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Aug 8, 2006 06:37 PM

Is there no Chow in Arkansas?

There is no place of Arkansas on any of the local boards.
It isn't in Midwest, Southwest or South.

I think that the state should be covered somewhere, particularly with Northwest Arkansas being one of the fastest growing counties in the country (and urban foodies relocating/traveling on business there from all over the country, clamoring for good chow!).

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  1. Well, there were a few good places in Little Rock. I don't know where you'd post them one here though.


    1. Arkansas chow would be discussed on the South board.

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      1. re: The Chowhound Team

        thanks. It isn't listed in the states covered at the top, so I wasn't sure of where it would fall.

        1. re: The Chowhound Team

          ....and I will respectfully press again for maps. Visual aids, or even just text, might save us all a lot of grief.

          This would be especially helpful when a hound is attempting to post outside of home turf. For instance, I have no idea what "the outer boroughs" are. (Sounds like something from Tolkien) Likewise, someone from New Jersey might not know the boundaries of the Bay Area board (all counties contiguous to the SF Bay)

          ....anyone: are maps pending?

          1. re: toodie jane

            Detailed boundary maps are not pending. Drawing tight geographic lines doesn't work. People understandably don't pay close attention (they're just hastily surfing in for chow tips), and most of the misplaced postings are by newbies who are doing their level best.

            The periodic postings by the Chowhound Team redirecting posts to the appropriate board are seen by the hounds over time, and it kinda sorta more or less keeps stuff moderately organized in a half-assed sort of way, which is the best that can be hoped for in a large community like ours. To the very small minority who hang out on a day to day basis, this process might seem a bit dreary and inefficient. But through periodic reminders and traffic direction, new people get more or less synched into how we do things.

            We don't draw a super precise geographic lines, because we're not prepared to relentlessly brush back every single posting crossing those lines. We don't have time, we're not that anal, and it'd be super disruptive to the chow talk. So, as with all moderation issues, we do what we can and hope readers along pick up an understanding of our framework. The natural progression of online discussion is toward entropy, so we do have tides to stem, but the best way to do this sort of tide stemming is via little reminders and announcements. The whole thing works, sorta.

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          1. I understanding not drawing precise borders, but listing all 50 states wouldn't be a bad idea. Louisiana is also missing, although everyone just uses the New Orleans board for that state.

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            1. re: Frolic

              We're aware that some of the states aren't listed and will eventually clean all the descriptions up. Louisiana is discussed on South (not on New Orleans unless it's New Orleans specific). Oklahoma is discussed on Midwest.

              1. re: The Chowhound Team

                I've said it before and I'll say it again: it makes a lot more sense to discuss Louisiana on the New Orleans board. The foodways of southern Louisiana are unique in the U.S. and also from the rest of the South.

                Also, tourists normally lump Cajun and Creole food together. When they come to the New Orleans board looking for Cajun food, we direct them to places outside of New Orleans.

            2. From what I can tell, my home state of Oklahoma is no where to be found. You know these states exist, right?

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              1. re: Frolic

                I had e-mailed the moderators asking which board to post Tulsa on and the response was to try the Southwest board, but I ended up finding more responses on the South board... now it's supposed to be the Midwest board? Really confusing!

                1. re: Katie Nell

                  Yeah, from out here in the middle of the country it feels a typical New Yorker attitude. No need to pay much attention to the fly over states.

                  1. re: Frolic

                    Once again, as we stated earlier in this thread and state every time it comes up, please have patience on this front. We're aware that some of the states aren't listed and will eventually clean up all the descriptions. Making unfair assumptions about the development team and the way the boards are currently set up isn't going to move things along any more quickly. We value chow everywhere and are doing our best to build a site which works well for everyone.

                    We do apologize for the confusion on Oklahoma, Katie. It was your original request that prompted us to go back and re-address where Oklahoma should reside. We gave you a quick answer so you'd have somewhere to post your immediate request and then spent some time researching the issue and came to a different conclusion.

                      1. re: The Chowhound Team

                        I'm not making assumptions, I was just stating the impressions I got from your actions.

                        From a usability standard, I think the development team has created one of the most elegant and functional websites I have ever used.

                      2. re: Frolic

                        I think the "missing states" issue is less a result of any New York attitude and more a result of the way the board started and grew and the limitations of the old software.

                        CH started in New York and the rest of the country got added in as the site grew. The big cities got their own boards and regional boards got added as time went on. All of that was pretty much done based on site traffic and not as part of some master plan, It became increasingly difficult to add boards under the old software and at a certain point they just put a freeze over almost all changes. (The Home Cooking Board was the only major exception.)

                        Now that CH is running on new software I'm a little surprised that new boards weren't added either immediately or during the first few weeks. It shouldn't be hard to fix the most glaring omissions pretty easily.

                        People living outside the New York area shouldn't feel like they're being singled out - Connecticut and New Jersey, both big states, don't have their own boards either.