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Tuller no more?

boy that came without warning...

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  1. tuller on court street?

    1. Yup, they had a "last day" sign on the window

      1. i walked in yesterday - there was absolutely nothing left on the shelves. i asked what was going on: apparently they are closing down for two weeks, and then reopening under a new owner. the word is "more prepared foods, less focus on the cheese"...

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        1. re: bothrops_asper

          I did notice one of Tuller's cheese gurus is now at Stinky Brooklyn, which is fine with me. Stinky is a far more approachable store, in my opinion.

        2. Could this be the first of many "Fairway" casualties? Stay tuned...it may not be pretty for Court Street once the specialty food stores feel the pinch of big-box competition.

          To their credit, the local folks like FishTales, the Pacific Street corner and Marquet carry equivalent-to-better quality goods than FW. It's where a price-war could, unfortunately, tip the balance.

          Funny thing is, Fairway can thrive in its Red Hook bubble as a one-stop-shop environment with parking lot, but if price and value are your key objectives, neighborhoods such as Brooklyn Chinatown (8th Avenue), Borough Park and Brighton Beach rule. Frankly, I see little difference between the boxes of Washington State cherries ($2.99/pound @ FW, browning and sticky, 3 pounds for $4.00 Chinatown) or Baby carrots ($1.00/bag most anywhere, $1.49 at FW)...those 50% - 200% differences add up folks.

          And remember, the splashy Fairway print-ad has, count 'em, about a few dozen weekly sale specials...local supermarkets typically have a few hundred! It still bugs me that FW's printer repeats the "Red Hook, NY 11231" address mistake over and over.

          Fairway is many things, including a recreational excursion and a place of refuge, a sunset-watching spot in the drop-dead view outdoor cafe...but continued patronage of neighborhood stores is no less significant.

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          1. re: Mike R.

            And let's not forget Sahadi's. I was in there on Saturday and there was no line at the cashier.

            1. re: dimples

              My recollection is that Sahadi's is always quiet on summer Saturdays. I'm guessing that after Labor Day the usual bustle will return.

              1. re: Marion Morgenthal

                yeah...i'm not too worried about sahadi's losing business, and i'm sure charlie isn't either. if you have any doubts, go back the first saturday of september around noon, and take a number...as for tuller, hopefully the new owner will stock laboratorio del gelato and a good selection of bread -- the only items i would occasionally rely on tuller for.

                1. re: bothrops_asper

                  1 Girl Cookies on Dean st. sells Laboratorio del gelato.

            2. re: Mike R.

              I don't think Fairway will take over food boutique sales. It may effect ir but consider a few things:

              1 There are many foodies who can't stand Fairway. Look no further than searching Chowhound archives for proof of that. These people will be loyal to whatever market(s) they've always been loyal to. I'm in between, having had lots of savings and mostly good food from Fairway and also being loyal to my local favorites.

              2 Shops on Smith and Court, the Heights etc will -always- have foot traffic from commuters who don't particularly feel like getting in a car, cab, bus to get to Fairway. Sure there are Red Hook foodies that shop at Fairway. But for the larger financial share of the market, these people live in the Heights, Boerum, Cobble, Carroll areas. They will shop locally.

              3 I for one, and maybe others, have no problem spening that 10-20% more to enjoy conversation and human intereaction with my foodstore managers and market employees. Sure I can save a load of dough at Fairway but small markets remind me of why I live in a borough like Brooklyn and not the burbs.

              I do understand that having 10-20% to spend on shopping local is a luxury. Who knows? If I lose my job, maybe Fairway will be visited more often.

            3. I believe that it may be a Stinky casualty more than a Fairway casualty.

              1. Maybe it's just a sign of the 'smithification' of the neighborhood. Smith is the place to be, with restaurants openning all the time, and even the Met market carrying organic foods and specialty cheeses. I think businesses on Henry are going to find it harder and harder to compete with so much more foot traffic on

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                1. re: bhill

                  I really don't see a " Smithification" of the neighborhood. If there were as much quality on Court as Smith then I'd walk to Court. Besides...there is -plenty- of quality on Court.

                  Also in regards to Smith, sure there are restaurants opening all the time but there are also restaurants -closing- all the time. ALL the time. I give Sapodilla til Christmas unless they get a godamn sign. But anyways...

                  Henry will suffer only as a consequence of being rude and unfriendly to non locals and non Italians. If they could open up to newcomers in gentrifying Brooklyn they could make way more money.

                2. Owner moved to California for better quality of life. Simple as that.

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                  1. re: overit

                    It's only as simple as that if you believe what the staff/new owner are saying.

                  2. godd riddance. they were snobs and overpriced.

                    1. I am a regular Fairway - Red Hook shopper. I only buy fish from Fish Tales. The quality and service are too good to switch. Tuller was very overpriced and service was not great. I have not checked out Stinky Brooklyn yet, but I will soon.

                      1. "Henry will suffer only as a consequence of being rude and unfriendly to non locals and non Italians. If they could open up to newcomers in gentrifying Brooklyn they could make way more money. "

                        As a native Brooklynite and someone who's family grew up on Union & Smith street this is a pretty offensive comment. Stores like Mazzola for example have made improvements to change with the times too. The way customers are treated also goes both ways. If you treat a shop keeper like a robot they'll respond that way. I've been in line enough times to see people on their cellphones not paying attention to girls on line calling next. They also spit out the orders with the same lackluster as being in Starbucks. I know everyone in Mazzolla and they know my daughter and husband and ask how they are everyday.

                        I've seen people come in handing a credit card for a $5 order and surprised when told it's cash only. One woman went so far as to ask where the policy is posted. If you want that experience then go someplace else because there will hopefully always be customers who appreciate the warmth, knowledge and smiles that only shopping local can provide.

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                        1. re: time2eat

                          Where in my post did I say anything about Mazzola? I too am a regular from the area ( almost 20 years) and also love their service and HATE those people you refer to. Please don't assume that just because I made a general comment about Henry street that I specifically made any comments.

                          Mazzola was never mentioned in my post.

                        2. I found Tuller to be way overpriced. And I'm usually willing to pay a premium for quality, but they were pushing it. Fairway is a trip (in more ways than one) but I will still be shopping mostly at Mazzola, Stinky, Sahadi, Fish Tales, Caputos, etc. and the supermarket on Henry. Wish I didn't have to walk all the way to Blue Pig for a really good ice cream cone (but I did it the other day and boy was it yummy!)

                          1. My reply was simply a statement about how a native Italian-American who grew up in the neighborhood could be offended by your comment about shop keepers not welcoming a "non-Italian". My apologies if that was unclear. Though you didn't mention Mazzolla, I used it as an example since it is one of the few stores on Henry Street left where the owners would even remember the old make up of the neighborhood. Naidre's, Crave, et al are all too new to fit into that category.

                            General comments can only lead to one making they're own inferences.