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fantong Aug 4, 2006 06:17 PM

Whats great on the Italian food scene in Providence? Last meal I had at Epicurio was dreadful, food was medicore and the service indifferent. I've always had good meals at Pizzico but it's a bit boring... Need help.

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    Tsantiago Aug 1, 2008 07:48 PM

    Sierra. I have been making the rounds of PRO restaurants for a few weeks now - I've hit a lot - and I'd say Sierra is the best Italian I've tried. Someone else mentioned Zoomah; the best thing I can say about there is the gorgeous bartenderette who works there, but the food falls short. Sierra is rich and the food inventive, and the best test is to look at the crowds there on any given night while some Fed Hill restaurants sit empty. I could go on by my vote is Sierra. I think someone should mention Panne and Vino too, further down Atwells; I had a great meal there.

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      invinotheresverde Aug 1, 2008 10:08 PM

      I pretty much agree. Siera's great (although it gets ridiculously loud), as is Pane e Vino.

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        JaneRI Aug 4, 2008 06:08 AM

        Do you both mean Siena?

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          invinotheresverde Aug 4, 2008 06:58 AM

          Ooops. No more typing at 1:00 am for me!

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        Garris Aug 4, 2008 08:33 AM

        I agree on Siena, including about the loudness. Pizzico is solid, but a bit dull and slightly overpriced. As far as Italian, everywhere else is kind of lumped together in a big, "average" bin for me...

        I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I haven't tried Cafe Itri in Cranston yet...

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          JaneRI Aug 4, 2008 12:06 PM

          HUGE 2ND Garris!! That place has been on my radar for a looong time now, why haven't I been? That and L'osteria.

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            invinotheresverde Aug 4, 2008 12:59 PM

            You two have to check it out.

            Itri's not much for decor, but their huge wine list is cheap and I could eat pound after pound of their housemade roasted reds. Also, I'm happy to pay $5ish dollars LESS for pasta dishes that are far superior to, and larger than, Pizzico's. To top it all off, parking is easy and we've never had any service issues.

            This will be one of the places I miss the most come next week. :(

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              JaneRI Aug 4, 2008 01:34 PM

              Awwww, plan a daytrip that involves a shopping day at Benny's. ; )

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        JaneRI Aug 30, 2006 07:16 PM

        I reread and saw you said VERY surly - yup, that's correct!

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          JaneRI Aug 30, 2006 07:15 PM

          I went once to Casa Christine and it went beyond a bit surly - she was a b*tch. I'll never go back. I've had people say things like "oh, that's part of the charm of the place". Nuh uh, not for me.

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            RIEater Aug 30, 2006 05:40 PM

            I like Casa Christine on the Hill. I find Christine herself a bit off putting. She's very surly. But the food's very good traditional Italian.

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              bewley Aug 30, 2006 06:19 PM

              I’ve heard this as well, but I never went as I didn’t want to go to a place where the owner is known for her attitude.

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                CarolynLeslie Aug 1, 2008 07:51 AM

                We come to the Southern MA area every summer for a few weeks and always schedule in a trip to Casa Christine in Providence. We actually get a kick out of her telling people to "Go somewhere else" or "We're closed" (at 7pm), or "My husband is tired! He's OLD. The kitchen is like an oven." Their veal parm will melt in your mouth. The pasta is amazing. The broth from their steamed clams is impossible not to eat like soup. I can only imagine what their following would be like if they had a welcoming host or hostess.

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                bewley Aug 30, 2006 05:04 PM

                I’m going to say that Camille’s is pretty much the same as before. Yes, the chef is relatively new, but he was sous under the old chef and worked for a stint at the Pinelli-Marra places (as did his assistant). If he came from Italy, or even NYC, for that matter, you can say at least it’s new blood, but the menu and style are still old school. Nothing new to offer.

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                  JaneRI Aug 30, 2006 03:22 PM

                  I agree w/your assessment of Capriccio - I've never been impressed w/it. I'd say I agree w/your take on Camille's too, but does that apply to the "new" Camille's as well? (several yrs "new" now). I last went maybe 8 yrs ago and it definitely fit that descr.

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                    bewley Aug 30, 2006 03:20 PM

                    Yes, Capriccio is good (but very “old school”). Their menu is both extensive and expensive. It’s basically a throwback from the mid 1980’s: tableside flambé, tuxedoed waiters who up-sell, owners berating the harried staff; it’s quite a show. Camille’s, on the Hill, is similar in that they’re very old school, very Godfather.

                    I always wish Venda’s would stay open later, but it’s not a full restaurant per-se. It's considered more of a cafe.

                    I’ve heard good things about Medditeraneo.

                    Cassarenos’s and Andino’s are pretty good, but there’s no love in their food (or service).

                    Pizzico is a joke.

                    There is a place in Cranston called “Café Itri” which is excellent and their cuisine is up-to-date (unusual for Providence an its environs). I’ve heard that the owner/chef is quite meticulous and takes his craft seriously. Their menu and info can be found here:

                    http://www.caffeitri.com/

                    1. frankie Imbergamo Aug 30, 2006 02:22 AM

                      I would recommend capriccio's on pine st. in providence.
                      this place is very elegant and the food is awsome!! the atmosphere is comparable with the food--great chefs and a great wine list. This may be the best italian restaurant in providence--downtown!!

                      enjoy this outstanding restaurant!!

                      Frankie Imbergamo

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                        abstractpoet Aug 11, 2006 11:54 AM

                        Hmm. I just dined at L'Epicurio for the first time last night and greatly enjoyed my meal. I had a pork tenderloin dish, served with fava beans over a parsnip puree, that the waitress boasted was the best pork she'd ever tasted. It wasn't far off. The pork was incredibly tender, and the parsnip puree and fava beans added a complexity of flavors that I very much enjoyed. My wife had a veal bolognese that was also solid - simple, but very flavorful. The sauce garnished the fresh parpadelle without overwhelming it. We also had a lovely creme caramel for dessert.

                        Service was slow, but enthusiastic. We were the last customers in the restaurant and didn't feel rushed at all. The restaurant is a bit pricey, however, with entrees ranging between $20 and $40 each. Tasting menus start at $75 a person. Still, I was quite pleased with my dining experience and can see why Gourmet Magazine listed L'Epicurio as one of the top five restaurants in Providence.

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                          nidanlou Aug 10, 2006 02:40 AM

                          I and my Mother and Sister really like Zoomah. The food is good, and so is the wine list. More importantly, the portions are appropriate...they are not overwhelming; but, they are adequate. I have been a number of times and have enjoyed it each time. Also, the pizzas there are great.

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                            abstractpoet Aug 10, 2006 05:58 PM

                            I'd like to try the pizzas at Zooma if they're as good as people say (heard the pizza chef is either from Italy or at least apprenticed there). I went during Restaurant Week, though, and was disappointed, at least with the offerings available on the pre-fixe. Thought the pastas were oversauced and much, much too salty - more Italian-American fare than authentic Italian (as advertised). The only thing I liked was a very, very delicious bread pudding for dessert. Didn't compensate for the mediocrity of the rest of the meal, though.

                          2. cant talk...eating Aug 9, 2006 09:46 PM

                            I'll second the nod to Constantino's. (I'm far from an expert on the area, but have just sampled a few places along Atwell's with mixed results.) Been here twice and loved it both times. From the first visit, I remember the carpaccio, which was perfect, and a tagliatelle carbonara, with truly homemade noodles a rich egg-yellow color (can't really find this back in L.A.) I'd been thinking about that meal for weeks so was glad to return the other night, where we sat on the patio on a warm evening listening to a jazz duo and watching the people go by.

                            You start with warm rustic bread and a dish of olive oil, both of which arrived fast. [Actually, the service both times was excellent - they run a tight ship.] I ordered the spinach salad which was served with the leaevs lighly sauteed, along with another tagliatelle in a light porcini and prosciutto sauce. My SO ordered the gnocchi, (which I have to say, were not "fluffy" as described, but dense and chewy as they almost always are. But then, she's a vegetarian and used to being disappointed at restaurants : ). She started with a crostini topped with mixed mushrooms, which was rich, non-oily, and very tasty as we battled over the last of it.

                            Seating is 1st-come/1st-served out on the patio (we waited only about 15 min. on a Friday night), but inside you need reservations. Also, everyone at the table got pasta, which is in the $12-14 range - the meat and seafood dishes go well into the $20s, and I guess I'm still cheap.

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                              Sean Aug 9, 2006 12:19 PM

                              I have fond memories of Raphaels in downtown Providence, but have not been in a while.

                              http://www.raphaelbarristo.com/

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                                abstractpoet Aug 5, 2006 07:49 PM

                                I'm a fan of Cassarino's over on the hill (though I haven't been over there in a while) - nothing particularly innovative, but you get all your standard Italian American fare done well and at reasonable prices. Their pasta dishes are not bad, and they usually have a nice veal chop special (I like it with a side of broccoli rabe).

                                Some people swear by Mike's Kitchen, over in a VFW hall over in Cranston. Again, pretty standard Italian American dishes, huge portions at low prices, but you have to wait on line for like 45 minutes and the atmosphere is what it is (maybe a step up from a hole in the wall).

                                Pizzico, to me, is overrated and overpriced. If you don't mind driving a bit farther, to me the best Italian place in Rhode Island is Roberto's, down in Bristol. The pasta dishes are top notch (not oversauced and overly salty like most other Rhode Island Italian joints), and the Tuscan bread salad is to die for. The service is outstanding, too. Make sure you make a reservation, however, as the restaurant is tiny (maybe 10 tables total). 401-254-9732.

                                I don't know if anyone has checked out the restaurant portion of Venda Ravioli (only open for lunch, I believe). I've heard good things, but never managed to check it out. I have, however, been over to Constantino's (across the square and owned by the same people), and that was pretty good.

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                                  TPistrix Aug 8, 2006 02:20 PM

                                  Venda Ravioli has what I consider to be a very pleasant/traditional Italian lunch menu - light salads, scallopini, stuffed chicken breast, that kind of thing. It's a bit chaotic because you're literally eating in the middle of the market, but there's something very enjoyable about sitting at a small table and looking at the shoppers browsing the goods. The food is light and quite good, for a reasonable price. I think ideally, you'd probably want to be strolling around Federal Hill, perhaps shopping for some Italian goods, and have a nice lunch at Venda Ravioli. In other words, it's a great distraction and fun experience, but maybe not a destination in and of itself.

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                                    JaneRI Aug 8, 2006 04:03 PM

                                    Venda's outdoor patio however is one of the nicest spots to have lunch on the Hill.

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                                      TPistrix Aug 8, 2006 04:50 PM

                                      Ah. I would imagine so. To clarify as well, I greatly enjoyed my times going to Venda's. I think what made it most enjoyable was the spontaneity of it.

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                                    JaneRI Aug 8, 2006 04:04 PM

                                    Mike's Kitchen at the VFW Hall in Cranston is fantastic. Zero atmosphere though as you mentioned.

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                                      a l i c e Aug 10, 2006 02:27 AM

                                      Um...I would have to disagree about atmosphere at Mike's. Frankly, it just the kind of place on which Chowhound was founded. Any "lack of atmosphere" is in the eye of the beholder.

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                                        abstractpoet Aug 10, 2006 06:01 PM

                                        True, true. However, I found the necessity to wait for almost an hour offputting (the meal would have had to be truly spectacular to make it worth it), as was the abundance of extremely obese elderly people (but that's certainly not unique to Mike's Kitchen).

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                                          JaneRI Aug 22, 2006 07:24 PM

                                          I ate dinner at Mike's on a folding card table. Since the thread began w/some well-known fine dining spots, I don't think saying "zero atmosphere" is entirely off the mark, but perhaps I should have clarified that it has no fine dining atmosphere?

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