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Fozzie Bear Aug 19, 2006 07:53 PM

Any word on these restaurants for nice dinner for two?

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  1. carln RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 19, 2006 09:18 PM

    I have eaten at Providence, Table 8 and Ammo. Providence is one of my favorite restaurants in town (in a huge seafood fan) and for an exquisite seafood meal go there and have the 12 course tasting menu. I think that doing the tasting menu is the only way to go at Providence.

    I havent eaten at Table 8 in over a year but the last time i ate there the food was excellent and i was very impressed.

    Ammo, i am not a fan of. I think the food is rather average (although i have only eaten lunch there) and the menu is pretty boring.

    Hope this helps.

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      MareZeeDotes RE: carln Aug 21, 2006 04:00 PM

      May I ask how much the tasting menu was? Is there an option for wine pairings?

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        carln RE: MareZeeDotes Aug 21, 2006 10:26 PM

        I believe the 7 course tasting menu is about $85 and the 12 course is about $115. They do offer it with wine pairings and the increase in price is about $30 or $40 bucks if you want it with wine.

        I feel that if you are going to eat at providence you really need to do the tasting menu. Michael C is such an artist that you cant fully enjoy his creations unless you try them all. It would be like going to Urazawa and ordering one meal...in my opinion.

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          Cecilbee RE: carln Aug 22, 2006 06:09 PM

          My first outing I did the tasting menu with the wine pairings ($145), and it was fabulous. Incredible food. That said, I did not enjoy the wines. I felt they added nothing to the food. One was particularly awful - it smelled too strongly of yeast. Next time, I will simply order a bottle. But don't miss the tasting menu by itself. It's hard to describe how incredible it is. Also, the staff treats you like royalty, and that goes a long way when you're plunking down $350 for dinner!

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            MareZeeDotes RE: Cecilbee Aug 24, 2006 04:55 AM

            Thanks for the heads up! $115 for a 12 course meal really isn't that bad at all. Good to know about the wine pairings too - I would have been so disappointed if they didn't accentuate the food and experience.

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      carter RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 19, 2006 11:07 PM

      As already posted several months ago, I am not the biggest fan of Providence, yet also did not have the tasting menu. Cannot eat that much.
      However, have had several VERY good meals at Hatfield's. Its not got the decor of either P'dence or Table 8, and in fact is done quite simply. However the food is wonderful, with about 5 entrees and 5 appetizers, plus fabulous desserts. They also tasting menus - $72 and $42. Not done either. Great wine list as well. Croque Madam is an amazing appetizer. Here is the menu for your review:
      http://www.hatfieldsrestaurant.com/#

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        russkar RE: carter Aug 21, 2006 02:42 PM

        The Providence Tasting Menu isn't that much food, portions are small and very good.
        We went to Hatfield's with a Group last week and shared almost everything on the Menu. I have to admit that I was somewhat disappointed with the Appys, most were rather tasteless.
        The Mains were better but the Lamb Rack was gamey, Flat Iron Steak was very tender, Chicken breast was delicate, the Halibut was very good also. Desserts were average.
        Service was excellent. Overall a decent experience but probably won't return. Too many other better Places in the same area. ANGELINI OSTERIA for instance.

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          carter RE: russkar Aug 22, 2006 01:27 AM

          The appy I like best is the croque madam, although the warm summer salad has a nice blend of flavors, yet it is not a definitive work in any way, but quite tasty.
          Had not seen the menu in a while, and found several items no longer available when last there, yet the halibut, bass and duck items - all wonderful - were still on the list. I prepare lamb at home at least as well and thus it becomes less an allure in a restaurant unless it really sounds exotic. Hangar steak is just not my thing.
          The desserts menu at the moment is quite uninteresting, except for the panna cotta, as I do not eat chocolate and the beignets are not all that interesting, concept notwithstanding.
          Also, the wine list represents good variation with wines you might never have tasted, yet would love to drink again, and they seem affordable by neighborhood standards.
          I like its casualness, as opposed to the attitude and noise factor at Angelini, and I'm not the world's great fan of Italian food any way.

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            russkar RE: carter Aug 22, 2006 03:43 AM

            Sounds like we agree on Hatfield's and sorry you don't like noisy Italian , the killer food at ANGELINI drowns out the noise. The Patio can be pleasent. Back to Hatfield's ,Wine list is OK but not up to the "brought in wines". We still bought from the list as a courtesy.

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        Babette RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 19, 2006 11:37 PM

        I have been a fan of Ammo, but it's more an everyday type of experience. I like the lentil salad & the burger, and their pizza is pretty good, but am a bit turned off recently by the sometimes indifferent service.
        http://ammocafe.com/default.htm

        It is not on the same level as Providence--lots more there to choose from, attentive service, very innovative menu (some think too innovative), love the chowda:
        http://www.providencela.com/

        Haven't yet tried the other 2.

        Please report back.

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          FoiIsGoodFood RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 22, 2006 12:13 AM

          I love AMMO, but it is simply not in the same league as the other restaurants discussed here. And they do not try to be. AMMO does an enormous lunch/brunch business for industry types that are working over a meal, as well as maintaining a tiny waiste line. There food is more health/organic oriented, and as a result obviously makes them vastly different than the other restaurants listed. That being said, we go there often for lunch and find the food and service consistently excellent. (And MUCH cheaper than the rest, also.)

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            skwasha RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 22, 2006 02:30 AM

            I know they offer a wine pairing with the tasting menu at Providence (*love* that place!) But what about at Hatfield's? If so, how much? Anyone done the tasting menu there? Better ordering a la carte?

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              jacinthe RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 22, 2006 03:52 AM

              I went to Table 8 recently with a group of friends, and it was very good. The last time I'd gone was when it had just opened, and honestly, didn't have the highest expectations, but I was pleasantly surprised by the excellent food and service. We spoke to the chef afterwards, and he said that he tweaks the menu all the time, depending on what's in season. If they have the duck proscuitto and poached duck egg over frisee, I highly recommend it, as I do the duck breast as entree.

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                carter RE: jacinthe Aug 22, 2006 04:03 AM

                Since Table 8 opened in Miami, I am not sure your opening experience may be similar to what you might experience today. The rumors have it that Govind is spending less time in the kitchen and more into creating an empire. Hope I am wrong, but...
                If you do return, compare for the benefit of the board, please.

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                  jacinthe RE: carter Aug 22, 2006 05:31 AM

                  In fact, the post I just wrote was about a visit made less than a month ago (sorry if that was confusing). I remember little about the first trip I made - just that I'd gotten the sweetbread appetizer and it was to die for. At that time, I don't remember being super-impressed, but it was a long time - and many meals - ago. But this time 'round, both food and service were very good, as I said above, and it'd be a good date place. I'd like to go back myself to check out the bar menu.

                  Also, Govind Armstrong was present that evening of my most recent visit - unsure as to whether he actually was cooking or not, but we were one of the last tables there and he stopped by and chatted with us some, which was nice.

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                    New Trial RE: carter Aug 22, 2006 08:17 AM

                    I was just in tonight and the food is still very good. I had the 5 course "tasting" (where you choose any appetizer, two entrees, a cheese and a dessert for $50) which consisted of an excellent butter lettuce with lobster, the wonderful chicken on short rib hash, the pork, a small piece of Mobay (sadly, they were out of the Black Gold), and the always fun churros. Govind is still cooking and said that he hopes to have Miami (not yet open) up and running in about a month. He will be doing a fair bit of flying back and forth until it can stand on its own.

                2. jcwla RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 22, 2006 05:24 PM

                  From best to worst:

                  Table 8
                  Hatfields
                  Ammo
                  Providence

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                    russkar RE: jcwla Aug 22, 2006 07:29 PM

                    CORRECTION:

                    Providence
                    Table 8
                    Hatfields
                    Ammo

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                      jcwla RE: russkar Aug 22, 2006 09:30 PM

                      I stand by my assessment:

                      Table 8
                      Hatfields
                      Ammo
                      Providence -- the perfect place for pretentious poseurs

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                        russkar RE: jcwla Aug 22, 2006 09:43 PM

                        I remember now? You also liked SONA till about a year ago? Right?
                        We've been to Providence at least 25+ times , always Tasting Menus and almost always seated at the Chef's Table and the food has been spectacular, Everytime!
                        It is truly one of the best Restaurants in LA.

                  2. jcwla RE: Fozzie Bear Aug 22, 2006 10:46 PM

                    The first meal I had at Sona was great.
                    The second visit was nice also.
                    My third meal was awful and the fourth was fair to poor.

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                      russkar RE: jcwla Aug 22, 2006 11:07 PM

                      Same for us. Except the First Meal was only average plus. Then the real decline started. The 3rd time was my last but believe it or not I may have to go with one of my wine groups next month? Unless I can talk them out of it. Why me?

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