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Philly Foodie Staying in Montreal

Hello all,

I am excited to be visiting your city from August 18-20 (Saturday - Monday).

I will be staying at the Hyatt Regency.

I am looking for places to eat with my SO. We are young (25), on a budget and looking for some wonderful meals and cocktails (that's all that really matters, right?).

I've done a little research through Zagat and endless banquet, but would really appreciate local oppinions on where to go, how to get there and what to get!

We need places for breakfast, lunch and dinner - moderately priced with perhaps one meal a little more on the expensive side ($40 american dollars a person?). We are also looking for places to get drinks (interesting beers, cocktails) before or after our meals. We are both adventurous foodies but I AM A VEGETARIAN (no meat, no fish). I assume most french restaurants will be out, as they tend to lack vegetarian options.

Here are some places that looked interesting:

au petit extra
aux lilas
l'avenue du plateau
belle province
bily kun
cafe via dante
chao phraya
les chocolates du chloe
fairmount bagel factory
jean talon market
m sur masson
monte du lait
niu kee

Thanks in advance! I can't wait!

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  1. Desenetly go to Schwartz's for smoked meat. Avoid Ben's.

    Belle Province is good but it is a chain and can vary from location to location.

    Brutopia a personal favorite. Very good beer.

    For French try Le Paris. It is an institution. And it is near Brutopia.

    El Bustain is good if you feel like a falafel or two.

    1. I feel bad, but I don't eat meat. Would I still like these places?

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      1. re: saturninus

        Sorry missed the whole vegetarian aspect. But at least you still have Brutopia vegetarian or not the beer will be just as good!

        There are still plenty of options. Montreal is a very eclectic place. Many restaurants do offer decent vegetarian selections. Check menus of places that you are interested in you might have some interesting choices.

        Comesol is a chain of vegetarian buffets. It has some interesting dishes.

        Then there is the local favorite Café Santropol it is very good.

        There are many good Indian and Asian restaurants to chose from all of which have a very good selection of veg options.

        If you eat eggs Montreal loves breakfast/brunch there’s Chez Cora. And the classic Beauties...avoid Eggspectations.

        Hope this helps.
        Bon Voyage!

      2. As a vegetarian, you'll have a hard time finding a french restaurant that will suit you. There's a new place on St-Laurent that is vegan I think. The name eludes though and someone will probably come over to enlighten us.

        I would advise you to avoid La Belle Province as it's a cheap version of anything fast food has to offer. If you want to try Quebec's poutine, head for La Banquise on Rachel. If you only want a damn good burger and fries, then it's La Paryse on Ontario east near St-Denis, they have veggie burgers that are really good and home made.

        For breakfast, avoid L'Avenue as it's over priced and too crowded. Wal 10 more minutes to Laurier East and go to Café Byblos for iranian cooking that's vegetarian friendly, there's no meat on the menu in the morning.

        For drinks and good food, Réservoir is a very good option and not too far from Bily Kun to keep drinking afterwards.

        Marché Jean-Talon is a must with plenty of vegetarian options and near, on Jean-Talon, is Alep and Petit Alep 2 good restaurants with vegeterian options.

        If you go for bagel, head either for Fairmount or St-Viateur. St-Viateur has an outlet on the street of the same name and a cafe on avenue du Mont-Royal.

        I'd stray away from Bilboquet altough it'S quite good and head to Hâvre aux Glaces instead as it's at Marché Jean-Talon.

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        1. re: Campofiorin

          Good recs Campofiori. Maybe the vegan place on St. Laurent you're thinking of is Aux Vivres? I haven't been since they renovated, but they used to have a good BLT made with smoked coconut in place of the bacon (it's tasty, I swear) and the veggie lox sandwich is good too, despite tasting nothing like lox. The service used to be friendly but very slow, this may have changed since the reno.

          Campofiorin, I also have to disagree with your take on l'Avenue's breakfast, at least on weekdays. Saturninus, this place can definitely be very busy if you go post-11 AM on a weekend, but on a normal weekday I've never had a problem getting a seat. Try it on the Monday you're here. Fun, goofy atmosphere. As another young veggie on a budget, they have one of my favourite breakfasts. Some stuff is pretty expensive (though portions are gargantuan), but their standard two egg breakfast is, IMHO, one of the best in the city, and around 5 or 6 bucks.

          Your choice of thick sliced toast or bagel, GREAT blackberry jam, and you can sub a choice of cheeses for bacon/sausage. A bite of toasted baguette or sourdough, slathered with butter, and topped with a hunk of decent brie and that jam is very satisfying.

          I also think l'Avenue's breakfast potatoes are perhaps the city's best, and possibly least healthy as well. Drenched in butter and (I think) olive oil, lots of rosemary, and a satisfying amount of salt. I want some right now...

          Not far from Mont-Royal on St. Denis is Meu Meu, another good bet for iced cream, all natural and homemade. Try the caramel with black sea salt or Ricard flavours.

          Also, in response to other posters, I think Beauty's is, to be blunt, an overpriced tourist trap with very average food. I would avoid it.

        2. Wonderful, so my list has cut down! (a little bit)
          Here are the current places of interest:

          au petit extra
          aux lilas
          cafe santopol
          chez cora - breakfast
          beauties - breakfast
          cafe byblos - breakfast
          bily kun - drinks
          brutopia - drinks
          cafe via dante
          chao phraya
          les chocolates du chloe
          fairmount bagel factory
          marche jean talon - market, followed by
          alep - restaruant near jean talon
          havre aux glaces - ice cream near jean talon
          m sur masson
          monte du lait
          nui kee
          resevoir - drinks

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          1. re: saturninus

            I don't recall seeing any vegetarian options at Le Jolifou on my various visits there. And the pickings would be slim at Chao Phraya. Odd that 100% vegetarian ChuChai and adjoining Chuch aren't on your list. Ditto Les Chèvres and adjoining Le Chou.

            Brutopia is undoubtedly the best microbrew pub choice downtown but if beer's your thing you really owe it to yourself to drop by Dieu du Ciel.

            And while I don't know if it's a conscious choice on the owners' part always to provide the option, my dining companion had a gourmet vegetarian meal at Au Cinquième Péché last week.

            You could also put together a satisfying veggie meal at wine bar BU.


            If you haven't already, see also www.montreal.com/tourism/veggie.html

            1. re: saturninus

              I would also advise you to steer clear from Cora's chain breakfast and rather try Olive et Gourmando (closed on sunday) our Réservoir for brunch. I hihgly second carswell's recommandation for Dieu du ciel, besides, it's an easy walk from Byblos (about 15-20 mins). If you visit Byblos, walk on Laurier to Fabre street, you'll see on the sowuth west corner Maison Kakao which carries really good chocolates.

            2. Thanks for helping me further! A few questions:

              Is Resevoir more of a place for drinks or brunch?
              Does Dieu du Ciel brew it's own beer? The website looks lovely. What makes it different from Brutopia?
              What are the prices like at Les Chevres or Au Cinquieme Peche? They seem more expensive. We are looking to have one nice meal out that isn't crazy expensive. Which would be good?

              The refined list:

              Breakfast spots:
              Cafe Byblos
              Olive et Gourmando

              Places to visit:
              Maison Kakao
              Les Chocolates du Chloe
              Fairmount Bagel Factory
              Marche Jean Talon
              Havre aux Glaces

              Les Chevres/Le Chou
              Chu Chai/Chuch
              Au Cinquieme Peche
              Cafe Santopol
              M sur Masson
              Au Petit Extra
              Aux Lilas

              Dieu du Ciel
              Bily Kun

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              1. re: saturninus

                In response to your questions:

                1. Reservoir is a spot for either brunch or drinks, or maybe to combine the two! It's open for brunch, and then normal bar hours (i.e. until 3 AM). Very nice atmosphere, good house-brewed beers. I've never tried the brunch but the menu looks very interesting and I've heard good reports. Not dirt cheap, though. If it's any indication of the bruch's quality, the snacks they offer at night are very well prepared.

                2. Yes, Dieu du Ciel brews it's own beer (~ 5 kinds available at a time) and has interesting guest beers on tap. I like Brutopia as the only saving grace in the Cresecent bar scene, and their house brews are quite good. IMO, the main difference is that the atmosphere at Dieu du Ciel is nicer, and it is much closer to most of the other places you might be going. If you're near Brutopia anyway though, it's worth a stop. Standard friendly pub feel to the place.

                3. I very much doubt that you could get out of Les Chevres for $40 US, though Le Chou is definitely doable at that price. the menu is at http://www.leschevres.com/menus/lecho...

                Another option for a cheap veg french/bistro is Leméac's $22 after 10PM deal. You get an app and a main from a shortened menu, plus coffee or tea. There are are normally a couple of veg appetizer options and one veg main option. It's on Laurier.

                1. re: saturninus

                  Comments from a fellow veg and a Montrealer (despite the tag) on some spots on your current list:

                  Breakfast spots:
                  Beauties - yes, it is an institution, but I get annoyed waiting in line for food that is mediocre at best. Instead, go around the corner to Bagel etc. (St. Laurent just south of Marianne). Great breakfasts, amusing decor, and you can savour your meal without worrying the staff are trying to feed you quickly to seat another cover.
                  Cafe Byblos
                  Olive et Gourmando - yes, yes, yes, and for lunch too. Try the brownies. Seriously, it would be criminal to stop here without eating brownies. If you are full, buy some for later, you won't regret it.
                  Also try:
                  La Petite Marche - St. Laurent. Large breakfasts, many veg selections, lots of fruit.
                  L'Anecdote - Rachel and ??. Greasy-spoonish, but with great homemade ingredients. The fruit salad has good stuff in it (not just the usual cheap melons).

                  Places to visit:
                  Maison Kakao
                  Les Chocolates du Chloe
                  Fairmount Bagel Factory
                  Marche Jean Talon
                  Havre aux Glaces

                  Yes to all above. If you really want to do the bagel thing, visit both the Fairmount Bagel and St. Viateur (you can walk between the two) for at taste-test. You can then join in the great Montreal bagel debate.

                  Les Chevres/Le Chou - not as veg-based as it used to be, but there is usually one option on the menu. Pricy though. See some alternatives below.
                  Chu Chai/Chuch - good bet.
                  Au Cinquieme Peche
                  Cafe Santopol - sandwich / soup type place. If you go, try to sit in the lovely garden. I haven't eaten here in years, but the garden is a nice refuge. If you have rainy weather during your stay, this is a good spot to settle in for the afternoon with a book or newspaper and a pot of tea by the window.
                  Alep - yes, delicious. You can choose between the full resto and the smaller, cheaper Le Petit Alep.
                  M sur Masson
                  Al-Taib - not a high-end distination by any count, but I've sworn for years they have the best tabouleh (I've been known to make detours for it)
                  Au Petit Extra
                  Aux Lilas

                  For lunch:
                  If you are in the downtown shopping core (St. Catherine street area) and are stuck for lunch, skip the depressing mall food courts and try Le Commensal (upstairs at St. Catherine and McGill College)- veggie buffet style. Some love it, others don't go for the pay-by-weight syste, but it is better than anything else you'll find in the area.

                  Also try for dinner:
                  Brunoise - great food, flawless service. Always a veggie option on the menu, and in my opinion the best neighbourhood resto in the city.
                  Chez L'Épicier - if you find yourself in Old Montreal at dinner time, DO NOT assume that any old place will do... many serve less than stellar food, and rely on passing tourist trade. Chez l'Épicier is a notable exception, serving innovative market-based cuisine. If there isn't a vegetarian option on the menu that night don't worry. As long as you aren't particularly fussy, the chef will put together a vegetarian meal for you - I've been several times and have never been disappointed.

                  Dieu du Ciel
                  Brutopia - ok for beer, but I would skip the food.
                  Bily Kun
                  BU - the best wine-bar in the city. Always have interesting flights on offer. A good place to go for the evening, with nibbles.

                2. Wow, thanks again! I've really cut things down. Now I need to widdle my decisions into what to do each day: Friday after 3, Saturday (3 meals and drinks) and Sunday (breakfast).

                  For example, it sounds like a good idea to go to Marche Jean Talon followed by a quick trip to maison kako and then Alep followed by some ice cream at Havre aux glaces. Perhaps Friday early evening or Saturday?

                  I think that I would like the "nice meal out" to be Saturday night. Which of these restaurants would be best? Other than the one nicer meal, I want to keep prices moderate.

                  Can you help me organize these options into what would make sense for each day? Also, any reccomendations on things to see or places to shop during the days would be best! As a chowhound, food has been my priority, and I haven't thought at all about what to see and do! (:

                  Widdled down options:

                  Breakfast (only have time for 2):
                  Cafe Byblos - iranian cooking, veggie bfast menu
                  Olive et Gourmando - breakfast, lunch, brownies
                  Resevoir - nice brunch, also good for drinks (not found on zagat)
                  La petite marche - large bfast (not on zagat)

                  Places to visit:
                  Maison Kako (not on zagat)
                  Fairmount Bagel Factory - a late night snack?
                  Marche Jean Talon - wonderful market

                  Lunch (2):
                  Cafe Santopol - sit in garden, sandwhiches and soups (not on zagat)

                  Dinner(only time for 2):
                  Chu Chai/Chuch - veggie chinese?
                  Au Cinquieme Peche - not sure what they offer
                  Alep - delicious, not sure what they serve
                  Brunoise - best neighborhood rest, one veggie dish
                  Chez L'Epicier - Old Montreal, ask for veggie

                  Drinks (2):
                  Dieu du Ciel - best atmosphere, near other places
                  Brutopia - closer to hotel, good but not as good
                  BU - best wine bar, good for snacks
                  Havre aux Glaces (not on zagat)

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                  1. re: saturninus

                    "For example, it sounds like a good idea to go to Marche Jean Talon followed by a quick trip to maison kako and then Alep followed by some ice cream at Havre aux glaces. Perhaps Friday early evening or Saturday?"

                    Well, Hâvre aux glaces is within Marché Jean-Talon and Petit Alep and it's big brother Alep are basicaly across the street from the market. So you can try to get them all in the same visit, maybe early friday as the market closes at 8 or 9. Also note that Hâvre aux glaces does not have drinks aside from a hot chocolate with ice cream in the winter.

                    If you decide to visit Byblos for breakfast, Maison Kakao is on the next street corner. Walking east, you'll see Café Montréal and a florist next to it on the cross street, Maison Kakao is accross. Sorry, I live int he area so I don't notice the streets name and go on visual. I do believe it's on Marquette street though.

                  2. It sounds like that is what I will do Friday - visit the market, get dinner at Alep or Petit Alep (what is the difference) and get some ice cream at havre aux glaces. Is Dieu du Ciel or BU nearby?

                    Now what should I do Saturday and Sunday? If I eat at Alep on Friday, that only leaves me with one dinner. Which of these would you pick? I'd like to try different cuisines for my different meals.

                    1. Note that Olive & Gourmando is not open on Sunday. So if you plan to spend time in Old Montreal with a stop at O&G, you might want to do this on Saturday.

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                      1. re: Sam Ottawa

                        o&g sounds great. is old montreal a nice place to stroll around, sightsee and shop during the day? is that the best place to spend my saturday afternoon?
                        cafe santopol also sounded like another good options for lunch, although they are not on zagat.

                        1. re: saturninus

                          Don't bother using zagat for anything else than finding addresses and phone numbers, it's all it's worth. As for transportation. Montreal is a pretty walkable city but if you intend to leave the car for the weekend, then I'd recommend to use the subway which is much simpler than NY's. You can either buy six tickets for somethign like $12 or buy a weekly pass for a few bucks more. It'll get you most anywhere you want to go.

                      2. The diference between Alep and Petit Alep is only that Alep is a little more formal whereas Petit Alep is more of a cafe type of place. You chose the one you like the most. And yest both Bu and Dieu du ciel are not very far from there. Less than 5 minutes if you drive, about 20 mins if you walk and about the same amount of time if you use the subway. But you can also enjoy the market, stop for drinks on the way back to downtown and eat closer to the center.

                        1. Wonderful.
                          What is the best way to get around town? Are cabs costly?
                          In Philadelphia (as compared to NY) they are very reasonable. I am not very accustomed to public transport and was planning to leave my car in the garage for the weekend.

                          1. So this is what I am thinking:

                            Marce Jean Talon
                            dinner at Alep or Petit Alep
                            ice cream at havre aux glaces
                            Drinks at Dieu du Ciel.

                            Brunch at Byblos
                            chocolates at Maison Kako
                            lunch at o&g or cafe santopol
                            dinner at brunoise, chu chai, Au Cinquieme Peche or Chez L'Epicier
                            drinks at bu

                            Brunch at Resevoir

                            These seem like good choices, but I have no idea how far they are from each other. I would glady move things around for convience, such as going to resevoir for brunch saturday and going to byblos sunday.

                            Please help with your opinions!

                            I look forward to posting about my trip when I return.

                            Also, any reccomendations of places to shop/visit between meals would be great!

                            1. Your planning is really good and you won't be disappointed. But be advised that Byblos, Maison Kakao, Santropol, Au Cinquième Péché, Brunoise, Chu Chai and Bu are all in the Plateau Mont-Royal part of town and though some are easy walks, other are within at least 30 mins or more from one another. As for L'Épicier and O&G, they're on the Old Montreal part of town which is much further and not that walkable from the Plateau. What you can do thoug is have breakfast on the Plateau and stroll a round for a few hours and head down to Old Port and enjoy for the better part of the afternoon and come back on the Plateau if you chose to have dinner there and drinks afterward. I'd suggest you use maps.google.com with the various addresses to figure out distance between each place. For instance, Cinquième Péché is not that far from Bu (I'd say about 15 mins) but Brunoise is about twice as far.

                              If you end on Laurier East on saturday morning, you could go at Saveurs du Plateau (Not to be confused with the Saveurs restaurant acrosse the street) for macaroons, croissants or whatever pastries you feel like grabbing, they're all good. Along Laurier heading west there's Le Fromentier, a really good bakery, Olive et Olive, and olive oil store, le Fouvrac that sells a bunch a good stuff, Fous Desserts that sells really good pastries and chocolates and there's a nice park also. If you do go to Byblos, chances are we'll cross paths as we're there every week.

                              1. We ate at le Bleu Raisin last nite [8-10-06]. This restaurant is located on St. Denis, about a mile beyond the normal restaurant area.

                                The cuisine is French Market, with a concentration on local produce combined with interesting spicing. There is no menu, only a chalkboard with five appetizers and five entrees. Help was provided in broken, though charming, English. For appetizers we had delicious tomato soup and a sherbet liquor. [I don't exactly know what this was, but had two.] The main courses were an incredible sea bass and salmon. Both came with perfectly prepared vegetables. Other entee choices included venison, sweetbreads. Deserts were a standard creme brule and a great chocolate torte.

                                The food was prepared with care and creativity. The service was also exceptional. By the way, BYOB. There may be more expensive meals in the city, but I don't know if I'll find one better. Bon Apetit.

                                1. Just a few thoughts for your list. Chu Chai or the adjoining snackbar Chuch are great vegetarian options. My favourite dishes there are the tofu/cucumber/coriander appetizer, Pad Thai noodles and their mock satay. There is another vegetarian option close by on St-Denis, a recently opened Pushap restaurant with Indian and Mexican menu items, much of it also organic. Lots of flavour.

                                  You also might want to add the Cluny Artbar to your lunch list. They serve an amazing grilled vegetable salad and vibe and decor are great. It's on the outskirts of Old Montreal and it's very cool.

                                  Reservoir isn't especially vegetarian but lunch there is always exceptional. Not too far away also on Duluth is Soup Soupe and I think most of the soups are vegetarian.

                                  St-Viateur Bagel Cafe on Mont-royal is probably more fun than going to Cafe Santropol based on its location and then it is possible to have the famous bagels.

                                  1. Thanks for all your amazing help!

                                    Campofiorin, I just might bump into your next Saturday!
                                    So here is the plan:

                                    Friday: Marche Jean Talon, Alep, Havre aux Glaces, Dieu du Ciel

                                    Saturday: Byblos, wander around Plateau Mont-Royal, Olive et Gourmando, ChuChai, BU

                                    Sunday: wildcard

                                    I'm hoping to visit the Museum of Contemporary Art, Mont-Royal Park and the Botanical Gardens. Any reccomendations on when?

                                    1. Mont-Royal is kind a cool on a sunday as there's the "tam-tam's" which is basically a bunch of people that show up with various drums to jam for the better part of the day. Some booze and some illicit stuff (it's Montreal after all!) and good vibes. Good weather obviously helps. I haven't been there in ages though.

                                      1. I just got back last night and have lots to post!
                                        I should have my notes with me tomorrow!

                                        1. First off, thanks to everyone who helped me make this trip such a treat. My only regret is that I was so focused on food, I didn't get to do a lot of other things.

                                          So here we go:

                                          Friday late afternoon at Marche Jean Talon:
                                          A lot of the stands were closed, but the ones that were open had beautiful offerings of fruit, vegetables, cheeses, etc at very reasonable prices. $3 for a basket of tomatoes - amazing! In general every tomato I had in Montreal was of excellent quality.

                                          Quick stop at Havre au Glaces:
                                          We shared a small cup of framboise sorbet. Very sweet and tarte. Yummy but not mindblowing.

                                          Friday night dinner at Petit Alep:
                                          I immedietly preffered Petit Alep because it seemed more energetic. My favorite dish: mouhamara - tart, nutty, unlike anything I have ever had before. Also enjoyed a dish of labneh - an old favorite I haven't had in a while. We shared a reasonably priced caraffe of white wine. For my entree I had the pressed pita with epinards and cheese. The flavor of the spinach was excellent! Not sure what spices they used, but it was very flavorful but didn't linger.

                                          Friday night drinks at Dieu du Ciel:
                                          I ordered the Rigor Mortis Blonde, which I enjoyed but wasn't head over heels for (I've had better). SO ordered the McAuslan Stout and loved it. Great service, wonderful atmosphere. Large beers.

                                          Saturday Brunch:
                                          Went to Byblos. What interesting food! The owner immedietly reccomended the omlette with feta - excellent choice. SO decided to be creative and ordered some type of cream of wheat with turkey - he immedietly regretted not going with what I ordered. How do they make the eggs to soft? I already missed eating there the next day. I want to find eggs like that again! We also enjoyed our sweet bread with the pinapple giner and rosewater jams and my hot chocolate.

                                          Saturday lunch at Olive et Gourmando:
                                          After a few hours of wandering around Mont Royal Park and visitng Old Montreal (which was way too touristy - never again) we stopped in here. Expensive. I would say the only meal I found to be a bit overpriced. Yummy nonetheless. SO ordered the cuban sandwhich, which he noted had a delicious homemade mayo relish. I ordered the special soup - corn and potato, which was earthy and fresh. We left with a brownie in hand that we enjoyed later.

                                          Saturday night dinner at ChuChai:
                                          Very good meal and I wish I could go again. The tofu/cucumber/corrainder app that was reccomended was the star of the show. I enjoyed my mock shrimp with cashews and pinapple, although I wish I was less adventurous and ordered with tofu, as I rarely like mock meat. I REALLY enjoyed a glass of blanche de chamblis (sp?) with my meal. I'm sure it's comperable to coors light, but who cares? I have never had it before and enjoyed it's floral taste and tarte bite.

                                          And that's it!
                                          Thank you all so much!

                                          1. Thanks for the report Saturninus. Glad you had such a chowish good time in Montreal. It may please you to know that Blanche de Chambly (made by world-class microbrewery, Unibroue) is available in the States.

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                                            1. re: rcianci

                                              Last I heard, Unibroue's US distribution arm is called Unibrew.

                                              And Blanche de Chambly isn't really comparable to Coors Light. It's a Belgian-style ale (not an American-style pilsner), made from wheat (not just malted barley, though god only knows what filler grains and other additives Coors uses), flavoured with spices, light hops and probably some citrus peel (not flavoured with virtually nothing), refermented in the bottle (not single fermented in huge tanks), unfiltered (not having had the life filtered out of it), unpasteurized (not pasteurized), brewed in small batches (not gazillions of gallons) using a time-consuming process (not churned out with industrial efficiency) and produced in one location (not continent-wide) by an artisanal microbrewery (not a factory run by a giant corporation).

                                              1. re: carswell

                                                You forgot one thing: as real, living beer, it's *food*, not just a generic liquid-rental.

                                                BTW, Unibroue is owned by mid-sized Ontario-based brewer Sleeman, which has not meddled in production to any noticeable degree since the purchase. In turn, Sleeman is about to be swallowed by Sapporo.

                                                1. re: Mr F

                                                  >>You forgot one thing: as real, living beer, it's *food*, not just a generic liquid-rental.<<

                                                  You're probably right to point that out; I was thinking unpasteurized and unfiltered had it covered. Am pretty sure a nutritional analysis would show the BdC trouncing the CL in things like B vitamins.

                                                  Re your food comment. Did you know that Victorian nutritionists referred to beer as liquid bread?

                                                  The Sleeman takeover had local beer lovers shaking in their boots. Luckily our fears proved to be unfounded. Let's hope the same's true re Sapporo.

                                                2. re: carswell

                                                  Yep, found it: Unibrew USA, Inc.

                                                  Blanche de Chambly is one of my favorite beers. And yes, it's nothing like Coors Lite. I didn't think Saturninus was actually comparing the two beers as much as saying "For all I know, Blanche is probably some mass market product, but what the hell, I liked it anyway."

                                              2. I am so happy to hear it!
                                                I just didn't want to sound foolish, explaining how delicious this beer was when it just might be a run of the mill beer.
                                                Obviously my taste buds were correct.
                                                I am immedietly heading to our closest beer distributor (who carries 300 brews) and demanding a 6 pack of one of the best wheat beers I have ever tried.
                                                Thanks so much for everything. It was truly a culinary adventure.