319670 Tue Aug 22 03:26:56 -0700 2006 92 29 Not About Food 0 1824102 Ever since I was a little kid, my parents have told me that eating crabs and persimmons together in the same meal is lethal. I highly doubt the validity of this but the image of a slow crab-persimmon induced death has been forever etched in my subconscious. Are there actual food combinations that are lethal/bad for you? Tue Aug 22 03:26:56 -0700 2006 23630 mielimato 1 1825395 I remember my grandmother having a taboo on fish and sweet (not buttermilk) milk. She would swear it would make you sick all night. Tue Aug 22 18:49:11 -0700 2006 1824102 10285 Candy 1 1825559 According to my family history, one of my mom's siblings died after eating cherries and milk. Mom, of course, scoffs at the notion, but at least some of her older sisters still believe it, some 60+ years later. Tue Aug 22 19:30:39 -0700 2006 1824102 13700 ricepad 2 1825853 I think the cherries and milk myth is older than that--President Zachary Taylor died after a snack of cherries and milk in 1850. Could have been bad milk--typhoid or cholera or something like that. I have also heard of the fish and milk thing--my ex-husband swore that combination made him sick. Of course, he is an idiot. Tue Aug 22 20:56:14 -0700 2006 1825559 22879 sparrowgrass 3 1825875 I didn't mean that my family ORIGINATED the myth...only that some members believe it. Mom's sister did, in fact, die, and the proximal consumption of cherries and milk convinced my aunts of the connection. Tue Aug 22 21:02:57 -0700 2006 1825853 13700 ricepad 4 4114184 That's interesting, I wonder if cherry ice cream or just cherries and anything cream would be the same to them? Citrus and milk, mostly orange juice I NEVER have. I rather enjoy the lemon in my salad mixed with the cream sauce on my plate though. Sun Oct 19 08:52:03 -0700 2008 1825875 224081 BamiaWruz 1 1825624 Durian and alcohol. Tue Aug 22 19:48:28 -0700 2006 1824102 11369 Robert Lauriston 2 1825665 LOL. Tue Aug 22 20:03:27 -0700 2006 1825624 10162 Bob Martinez 2 1825691 Most especially durian and beer. Over ripe durian belches are best avoided if you value your sanity and your friends and family. I wanted to die the one time I had this combo, but unfortunately for the next few hours I remained alive... and suffered greatly. It's a bad day when the smell of your own burps makes your eyes water and you feel faint and nauseous. Tue Aug 22 20:10:39 -0700 2006 1825624 10732 JMF 3 1827182 That's hilarious! I remember to avoid that combo. I think the perisimmons and crab combo is based on the old Chinese philosophy of ying and yang, that some foods are "hot" and others are "cold" and that certain combinations of these things can create "poisons" in the body. Or at least that's the only coherent explanation I was ever able to get from my parents. Wed Aug 23 14:14:58 -0700 2006 1825691 23630 mielimato 1 3170104 the combination of crab and persimmon is very true, believe it or not. my mom just this very week had a really bad reaction and had to be hospitalized for a day. my mom never had any allergies before either. she first had persimmons then had a crab noodle soup later that night and she had a terrible rash break out all over her body. so, as crazy as it sounds, it's definitely true. Sat Dec 01 01:47:10 -0800 2007 1824102 146945 azndove07 2 3181038 On Monday my wife finished up some crab and corn chowder that we had made this weekend. Last night (Tuesday) she ate a persimmon. She didn't say anything about not feeling well. On the other hand, she is still in bed- now I'm wondering if I need to go wake her up to check on her! Wed Dec 05 06:21:49 -0800 2007 3170104 96658 Clarkafella 1 3170169 Raw shellfish and beer, I've heard. I always make sure to drink something else. Sat Dec 01 04:54:05 -0800 2007 1824102 11097 coll 2 3170421 Raw oysters w/o beer? Please, say it isn't so! Sat Dec 01 08:09:05 -0800 2007 3170169 29820 SweetPea 2 3170517 Guinness is a traditional accompaniment for oysters on the half shell. Beer often takes the place of sake at sushi and sashimi bars that serve raw scallops and other uncooked shellfish. Have never heard of anyone complaining of ill effects from the combination. Sat Dec 01 09:05:25 -0800 2007 3170169 10520 carswell 3 3170782 My brother in law told me that one, maybe he just had a hangover! Sat Dec 01 11:39:33 -0800 2007 3170517 11097 coll 2 3174209 The quantities of beer and raw oysters consumed every day in Louisiana would argue against this. Man, i want some oysters. Sun Dec 02 21:58:18 -0800 2007 3170169 19291 frankiii 3 4186160 Raw oysters of marine life, or oysters coming from some meat animal? Yikes! (if the latter) Wed Nov 19 10:13:33 -0800 2008 3174209 60276 RShea78 2 3360840 Have always heard that raw oysters and "hard" liquor will not sit well. We had a local celebrity here once get pulled over for DUI and claimed it was the whiskey and oysters he had consumed, that was causing him to weave all over the road... Sun Feb 03 08:36:49 -0800 2008 3170169 11562 Hue 2 3781031 Nah, c'mon! Sat Jun 14 16:36:52 -0700 2008 3170169 56762 LulusMom 3 3781669 Scouts Honor. Became a local catchphrase "Beltway Oysters" Sun Jun 15 04:19:55 -0700 2008 3781031 11562 Hue 4 3781779 But how about oyster shooters? Pretty funny about local celeb. Sun Jun 15 06:36:30 -0700 2008 3781669 56762 LulusMom 1 3170394 I was at an ice cream shop in Germany where everyone was having ice cream w/ beer on the side. I asked for water instead, the waiter stuck his tongue out at me, grimaced and said something to my German friend. My friend told me the waiter said water with ice cream would make me sick. So, beer and ice cream is fine but water will make me sick? Sat Dec 01 07:54:42 -0800 2007 1824102 39874 chowser 2 3170837 I think they were pulling your leg. German humor. Sat Dec 01 12:10:01 -0800 2007 3170394 116513 linguafood 3 3171096 I thought he just wanted me to order the beer. He was pretty funny. I think I caught his attention since he dropped a spoon and I was quick enough to catch it midair. Sat Dec 01 14:21:48 -0800 2007 3170837 39874 chowser 1 3170483 Fish with cream always makes me sick - but obviously that's not universal, just me. Sat Dec 01 08:46:04 -0800 2007 1824102 40746 Peg 2 3171684 I have that problem with fish and tomatoes--but cocktail sauce is fine, as is ketchup with salmon patties. So I'm pretty sure it's in my head. Sat Dec 01 19:28:55 -0800 2007 3170483 32586 revsharkie 2 3341194 Seafood or fish in a creamy sauce (like lobster newburg) makes me sick, especially when accompanied by a glass of wine. It's a shame, because it's a tasty and rather common combination. But it doesn't sit well with me at all. Mon Jan 28 11:37:00 -0800 2008 3170483 40284 AmyH 1 3170496 There can be some bad combinations. Ginseng can act as a blood thinner, so in combination with some other herbs/foods/medicines(aspirin) can cause bleeding. Alchohol can intensify certain properties. Most of the "bad" effects happen with raw or near raw combinations as cooking can often change the properties of the ingredients. http://www.foodsnherbs.com/ has a lot of information on the properties of different foods. Sat Dec 01 08:55:14 -0800 2007 1824102 93805 hannaone 1 3171669 Emeril always cautioned against combining citrus with dairy. I don't really know why. I've made a sauce for years for veal scallipini that combines cream with mustard and lemon juice (and garlic, capers, tomatoes and olives). Sat Dec 01 19:21:48 -0800 2007 1824102 26180 Chinon00 2 3171685 The sauce is probably fine, but one way to make sour milk for a cake is to mix lemon juice with milk and let it sit a few minutes. Sat Dec 01 19:29:48 -0800 2007 3171669 32586 revsharkie 2 3172157 I made some lamb chops that involved yogurt and lemon juice (Epicurious, I think) and it was wonderful and we're fine. Sun Dec 02 05:41:44 -0800 2007 3171669 29820 SweetPea 3 3172316 Not claiming to be an expert, but I thought acids and milk could cause the solids to precipitate out, leading to chunks of material in the food? But maybe cream is protected by its fat content and the yogourt is already processed due to the fermentation process? Or if you add cream and acid to a sauce, you can ad them in a certain order to avoid the curdling?Any real experts out there? This is a good question... another toxic combination: Korean salted pollack (fish) roe and chocolate. This is what happens when you eat a Korean meal and follow it up with a Western dessert. Fishy doesn't go so well with cocoa. To put it another way, there ain't going to be a Vosges Mo fish roe chocolate bar soon. Nor should Koreans come out with chocolate covered dried squid (although I have a sneaking suspicion that it has been tried, I wouldn't put it past my tribe) Sun Dec 02 07:52:26 -0800 2007 3172157 89969 moh 4 3172352 ROFL. Some of the flavor combos Koreans have come up with probably should go in the toxic category. I believe I did see a short lived chocolate covered shrimp chip while I lived in Korea. Sun Dec 02 08:08:02 -0800 2007 3172316 93805 hannaone 4 3181889 "Not claiming to be an expert, but I thought acids and milk could cause the solids to precipitate out, leading to chunks of material in the food." Which explains why you should NEVER accept a free shot of the "Cement Mixer": Bailey's and lime juice. Swirl in mouth before swallowing. Wed Dec 05 10:36:56 -0800 2007 3172316 49179 jennywinker 4 3778926 haha... Filipinos eat chocolate & fish all the time. There's a sweet chocolate rice porridge called champorado, usually eaten with dried salty fish. Fri Jun 13 15:42:31 -0700 2008 3172316 16363 mogo 5 3779297 Oh dear, I'm not sure I'd find that appetizing, but I guess I'd be willing to give it a try if you told me it wasn't bad. Have you tried it? is it ok? I also remembered that Big Island Candy in Hawaii does a chocolate covered cuttlefish.... Fri Jun 13 18:34:01 -0700 2008 3778926 89969 moh 6 3781308 I've never tried it myself, but I do have friends who love it. :) Sat Jun 14 19:58:11 -0700 2008 3779297 16363 mogo 2 3174040 >> Emeril always cautioned against combining citrus with dairy. He can have my creamsicle when he pries it from my cold, dead hands. Sun Dec 02 20:28:42 -0800 2007 3171669 25310 Chuckles the Clone 2 3187116 My guess is he was cautioning against the possibility of having the milk/dairy curdle. Nothing lethal that I've ever heard of in a lemon-dairy combination beyond the possibility of unwanted curds. Fri Dec 07 01:12:22 -0800 2007 3171669 112096 Caroline1 3 3193322 This reminds me of the alcoholic beverage challenge on Top Chef when Betty made a cocktail with Baileys and citrus and the judge after hearing ingredients said I doubt this will be good-tried it and said yes I was right it isn't good. The dairy had curdled. Sun Dec 09 15:52:21 -0800 2007 3187116 44946 foodseek 4 3193911 There is a ratio of how much lemon any milk or cream will handle before curdling. I posted my all-time-ever favorite cocktail (pink lady in a version that is sometimes called a pink rose) in another thread that is drop-dead fantastic, but has a really wicked kick. Tastes so innocently good I'm very careful who I serve it to. It contains gin, an egg white, half and half, grenadine and fresh lemon juice, but mess up on the ratios and you have a martini glassful of pink cottage cheese! blech! However, I don't have any experience trying to mix Bailey's Irish Cream with anything more than Bailey's Irish Cream! Some things just come across to me as trying to French fry beluga caviar. Why? Sun Dec 09 20:14:32 -0800 2007 3193322 112096 Caroline1 5 3194239 You should try a BBC (Baileys Banana Colada) it was all the rage around here this summer. Has Baileys, dark rum, banana liqueur, fresh banana and pina colada mix in equal amounts, with lots of ice: can add a floater of dark rum on top. Talk about a wicked kick, after you think you just drank a milkshake! Mon Dec 10 01:14:02 -0800 2007 3193911 11097 coll 5 3367445 ratios please? Sounds gorgeous, I love pretty cocktails. Almost a ramos fizz in the pink? Tue Feb 05 12:16:24 -0800 2008 3193911 50431 chef chicklet 6 4107789 Sorry just found your question, too bad summer's over. It's actually just a tan color, like a milkshake, you could always serve it with an umbrella to pretty it up! Here's the recipe: for a blenderful:2 big glasses: 2 bananas 2 oz creme de banana liqeuer Blend. Then add 2 oz baileys irish cream 4 oz pina colada mix or cream of coconut 4 oz dark rum lots of ice cubes Blend and serve in hurricane glasses. If you want to go crazy, you can add a floater of dark rum on top. Thu Oct 16 02:47:41 -0700 2008 3367445 11097 coll 1 3174129 I would think the whole no "milk and lemon" thing is simply to prevent the production of cheese. Literally. When I make paneer (an Indian soft cheese), it involves boiling a gallon of whole milk and then throwing in some lemon juice. Sun Dec 02 21:10:08 -0800 2007 1824102 128613 CulinaryCutie3 2 3174169 the warnings against combining citrus & dairy aren't about health...it's more of a cautionary guideline in terms of food prep - the acid in citrus foods can cause milk products to curdle. Sun Dec 02 21:35:05 -0800 2007 3174129 103920 goodhealthgourmet 3 3174367 Thank you. It's a coagulation thing, about the solution "breaking." Citrus/dairy combos rock. The beloved Creamsicle/Orangsicle. Beurre blanc. Hollandaise. They just have to be combined using the proper method. Mon Dec 03 02:12:21 -0800 2007 3174169 18222 maria lorraine 4 3185934 Don't forget lemon cream cake. my all time fave. Thu Dec 06 14:43:15 -0800 2007 3174367 10246 choctastic 1 3180923 This party pooper website claims all sorts of toxic food combinations in TROPHOLOGY-THE SCIENCE OF FOOD COMBINING. Check out the link and read this list of forbidden food combinations (left hand side of page entitled "Food combining rules"). This stupid website takes all of the joy out of eating and I personally think whoever wrote it sounds like a loser. http://www.hps-online.com/food/index.htm Wed Dec 05 05:14:18 -0800 2007 1824102 139265 Cookiepants 2 3181040 WOW, that was hilarious! I tried to connect to the "I can't poop!" link on Youtube but unfortunately they had removed their video. Good thing, I might have popped a gut laughing... Not quite what they were intending with their whole Colonic Cleansing message. Wed Dec 05 06:23:55 -0800 2007 3180923 89969 moh 2 3181647 Oh *that* again. An old roommate had the "danger food combinations" chart posted prominently on our fridge. Among the forbidden pairs: acid + starch. My inner italian laughed every time I scooped some tomato sauce over a nice plate of spaghetti. Carbonara drove her absolutely bonkers ("oh my god! you can't mix eggs with cheese! and protein and grain together! no!") I think that was when I decided to never use scientific sounding terms I didn't really understand ("protein", "carbohydrate", "lactose") in place of actual food words because that seemed to lead to deep confusion. Wed Dec 05 09:32:50 -0800 2007 3180923 25310 Chuckles the Clone 3 3181810 I think the key term is "Scientific-sounding". There was a fair amount of what felt like pseudoscience on that website. And if avoiding toxic food combinations means giving up carbonara, well, I'll keep my bunged up colon, thank you. But still can't fully recommend chocolate with salted fish roe products Wed Dec 05 10:16:14 -0800 2007 3181647 89969 moh 4 3181838 As a practicing scientist (hope that doesn't sound too presumptuous), I couldn't detect any science whatsoever in either the website or in the "food combining rules". Just someone with no real knowledge of digestion and an aversion to farting, I guess. Wed Dec 05 10:21:27 -0800 2007 3181810 36661 Sam Fujisaka 5 3182114 I also have problems with a "scientific" source that uses Moses as an example. Reading parts of that, it amazes me that mankind has managed to survive. How will I eat pasta when it has BOTH protein and carbs? Wed Dec 05 11:35:51 -0800 2007 3181838 39874 chowser 2 3183766 good god, this guy is a quack with a capital Q. there is zero scientific basis for his claims. and as someone of jewish descent, i'm personally offended that he has the gall to cite the dietary law forbidding the simultaneous consumption of milk and flesh as justification for his contention that you shouldn't combine milk & meat. what an ass. some other gems i have to acknowledge: "If you're eating a starch-based meal of noodles or rice, avoid vinegar as well as concentrated protein (meat, chicken)." - so much for the healing powers of chicken soup [or as it's known to some of us, "jewish penicillin"]. guess we'll also have to forget about spaghetti & meatballs, nigiri sushi [and actually, the majority of non-vegetarian dishes in all eastern cuisines], paella, jambalaya.... "Avoid combining concentrated proteins and acids at the same meal." - ummm, protein IS acidic, einstein. ceviche, anyone? ;) "Eat concentrated proteins such as meat, fish, eggs and cheese separately from concentrated starches such as bread, potatoes and rice. For example, eat toast or eggs for breakfast, the hamburger patty or the bun for lunch, meat or potatoes for dinner." -yep, now that's what i call sound nutritional advice. have a hamburger bun for lunch. just the bun. "Bread (starch) and butter (fat) is a perfectly compatible combination, but when you spread a spoonful of honey or jam over it, you introduce sugars to the blend, which interferes with the digestion of the starch in bread. eat starches and sugars separately." - considering that starch IS sugar, i'd really like to see him figure out a way to pull this one off. "If you really have a 'sweet tooth' and crave cakes, pies and pastries, indulge your habit occasionally by making a whole meal of them." -again, ideal dietary advice for a nation struggling with an obesity epidemic...forget the entrées, let's just eat cake and pie for dinner! but wait...don't those desserts contain starch AND sugar? uh-oh... btw, am i the only one who thinks we need some additional topic/board categories around here? i know it's not easy to classify some of these threads, but how is it that a discussion titled "toxic FOOD combinations" falls into the "NOT about food" category? Wed Dec 05 21:26:21 -0800 2007 3180923 103920 goodhealthgourmet 3 3185916 My favorite? Trying to explain why one should not combine protein and starch: "If that is the case, you may well wonder, then why does the stomach have no trouble handling foods that naturally contain both protein and starch, such as whole grains? As Dr. Shelton points out, "There is a great difference between the digestion of a food, however complex its composition, and the digestion of a mixture of different foods." To a single article of food that is a starch-protein combination, the body can easily adjust its juices, both as to strength and timing, to the digestive requirements of the food. But when two foods are eaten with different, even opposite, digestive needs, this precise adjustment of juices to requirements becomes impossible." I love it . My stomach is smart enough to figure out the difference between a single type of food vs. 2 different types of food. How can we NOT believe????? Thu Dec 06 14:38:14 -0800 2007 3183766 89969 moh 4 3187058 i got a good laugh out of that one too. unfortunately, as much as we can poke fun at this guy, it's incredibly disturbing to realize that there are actually people who fall for this nonsense. Thu Dec 06 23:49:39 -0800 2007 3185916 103920 goodhealthgourmet 2 3365262 This looks like the diet the high colonic people promote. Mon Feb 04 17:56:42 -0800 2008 3180923 58211 Ljubitca 1 3182315 After seeing what happens when a Mentos is dropped into Diet Coke, I wouldn't recommend consuming those together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKoB0MHVBvM Grapefruit consumed with some medicines can be harmful. Wed Dec 05 12:26:19 -0800 2007 1824102 126101 Antilope 2 3182343 Not harmful, it just blocks the medicine from working. Wed Dec 05 12:33:14 -0800 2007 3182315 11097 coll 3 3182353 Depends on the type of medicine. I take heart medicine. If that doesn't work, it can be quite harmful. Believe me. Wed Dec 05 12:35:55 -0800 2007 3182343 126101 Antilope 2 3183506 My mom and dad each eat half a grapefruit with their breakfast every morning, and have done so every day of their lives for years and years. When their doctor put them on Lipitor, they asked him about the sign on the side that said they couldn't eat grapefruit. He said that it probably wouldn't hurt them since the daily grapefruit consumption predated the Lipitor. So they continue to take their Lipitor and eat their grapefruit, and their cholesterol counts are where they're supposed to be now. YMMV, however, and folks should obviously check with their own doctors. Wed Dec 05 19:22:44 -0800 2007 3182315 32586 revsharkie 3 3186523 This is a really fun topic but I have to respond with some killjoy info about the grapefruit-medicines combo. It can be potentially dangerous, especially the Lipitor (or other cholesterol lowering meds) and grapefruit, either whole fruit or juice. Apparently the grapefruit actually raises the concentration of the drug in your system (does not block the medication, as mentioned above). My grandfather ate a grapefruit every morning and several months after starting Lipitor was diagnosed with painful and debilitating peripheral neuropathy - basically the nerves in his hands and feet were permanently damaged and he could no longer walk. Please let your folks know. There's lots more info out there on this awful side effect. Thu Dec 06 18:07:38 -0800 2007 3183506 65263 neobite 2 3359010 The Mentos and Diet Coke film made my day - thanks! Sat Feb 02 13:16:30 -0800 2008 3182315 11388 Marsha 1 3186438 I always thought it was crab and pumpkin that's toxic. Or maybe both of that combo. You can easily check by looking at the back of one of those thin yearly Chinese Almanac-type book. While most combo they list (with drawings of the items, so you don't really have to read Chinese to get it) are not lethal, they always list the antidote for the condition. I think about 70% of the time, green mung bean soup is the antidote. This is especially so if the condition is some sort of skin rash. As for the validity? You all can laugh all you want. Do stop to consider that perhaps in the olden time various food had more distinct properties than they do today. As a kid I was traumatized when my face broke out with boils after eating crab and pumpkin (or persimmon?), not even in the same meal, but probably in the same day. The thing that stuck out in my mind was the stupid things that kids do to scare themselves... there were only a couple of them left to heal, as they're scabbing, I kept staring at the one on my nose...me with a mirror in my hand...focussing so hard on this ugly ugly boil...quickly looking away, and then inevitably unable to NOT look, I look again, and back and forth, and of course, eventually got so disgusted that I started yelling and crying... ah well, I was maybe 5, 6 years old...but it DID happen! Thu Dec 06 17:34:17 -0800 2007 1824102 10422 HLing 1 3332890 Persimmons generally can be dangerous if they aren't ripe. Unripe persimmons, especially some varieties, contain lots and lots of tannin that can bind with protein in your stomach and create a bezoar (google persimmon bezoar), which is an indigestible mass that sticks around in your stomach for a while. I don't know if crab has anything unique that exacerbates this, but it is high in protein so it would certainly contribute. Fri Jan 25 13:18:12 -0800 2008 1824102 17221 SteveG 2 4114278 My dad loves persimmons but he says if he eats too many of them, he gets severely constipated...so now he eats the peel along with the fruit and apparently his problem has been solved... Sun Oct 19 09:55:08 -0700 2008 3332890 56183 soypower 1 3333429 Fiber One + broccoli soup, though not lethal, SMELLS lethal. Fri Jan 25 15:31:14 -0800 2008 1824102 12873 OCAnn 1 3333868 i remember being warned against drinking orange juice and milk in any kind of proximity, that it would curdle in your stomach. I seem to remember a similar do not drink milk with stuff like lobster rule too........when i was growing up. Than again.....i was also warned against eating apple seeds and told that the would sprout and grow a tree in my belly......... Fri Jan 25 18:00:21 -0800 2008 1824102 153184 im_nomad 1 3341941 You must be Korean because I vaguely remember my mom telling me this as well. A quick google search led me to this: http://www.zagalchi.co.kr/zagal/eza-sangsik1.php People on this board seem to be ridiculing this food combining guy because he's saying things that are not based on scientific claims. I haven't seen his website, but I do know a lot of people who have had an easier time with digestion once they did incorporate food combining principles. It's probably not for everybody. But in my experience those who have serious problems with digestion do find some benefit. I'm not sure what terminology he's using to describe it -- but basically food combining principles say if you eat meat, dairy or legumes you should combine it with green low-carb vegetables as opposed to complex starches (eg. grains) for more efficient digestion. I don't think I could do this because this means I would have to give up dumplings. I feel that before completely dismissing something to try it for oneself. When I was younger I laughed at so many things because it wasn't scientific (I was involved with science and mathematic research) and sounded ridiculous. However, as I get older and experience new things, I see the wisdom in a lot of these claims. And I realize how presumptive I was in the past. It pays to keep an open mind. So don't beat it until you try it. Mon Jan 28 14:21:33 -0800 2008 1824102 10763 Miss Needle 2 3354764 I won't be trying it as I was not impressed with the site. Too many rules and like I already said, it takes the JOY out of eating. By all means you go ahead and try it and let us know how it goes. If I was to try to follow all of his ridiculous rules I would probably be eating every hour. Which would wear down the enamel on my teeth because my mouth would be so acidic. Etc. Etc. Nope I still think its the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Fri Feb 01 04:43:30 -0800 2008 3341941 139265 Cookiepants 3 3359278 I was standing in line at a local convenience store when I heard the clerk say to the person in front of me "That's quite a combination." I looked to see what he was buying. Chocolate ice cream and cat food. Not lethal, probably, but a good stomach turner. Sat Feb 02 14:51:52 -0800 2008 3354764 54222 ekammin 4 3365276 When we were kids and I ate meat) my mother wouldn't allow us to eat pork and drink water at the same time. It didn't make sense to me then and now I don't eat meat anymore so it doesn't matter. Mon Feb 04 18:01:20 -0800 2008 3359278 58211 Ljubitca 5 3367507 The only reasoning I can come up with is perhaps your mom did that because she thought pork was hard to digest (a lot of people view it this way). Drinking water with your pork would dilute the gastric juices, impeding digestion. Tue Feb 05 12:35:57 -0800 2008 3365276 10763 Miss Needle 1 3367488 While attending junior high, the word was out in the cafeteria that chili and milk would kill you. More than likely that rumor was created by someone that wanted either or both that day. But I never took chances, and skipped lunch. Today, I love chili and milk, not together, I'd much rather have an ice cold beer. Tue Feb 05 12:29:09 -0800 2008 1824102 50431 chef chicklet 2 3372217 But people top chili with cheese all the time? Wed Feb 06 19:50:15 -0800 2008 3367488 58211 Ljubitca 2 3372227 I get the bad digestion but she could have left out the death thing - I was petrified. Someone else I knew wouldnt serve spaghetti with milk - besides being a disgusting combination - she would only serve soda as it was dangerous to serve it with milk. Very strange. Wed Feb 06 19:52:47 -0800 2008 3367488 58211 Ljubitca 3 3378436 A hot bowl of spaghetti with a cold glass of milk??? Nothing disgusting about that. Fri Feb 08 13:58:52 -0800 2008 3372227 76226 Oh Robin 4 3380227 growing up i was told spaghetti sauce and milk would make you sick. i got to drink soda with dinner on those nights :) Sat Feb 09 09:17:01 -0800 2008 3378436 30273 hotoynoodle 1 3372244 I absolutely, positively, completely cannot believe that no one has mentioned the most lethal food combination of all time... POP ROCKS AND SODA!!!!! I mean really, we all know it killed Mikey, right? Wed Feb 06 20:00:12 -0800 2008 1824102 67610 Suzy Q 1 3781043 This whole idea is rubbish. If it tastes good, eat it. There is no such thing as a toxic food combo. An individual might have a bad reaction to a certain food, but to suggest that certain edible foods, when mixed in the human stomach, are poisonous is ridiculous. There is absolutely no serious science in support of this whacko idea. Sat Jun 14 16:46:33 -0700 2008 1824102 11995 pikawicca 1 3781398 Coffee and orange juice side-by-side for breakfast. Toxic to my stomach, at least. Sat Jun 14 21:14:56 -0700 2008 1824102 67548 azhotdish 1 3781487 King John of England died of eating a large meal of peaches and new ale. I learned this in Senior English, and it stuck with me because I thought this was an odd way to die. Sat Jun 14 22:40:21 -0700 2008 1824102 166787 beth1 1 3807929 An acquaintance of mind conducted a study on Aspartame and Caffeine and the results showed that the combination was neurodegenerative. It was just state science fair, but still....No Equal in my coffee please... Tue Jun 24 04:50:58 -0700 2008 1824102 189575 lycheefloat 2 3811099 How much Aspartame to how much caffeine? I'm really curious, since I drink a lot of Diet Coke. Tue Jun 24 19:55:40 -0700 2008 3807929 166787 beth1 1 4114332 I quickly browsed through the other posts, so if I repeat something already mentioned, I apologize ahead of time. About the citrus and milk, from what I understand, it is NOT toxic, but it MAY cause indigestion to some people. Same for soymilk and egg --> may cause indigestion. Crab and green bean can be very bad. It will make you sick. Too much ginko nuts could be poisonous. Chinese people believe that pregnant women shouldn't have green beans, watermelon, daikons and raw food. It may cause miscarriage if you consume too much! Sun Oct 19 10:37:44 -0700 2008 1824102 54254 kobetobiko 2 4115348 I have a very clear childhood memory of my Japanese mom absolutely forbidding the family the watermelon we had been anticipating all day because we had just had tempura for dinner. She even had what we called the "fortune telling book" which listed all the "dangereous" food combinations. Right there in black and white characters was the warning against combining tempura and watermelon in the same sitting. Or maybe she just didn't want to cut up the melon. Hmm. Sun Oct 19 21:32:10 -0700 2008 4114332 41995 SDgirl 1 4119558 I learned at a Mushroom Festival last year that morel poisoning can occur in some individuals if they consume them with alcohol. Tue Oct 21 15:38:40 -0700 2008 1824102 205013 PaperMoon 2 4345575 I'm not saying the person in question is wrong, but this sounds like the person was confusing morels with inkcap mushrooms, which really are poisonous when combined with alchol (a fact expoited in countless murder mysteries) . On a funnier note, I knew someone who took the "no acid/milk" thing literally, until the point when I noted that by that defintion, and ice cream soda or root beer float was impossible, since even if you found a soda that was citric acid free (an practically all types have citric acid in them somewhere) your still left with the fact that carbonated water is istelf an acid (H2O+CO2=H2CO3(carbonic acid) and is more than capable of curding milk on its own (I know I actually tried it once) . Wed Jan 21 15:03:36 -0800 2009 4119558 24492 jumpingmonk 1 4185711 Just stumbled across this, but I thought I'd add this from ancient Chinese wisdom. The translation is from the source website, and is rough, but generally comprehensible. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't eat with the persimmon together: The ancient medical book records : "If eat crab with persimmons together, it can make people suffer from diarrhoea . "The reason is that the crab includes the abundant protein, and persimmons includes a lot of tannic acid, the two eat together, will solidify and harden. In addition, the crab and persimmon all belong to the cold and cool things , at the same time can easily cause to uncomfortable if take it excessively . "when suffer crab’s toxin occasionally , fry purple perilla juice to drink or smash wax juice to drink, that can all dismiss . " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other proscribed combinations included crab with loach and crab with muskmelon. http://eatingchinese.org/dazha/dazha1.htm The original host website for the article has expired, but the text (without some images) can be dug out of the Internet Archive: http://is.gd/88cB Wed Nov 19 07:54:42 -0800 2008 1824102 131118 Xiao Yang 1 4187553 Cheese Fondue and Water. The idea is that drinking cold water, interacting with the cheese in your stomach, creates a ball of cheese, making for a very unpleasant digestion. I had alwyas heard this ("you must drink wine, my dear") and my step-son confirms that he had a terrible experince in Switzerland chowing fondue and guzzleing water. Wed Nov 19 18:02:15 -0800 2008 1824102 21566 tbear 1 4349856 Back in the "Olden Days" they thought my great grandfather died because he was working in the fields, and drank cold water before he cooled off. OTOH - in my younger days....I thought *I* was going to die after drinking large quantities of Seagrams and just about anything we had,,,ginger ale, orange juice, diet pepsi, etc. Thu Jan 22 22:46:50 -0800 2009 1824102 226942 al b. darned