by budget. Also don't go to the other extreme and ask a guy driving too nice of a car. His suggestion will probably be a restaurant or influenced by neighborhood. Bad advice as well.

                                        Hope this helps.

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                                          palmtree38 RE: luegar Jun 25, 2009 02:13 PM

                                          I just love this site. Our trip to San Diego this year a foodie on here gave us some great suggestions for fish tacos and mexican. Trailer #3 in a parking lot of a liqour store. So here I plan a trip to Arizona. Staying in Scottsdale with a rental car so a trip to some good tacos or these burritos off the beaten path for hidden gems would be fantastic. Any good happy hour mexican restaurants as well in old town as we could walk and not worry about the car so we can enjoy some cerveza por favor and margaritas.

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                                            JK Grence the Cosmic Jester RE: palmtree38 Jun 29, 2009 05:02 PM

                                            There isn't really good Mexican to be had in Old Town. Los Olivos is my favorite of the ones in the area, but they are all pedestrian at best. By all means avoid Old Town Tortilla Factory. They have been resting on their laurels for decades. They're good for margaritas on their patio, and that's about it.

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                                              palmtree38 RE: JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Jun 29, 2009 07:15 PM

                                              Really? I would of thought there would be a few. We will be in north scotsdale a few nights as well. and Sedona which we are trying out Cafe Elote..

                                              Even on the way to Sedona from Phoenix aiport a stop that is a must !

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                                                hohokam RE: palmtree38 Jun 29, 2009 07:52 PM

                                                Near-ish the airport is one branch of Phoenix Ranch Market. I'd recommend setting aside an hour or so for wandering the aisles of the supermarket and for enjoying a hearty lunch in the food court at the west end of the store.

                                                Other noteworthy down home options not far from the airport are La Tolteca, La Barquita, and El Nopalito (in ascending order of grittiness).

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                                                Phoenix Ranch Market III
                                                1602 E Roosevelt St, Phoenix, AZ 85006

                                                La Tolteca
                                                1205 E Van Buren St, Phoenix, AZ 85006

                                                El Nopalito
                                                2831 N 24th St, Phoenix, AZ 85008

                                                La Barquita Restaurant
                                                2334 E McDowell Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85006

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                                                  MesaChow RE: hohokam Jun 29, 2009 08:27 PM

                                                  "ascending order of grittiness" - hilarious! Describes the list to perfection! I recommend the chicken mole at El Nopalito.

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                                                    hungryinaz RE: MesaChow Jul 2, 2009 12:29 PM

                                                    I second El Nopalito - love the chips/sauce as well as the shrimp tacos. I've had them four times in the last year and every time is as good as ever. Generous portion of small shrimp sauteed in tomato and onion with sour cream sauce and avocado slices! Delicious!

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                                        Poerz RE: dongstadden Jun 25, 2009 04:26 PM

                                        Boy, this string really has legs; all the way back to September. I am not at all a Fili's or Los Betos, Etc. fan. Carolinas is great and so is Phoenix Ranch Market but the two best carne asada places are Los Taquitos on Elliot in Ahwautukee (just on the food channel Diners, Drive Inns and Dives) and America's Taco Shop on 7th street just north of McDowell. Both places are small and family operated and it shows. I've had carne asada at America's (name of the owner) as tacos, burritos and vampiros. All great.

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                                          ginael RE: Poerz Jun 25, 2009 05:11 PM

                                          The only time I miss eating meat is when I read about delicious carne asada burritos. I'm originally from South Tempe and never even heard of Los Taquitos. I'll have to swing by and tempt my feeble vegetarian palatte! Thanks for the recommendation, Poerz.

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                                            palmtree38 RE: ginael Jun 29, 2009 01:21 PM

                                            Anyone recently tried some good Carne Asade's??????

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                                              rojoguapo RE: palmtree38 Jun 30, 2009 09:34 AM

                                              I have to agree with Poerz. We live in Arcadia but recently made the drive down to Los Taquitos in the Tukee. Very Legit Carne Asada. And I love America's, though it is a little pricey and their salsa is not up to par with the meat. Tortas el Guero (with a new location on the 4100 block of E. Thomas!) also makes some great Carne (thought the Pastor is the real draw).

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                                                azhotdish RE: rojoguapo Jun 30, 2009 09:38 AM

                                                do you know the address for the new location? this is news to me.

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                                                I found it, 4121 E THOMAS RD. this is great news.

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                                            drobe30 RE: Poerz Jul 1, 2009 04:17 PM

                                            RIght on the money with America's. Gallo Blanco has the best in town but they don't offer burritos. America's is close behind and their burrito is awesome.

                                          3. jillita RE: dongstadden Jul 2, 2009 02:06 PM

                                            Hands down by far the best carne asada burrito I ever had is out of a truck that calls itself La Parilla, in Tucson. It visits the construction sites in SE Tucson (Irvington/Houghton area). It's operated by a husband and wife team. The tortillas are handmade, and the senora informs me her recipe comes from home (Acapulco). It's dry rubbed and grilled meat accompanied by perfect saffron rice, cabbage, pico de gallo, cilantro, fresh salted avocado wedges, fresh squeezed lime, with red and green salsa and often served with a sauteed roasted jalapeno and/or carmelized onions. They're overstuffed and perfect. It's some of the best Mexican I have had in Tucson. Better even than the great El Guerro Canelo.

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                                              palmtree38 RE: jillita Jul 6, 2009 07:51 AM

                                              How far is Tucson ? We will be making a drive from Sedona to Phonex to scotsdale is it on route at all? Would be willing to go off route a little to try this out. Sounds AMAZING!

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                                                ajs228 RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 08:30 AM

                                                It's only about 125 miles out of your way. Just keep heading south. If you hit Mexico, you went too far. :-)
                                                That burrito actually does sound amazing.

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                                                  palmtree38 RE: ajs228 Jul 6, 2009 08:36 AM

                                                  IT sure does! That sounds lilttle too far just for lunch so maybe we will pass on that. We will be flying into phoenix and taking a cab to the rental car service in scottsdale and then heading to Sedona. This is when we will want to stop for our first lunch in Arizona. Would this Los Taquitos on Elliot be a good choice from above recommendations and not out of the way? '

                                                  What exactly is a Carne Asades? :O)

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                                                    hohokam RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 09:04 AM

                                                    I'm confused about your itinerary. Are you proposing to take a cab from the airport to your lunch destination (with your luggage in tow) and then taking a cab from your lunch destination to the rental car pick-up location in Scottsdale?

                                                    Or are you thinking of grabbing lunch after you pick up your rental car?

                                                    Either way, Los Taquitos on Elliot Rd is going to be out of your way, in that it's about 10 or 12 miles south of the airport, which is south and west of Scottsdale, which is, in turn, many many miles south of Sedona.

                                                    My guess (without having more specific info on your itinerary) is that someplace in central or north Phoenix would be more likely to be on your route. You may want to consult a map to decide what will make the most sense, given your travel plans.

                                                    On to the next question...

                                                    In short, carne asada, is thinly cut, grilled steak (usually skirt steak or flank steak) that has been marinated or simply seasoned with salt, pepper, and lime juice, though I've heard some say that anything beyond salt and pepper is "inauthentic. Usually the steak is cut into thin strips or chunks and served with or inside tortillas.

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                                                  dongstadden RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 08:38 AM

                                                  tucson is not really on the way from sedona to phoenix/scottsdale. but if you check this whole thread, you should be able to find a good burrito without leaving the phoenix metro area.

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                                                  dongstadden RE: jillita Jul 6, 2009 08:35 AM

                                                  funny that you mention guero de canelo because we were just in tucson went to the segundo location on oracle last friday. i got the medium carne asada burrito with beans and cabbage, except they forgot the cabbage. i would have to say it is good, but not great. btw, their chicken is horrible! does not even look or taste like real chicken (but hey this is a steak thread...)

                                                  as for our area in the east valley, filiberto's is still the best i've had (with los favoritos a close second). i just wish their guacamole was better. it is too liquidy and not chunky enough, what the dilly?

                                                  wow, this thread really does have legs!

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                                                    palmtree38 RE: dongstadden Jul 6, 2009 09:20 AM

                                                    Yes taking cab to scottsdale avenue to pick up rental car then driving to Sedona for 3 nights. then Grand Canyon and then back to Scotsdale for 5 nights.

                                                    If this Phoenix Ranch market has a grocery and gift items it may be worth spending a few hours here? As this could be a outing we could do when staying in Scotsdale.

                                                    Even a recommendation of a good eat mexican style just out of the city not far off the highway to Sedona might be a good option as well.

                                                    Carne Asada's sound yummy. Love steak and lime!

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                                                      hohokam RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 09:53 AM

                                                      Probably best to get your car and then plan your lunch options from there. In my post above, I list a couple of options that are possibly between your car rental pick-up location and Interstate 17 (the road you will take out of Phoenix to get to Sedona). El Nopalito and La Barquita are about a mile apart, and both lie between south Scottsdale and I-17.

                                                      I can't think of any restaurants to recommend between the urban fringe and Sedona--much of that stretch is still very rural, with the occasional unremarkable commercial development and concomitantly unremarkable food options.

                                                      See my reply to your post about Ranch Market in the other thread.

                                                      It would probably be better to plan your Ranch Market outing to take place while you are staying in Scottsdale rather than trying to make it a stop on your way from the airport or the car rental location to Sedona--you'll have more time to get your bearings and won't feel as rushed.

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                                                        palmtree38 RE: hohokam Jul 6, 2009 09:56 AM

                                                        Thanks Hohokam.Thanks will make a visit there when staying in Scottsdale.

                                                        We will be picking up our rental car at the Chapparel Suites on Scottsdale. It sounds like the Sabuddy is near here this maybe a good option? (although not mexican) Will check out your suggestions as well.

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                                                          hohokam RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 10:02 AM

                                                          I can think of a few good options along the way, but none of them are Mexican. Andreoli Italian Grocery (real Italian deli fare and entrees) and Humble Pie (artisanal wood fired pizza) are both quite good and reasonably close to the car pick-up location and/or the Loop 101 freeway.

                                                          Best of luck on your trip.

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                                                          Andreoli Italian Grocer
                                                          8880 E Via, Linda Scottsdale, AZ

                                                          Humble Pie
                                                          6149 N Scottsdale Rd, Scottsdale, AZ 85250

                                                          Humble Pie
                                                          21050 N Tatum Blvd, Phoenix, AZ 85050

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                                                            palmtree38 RE: hohokam Jul 6, 2009 10:06 AM

                                                            Are these all good value for lunch?

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                                                              hohokam RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 10:10 AM

                                                              Hard for me to say. Neither is cheap, but both are quite good.

                                                              I'd suggest reviewing the menus (follow the place links in the post above) and seeing if the prices fit within your budgetary constraints.

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                                                                azhotdish RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 10:12 AM

                                                                Sabuddy is closed. Andreoli would be my pick for lunch.
                                                                http://www.andreoli-grocer.com/

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                                                                  palmtree38 RE: azhotdish Jul 6, 2009 10:23 AM

                                                                  Andreoli does not have a menu. I take it is fresh sandwiches and such? $10 range for a sandwich?

                                                                  When did Sabuddy close? I read they were the best around.

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                                                                    hohokam RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 10:31 AM

                                                                    http://www.chow.com/places/20065

                                                                    http://www.andreoli-grocer.com/Menus/...

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                                                                    Andreoli Italian Grocer
                                                                    8880 E Via, Linda Scottsdale, AZ

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                                                              silverbear RE: palmtree38 Jul 6, 2009 10:35 AM

                                                              A partially dissenting opinion regarding Andreoli:

                                                              Food is good, but I find the service iffy. It's fine when the owner's kids are working the counter, but at other times, it seems like the staff would rather speak Italian among themselves than help customers. Also, for a counter service place, the food can be slow, and there's no breadbasked to tide you over while it's prepared.. If you are on your own or with a small group of adults, Andreoli would be fine. I'd proceed with caution, however, if bringing a large group and/or kids there.

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                                                                palmtree38 RE: silverbear Jul 6, 2009 10:56 AM

                                                                Silverbear thanks for the tips. We will have just been travelling from 2am from Toronto and taking two flights then taking a cab to get our car at noon. . A long wait wont be too good for the children (3 1/2 and 5) I dont take them to fastfood (rotten ronnies and wendys type chains) so was looking for somewhere that might have some nibblies while waiting for meal or a place nice to pick up interesting food.

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                                                                  palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Sep 22, 2009 12:33 PM

                                                                  We are picking up our rental car in scottsdale travelling north/west to Carolina's pick up some food here and then catch the freeway to sedona. Do they specialize in carne asade?

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                                                                    azhotdish RE: palmtree38 Sep 22, 2009 01:28 PM

                                                                    No. Get the red chili burro.
                                                                    http://www.carolinasmex.com/menu.htm

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                                                                      Phoenix99 RE: palmtree38 Sep 22, 2009 02:58 PM

                                                                      Or the machaca. Carne Asada nearby would be America's Taco Kitchen on 7th Street just north of McDowell.

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                                                                        palmtree38 RE: Phoenix99 Sep 22, 2009 05:12 PM

                                                                        I was looking at Carolina's at Cave Creek and Cactus blvd area..

                                                                        Isnt mcdowell just south of old towne? As i would be flying into phoenix getting rental car at scottsdale/mcdonald and going north to sedona. If I was to go to Mcdowell I would be going the opposite end of town ???? Trying to get familiar with my map.
                                                                        red chili burrito looks great!!

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                                                                          Poerz RE: palmtree38 Sep 24, 2009 08:56 AM

                                                                          The original Carolina's has "atmosphere" that the Cave Creek location doesn't have and might be even faster for you since it's right off the freeway. Is there a reason you don't get your rental car at the airport? You could walk to Carolina's from the airport rental car building. From Scottsdale, hop on the 101 south to the 202 heading west. Take I-10 south to I-17 west and get off at 7th Street going north. Mojave is going to be one of your first streets and just turn east (right) on Mojave and Carolina's is a few blocks down on the left.

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                                                                            palmtree38 RE: Poerz Sep 24, 2009 07:03 PM

                                                                            A good reason is I am saving $600 getting it at the hotel that I am staying at the end of my holiday then getting it at the airport.

                                                                            So airport taxi to hotel to get pickup rental on scottsdale and go north to cactus to cave creek and on the I 17..

                                                                            If I go to taxi to scottsdale get rental and go to the "atmosphere" carolina's would I not be going back south then having to go North on my route to Sedona???

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                                                                              johnseberg RE: palmtree38 Sep 24, 2009 07:49 PM

                                                                              In my opinion, you should stick to your original plan. The food at either Carolina's is the same.

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                                                                                palmtree38 RE: johnseberg Sep 25, 2009 01:20 PM

                                                                                Johensberg. does this not look the best route for not back tracking too much? I think I am reading my map properly with the addresses I have.

                                                                                3 more weeks until take off.. I cant wait to try out all the chowhound suggestions!

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                                                                                  johnseberg RE: palmtree38 Sep 25, 2009 03:58 PM

                                                                                  Yes. The route you describe sounds good. I'll clarify. Go North on Scottsdale to Cactus. Take Cactus West toward Cave Creek. Carolina's is about a half block East of Cave Creek, and you can turn right into the lot from Cactus. If you miss the turn into the lot, you can just take a right on Cave Creek, and get in just as easily.

                                                                                  Note: Cactus becomes Thunderbird at Cave Creek. So, your remaining drive to I-17 will be on Thunderbird.

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                                                        Beavis RE: dongstadden Oct 19, 2009 12:53 PM

                                                        El Sol Bakery on Arizona Ave. in Chandler. They have great carne asada. Very most and spicy.

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                                                          jesusio RE: dongstadden Oct 24, 2009 05:30 PM

                                                          All of you are describing Carne Guisada, not Carne Asada. Best carne asada in town is in Tempe on Ash/University. The place is called El Pollo Supremo. Get the flour tortillas and make your own burritos. They don't sell burrito but sell the meat, tortillas, beans, etc to make one. And they're genius. Give it a try. Cash only also.

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                                                            luegar RE: jesusio Dec 8, 2009 04:22 PM

                                                            El Pollo Supremo is bar none the best grilled chicken I have ever had.....it comes out red, God only knows what turns it red but it's incredible!! Having said that, the carne asada I would never recomend. I don't care how many "carne asada experts" say carne asada should be marinated......it isn't!! I was born and raised in Hermosillo, the capital of carne asada and there isn't a single carne asada place that marinates its beef. The would be sacrilegious, given the Sonoran pride of its home grown beef.

                                                            And please, if you go to a carne asada place DO NOT put lime in it!!! taste it first, if the beef is not good then go crazy with the lime. Lime is just for covering bad beef flavor.

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                                                              l2afa RE: luegar Jun 6, 2010 12:53 PM

                                                              Thanks for say that, it is all true, the only thing we put on beef when cook is salt, and not allways... Same my uncle's in Hermosillo. And yes NEVER marinated, because it gets really delicate beef and its not the same.. After that just put some delicious salsa maybe 2 different kind of salsas and some guacamole on your taco,... Ohh man delicious.....!

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                                                            rdhargro RE: dongstadden May 12, 2010 09:22 PM

                                                            Morenos in Mesa makes a mean Asada.

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                                                              l2afa RE: dongstadden Jun 6, 2010 12:48 PM

                                                              LOL...ajajajajjaxD Is it a joke?.... Everybody in here need to go to Asadero El Toro in 19 ave and Mc.Dowell. Phoenix, AZ. Or to the BK in Tucson, AZ. Thats the best carne asada in Arizona, they bring it from Obregon, Son. both of them; I think... The taste is the same than the Hermosillo carne asada... When go to México you should ask for tacos de barbacoa, you will be amazed, because the mexicans in the US sale cabeza as barbacoa and that's wrong.. It is a different thing.

                                                              I'm going right now to asadero el toro.... Ciao!

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