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Aug 16, 2006 10:03 PM

Asheville - 3 Questions

(1) What do Asheville chowhounds consider the best restaurants in town?

(2) Can you get good sushi?

(3) Do you have decent grocery stores selling quality produce, meat and fish, cheeses, etc.?

I may be moving. Thanks.


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  1. 1. by best do you mean fine dining? if yes I'd say Gabrielle's at Richmond hill Inn, Fig in Biltmore Village or 28806 in West Asheville
    2. Yes - Zen or Wasabi
    3. We have Ingles, Earthfare, Fresh Market...all carry organic, high end meats and cheeses. For best of Ingles its either Merrimon Ave or Long Shoals.

    1. best restaurants = salsa, limones, 28806, sunny point, tomato cocina... there are more; greater detail on what you're looking for would help us give recs (for instance, we have decent thai, but not so good chinese, and no vietnamese). i know it's irritating to get this reply, but a search will turn up quite a variety of posts on asheville.

      good sushi? yes. great sushi? no! i prefer zen sushi; they aren't quite so creative with roll combos, but i think they have the freshest fish & demonstrate the most consistent skill. (you will get better stuff if you know the proper names for things, rather than the americanized names. for instance, their menu lists "sushi" instead of nigiri; if you ask for nigiri, you'll get better fish with more attention to the composition.)
      i've found wasabi to be very inconsistent. sometimes it's very good, but i've also been served some of the worst presented and least skillfully prepared sushi there. there's a certain element of being downtown and seeing and being seen at wasabi, which to a degree accounts for it's popularity, and serves as a substitute for quality. i strongly suggest just ordering a couple pieces of nigiri first to determine if they're on their game any given day/night.
      heiwa is fairly creative with their rolls, but the quality of the fish is less than that of zen or wasabi.
      sushi in asheville takes a pretty steep nose dive from there.

      food shopping can be problematic (my point of reference is detroit, where i grew up; they have large polish, pan-arab, and italian, which i am, communities, among many others, and plenty of places cater to them). greenlife, earth fare and harris teeter are fairly consistent, but variety is an issue, and they can be pricey. ingles and bi-lo are ok, but stores vary greatly (some are really nasty), and you won't find anything exotic at either. excepting latin/mexican ingredients, ethnic stuff is hard to find here; mail-order is your friend. there's one pretty good asian grocer, and eastern european is represented, but i don't know how well as i'm not familiar enough with the cuisines. asheville sucks as far as meat is concerned; you'll get the occasional good cut, but it's very hit-or-miss, and doesn't even rival a mediocre butcher. larger cuts are easier to find than smaller ones; don't hold your breath for a properly butchered steak. common cheeses aren't hard to find, and the ference cheese shop out towards weaverville has a good variety of less common stuff. fish availibity isn't great; you can get decent tuna and other common fish at a variety of places, but less popular stuff will have to be procured through one of the few fish mongers, and they aren't very conveniently located (they don't have the greatest variety, but most will special order for you; make sure to check when they get deliveries, some have just one a week). good-quality, usual-suspect-type produce isn't hard to find, but more exotic stuff is. there are zero ethnic produce markets. on the plus side, asheville is a fantastic beer town with multiple breweries and good distribution of most local and other craft/micro brews. wine & spirits can be found, with better selection of the former, but they're pricey & heavily taxed; you're best off stocking up in south carolina. in short, you can usually find what you need, but it will require trips to multiple stores. i've lived here for nearly 20 years, and have learned to adjust by eating less home-made ethnic since ingredient availability is poor/inconsistent (although it has definitely improved over the years).

      1. Mark is always a good resource...Salsa's would be the best of casual funky Carribbean/Mexican/Island fare. Limones sets a pretty high bar as well for nice upscale dining. Cocina Latina/Tomato is pretty casual and simple Salvadorean fare - inexpensive and good though.

        1. Mark:

          Thanks for the exhaustive reply. Any particular part / side of town has the better groceries / beer & wine / restaurants (downtown excepted)?

          I'm pretty familiar with the downtown scene and always visit Salsas when I'm in town.


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          1. re: LPM

            the west side has a concentration of latin/mexican markets. it's also home to the only asian market and the eastern european markets. of course you can never have it all in that the fish markets are on the east side. the west side is also close to the farmer's market, although only the north side is really far from there. getting up to weaverville, which is to the north, for the cheese shop isn't difficult from the west or north sides.

            of the larger grocers, earth fare is on the west side (i think they have a location on the south side, too; not sure 'cause i don't go to the south side often as it has a lot of traffic issues and has seen a recent boom in chain retail & restaurant development). greenlife is near downtown. ingles is a good-size chain, and has stores all over; as noted above, though, quality of any individual store is questionable. harris teeter is on the southeast side. all sections of town have seasonal, small farmer's markets.

            local brews are widely available at locally owned bars/restaurants, although tracking down a favorite can be dicey. even some chains stock some of the more popular locals. some beers are available only on tap or in refillable containers at the brewery. bottled local beers are fairly well distributed to local grocers. greenlife (downtown), earth fare (west & south) and world market (south side) are good for more common wines and have ok prices. the wine guy (east side, might be another location) is good for harder to find stuff. i think there's a wine merchant downtown, too. abc stores, state run liquor stores, are in all parts of town, although it's difficult to find anything other than run-of-mill stuff.

            all parts of town have their high and low points. the west side, where i live and therefore know the best, is home to young families, singles & dinks. housing costs are lower. it's a little funkier and eclectic, and home to many community-oriented, you-can-make-a-difference types. there's a small but decent food scene w/ sunny point, 28806, tomato cocina leading the way. there's an ok bar scene w/ westville at the fore, followed by lucky otter and several watering holes. it's also a very walkable area of town. on the downside, our ingles are among the worst, and we have the highest crime rate.

            the north side is home to older money and the less ostentatious nouveau riche. it's also home to unca, so you have a lot of students there, although their average age skews north. decent restaurants are marco's pizza, noi's, zen sushi; i'm sure there are others i'm forgetting. the usual suspects, charlotte street grill, and asheville pizza & brewing are decent bars; the latter is also a $2 second-run movie house. drawbacks are expensive housing, traffic, and poorly-planned growth.

            the northeast side is where the mall is, so lots of chains & tourists. there's a really good ice cream shop, the name of which slips my mind at the moment, and sorrento's is another good place to eat. drawbacks = traffic, chains, tourists, crowded, over development.

            the east side is a paradox. it consists largely of pockets of the very well off and the fairly poor. also home to the biltmore estate, so lots of tourists. i don't eat in that area often as, in my opinion, places tend to be more expensive due to the tourist trade, and the quality is not equal to the cost. about the only place i go over there is texas roadhouse when i'm in the mood for ribs, don't have time to make my own, and can tolerate the atmosphere (which isn't a combination that occurs often). drawbacks are very expensive housing, pockets of poverty, tourists and traffic.

            the south/southeast side is home to the keeping-up-with-the-jones nouveau riche and lots of expansion. the area has seen a huge amount of very poorly planned growth with lots of chain retail and restaurants. i know i unfairly give short shrift to that side of town, but much like the mall area on the northeast side, i find the negatives heavily outweigh the pluses and rarely venture over there. i'm sure there are some decent eateries and bars, but i haven't a clue. drawbacks, which are about all i'm qualified to discuss for that area, are very expensive and often shoddily built housing, bad traffic, over development, too many chains.

            downtown is home to the greatest density of restaurants and bars. it's highly walkable, and fairly safe. local government and developers are doing what they can to gentrify it as quickly as possible, but there's still a good deal left of what makes asheville special. drawbacks are expensive housing or sordid housing if you want the cheap stuff. there are a lot of tourons downtown. parking is an issue if you don't know the area well.

            obviously, i've given you very small snapshots of each area. asheville as a whole is pretty eclectic, and you'll find a wide range of people in all areas. asheville has seen a lot of growth over the past two decades (and is forecast to see an explosion in the next one), but it has usually been poorly planned, and the infrastructure is severely lacking to accomodate it. on the plus side, there's quite a bit of community-oriented activity, especially on the west and north sides and downtown. there are many free outdoor events in various parts of the city, especially during the warmer months. it's a pretty small town, and while i bitch about traffic, and we do have some pretty major issues, it isn't that bad if you know when and where to go to avoid it; it's just a pet peeve of mine, much like the tourists who are also fairly easily avoided.

          2. Mark,
            Where is the Eastern European market in W. A'ville and do you remember its name?? I've been in Hendersonville for two and a half years and I didn't realize there was one up there. I'd love to seek it out. Thanks