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Your Top Three Ethnic Dives?

echoparkdirt Aug 3, 2006 02:38 AM

Goin back up to SF and just wonderin what your top three ethnic dives are up there... :) Used to enjoy the Arab place in the Lower Haight that closed down (this was like 7 years ago) and the dumplings in peanut sauce at the Coppola chinese place...

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    hulasboy Sep 1, 2006 04:01 AM

    I forgot Soups!

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      Cynsa Sep 2, 2006 04:02 PM

      I think that Soups closed last year...

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        hulasboy Sep 3, 2006 03:04 AM


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      Lord Griffin Aug 31, 2006 12:51 AM

      Bodega Bistro - This qualifies as a dive mainly due to being in the tenderloin.

      Thai House express - great thai, tenderloin.

      Burma Super Star - kind of divy, but awesome food.

      Lahore Karahi - in the tenderloin and the best damn indian food in the city, bar none.

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      1. re: Lord Griffin
        Robert Lauriston Aug 31, 2006 01:24 AM

        Bodega Bistro's location is not the best but it's a pretty nice place, nothing divey about it at all.

        Thai House Express (Larkin & Geary) recently redecorated a bit (nicer furniture, better lighting?) and it doesn't feel as much like a diner. Nothing else seemed to have changed.

        Two of my favorite restaurants in SF.

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          ChowFun_derek Aug 31, 2006 03:50 PM

          Dive....Hole in the Wall......semantics.....
          It's still the Tenderloin....Hung Ky, Dottie's, Bodega Bistro....same thing...! (really like all 3 places though, and i will brave the T'loin to get there!

      2. Melanie Wong Aug 30, 2006 08:52 PM

        Naan n Curry moved into Taj Mahal's space. The place you might be thinking of in the Mission is Pakwan.

        1. ChowFun_derek Aug 30, 2006 06:28 PM

          Hung Ky is my absolute favorite...
          here's a link to a Chowdown thread


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            chaddict Aug 30, 2006 11:05 PM

            Hung Ky is one of my faves but it's not a dive. It's quite nice for a modest restaurant. Same goes for Shalimar mentioned abouve.

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              Robert Lauriston Aug 31, 2006 12:31 AM

              The Shalimar on Jones St. is a dive.

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                chaddict Aug 31, 2006 08:15 PM

                Ah, forgive me, Derek! I was thinking Sultan. Thanks for the correction.

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            hulasboy Aug 30, 2006 05:45 PM

            I haven't lived in SF for 6 years now, but this was my poor man eats good list I used to give to visitors.

            in the area that borders two neighborhoods, the tenderloin and knob hill, known as the tenderknob. at 532 jones, between geary and o’farrell, super cheap indian food, limited menu, be sure to order aloo parathas, you order at the counter, deli style, and pay when you are finished. it’s real greasy and tasty, sometimes all the food isn’t ready at the same time, atmosphere is “sweaty curry house”, i have seen fights in the restaurant.

            Tu lan
            in the heart of the 6th street skid row, the first block south of market, tu lan offers big greasy plates of vietnamese food. get the vegetable rice paper rolls to start. be careful not to slip on the floor. do not leave your bicycle unattended, even inside the restaurant. admire julia child’s photo on the menu.

            Taiwan (now defunct)
            at the corner of broadway and columbus in the area of the north beach/china town border known as vagina town because of the dense population of strip clubs in the immediate area. this chinese restaurant offers a $3.95 lunch special, and although i eat here everyday for lunch when i am at work, i always order the “combination vegetable soup noodles” at the rock bottom price of $3.25. if you sit at the counter you can watch the chef cook work his magic over what appears to be a direct gateway to hell.

            Taj Mahal
            398 eddy @ the corner of leavenworth in the tenderloin. this restaurant offers a larger menu than shalimar, table service, and is amazingly even cheaper than shalimar, formerly thought to be the cheapest restaurant in the world. taj mahal also offers an all you can eat lunch buffet for $5.95 a head. however, the aloo parathas do not compare to shalimar's. those are the facts.

            El Farlito
            at the corner of 24th and mission, my favorite mexican spot for the $1.35 beans and rice option. also fresh carrot and orange juice, don’t get the burritos, they are sort of bland, but the tortas are delicious. load them up with plenty of the green salsa from the salsa bar, and don’t miss the cebollitas, (grilled scallions) with lime.

            mission at 19th. i think cancun is a shitter, because the beans always taste burnt to me, but it boasts the title of best vegetarian burrito in the city. and every dirt seems to swear by it. it is cheap, i’ll give it that, and that’s about all i give it.

            Maya (now defunct but the related Azteca is still on Church near 16th)
            at the corner of 16th and guerrero. this is my vote for best vegetarian burrito in the city. chose either the tofu burrito, with or without nopales (cactus) or if you would like to take a nap directly after your meal, treat yourself to a chile relleno burrito. you will be in a ecstatic coma.

            Pakistani Restaurant I can't remember the name of.
            It's right near the old Maya location at 16th and Guerrero. A Mission location of a Shalimar style Pakistani/Indian place, very tasty, but new since I left SF, so I can't remember what it's called.

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            1. re: hulasboy
              Robert Lauriston Aug 30, 2006 06:17 PM

              There are maybe 20 Shalimar-type places around town these days.

            2. RWCFoodie Aug 5, 2006 12:19 AM

              I'd like to nominate DeeDee's Indian Buffet, Groceries and Chaat Corner on Middlefield in Mountain View.

              This is a small, vegetarian/vegan place in a sort of dilapidated mini-strip mall on Middlefield Rd. I found it by accident the other day and decided to give it a try.

              I wasn't hungry enough to have the $6.99 lunch buffet so I had Dahi Puri ($3.49) and a Mango Lassi (can't remember price). I've had the same dish at Amber's fast food place on El Camino and I can tell you that this one was much better and the people were much friendlier too.

              DeeDee's is an interesting little place and I look forward to trying out more of their menu.

              Check out their website: http://www.mydeedees.com/restaurant.html

              Edit: I just remembered that DeeDee told me that they make an effort to not over spice their dishes and they also try to keep relatively low fat...

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              1. re: RWCFoodie
                katya Aug 7, 2006 08:06 PM

                I recall that Deedee's had a really excellent aloo naan, in which naan is filled with potato (and some spices).

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                  RWCFoodie Aug 7, 2006 11:56 PM

                  I see an Aloo Paratha on the menu but no naan of any kind... have you tried anything else there?

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                    katya Aug 8, 2006 07:32 PM

                    It's been six years. It was probably aloo paratha. I honestly don't remember what else I tried.

              2. pane Aug 4, 2006 09:33 PM

                Loi's, on Irving at 23rd. Vietnamese with exceptionally delicious charred pork bun. It's a dive because: there are about six tables, a kitchen-sized tv plays in the background for the indifferent server to watch between slamming your pot of tea or bowl of noodles on the table, and you can get a sizable dinner for two for under $15 (with tip).

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                  China Aug 4, 2006 01:03 AM

                  I second Tikka Masala. (although I'm still not sure what we're calling a dive, its more of a family place run by two brothers than a dive.) The tandori quail rocks, as does the cilantro chutney. Much less oily than Nann and Curry as well...

                  1. Gary Soup Aug 4, 2006 12:52 AM

                    Only 3?

                    Taqueria Cancun, the 5th & Market Branch -- looks like the indoor re-creation of a taco truck.

                    Star Lunch, Jackson above Kearny. About 10 stools at the counter and that's it (but good stinky tofu).

                    Tea Garden, Mission west of first. Definitely a dive by neighborhood standards, featuring excellent Taiwanese beef nooodle soup.

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                      Maya Aug 4, 2006 12:41 AM

                      What's your definition of a "dive"?

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                        Scott M Aug 4, 2006 09:36 PM

                        and how does a "dive" differ from a "hole in the wall" :-)

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                          psb Aug 5, 2006 04:17 AM

                          Availability of malt liquor?

                        2. re: Maya
                          withalonge Aug 7, 2006 08:21 PM

                          this is my favorite website for dives in and around the silicon valley... (doesn't include Sf however). but it rates dives... stopping at the point of a place nice enough to take your mother.

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                          MuppetGrrl Aug 3, 2006 10:14 PM

                          Tu Lan at 6th & Mission.

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                            rootlesscosmo Aug 3, 2006 10:01 PM

                            El Nuevo Frutilandia, 24th St. between Harrison and Folsom, San Francisco. Go on Thursday for the bacalao special.

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                              chaddict Aug 3, 2006 10:05 PM

                              I love this place! Quite nice and clean. But I thought the Thursday special was the Chicken Fricasse (which I love)?


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                                rootlesscosmo Aug 4, 2006 01:30 AM

                                You're right--Bacalao is on Friday. (Vatican II or no Vatican II...)

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                              neenah45 Aug 3, 2006 07:43 PM

                              I like Tikka Masala (Indian) on 6th and Judah, Taste of the Himalayas (Nepalese) on Lombard near Divisadero, Golden King (Vietnamese) on Clay and Grant. All are cheap, hole in the walls with delicious food!

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                                Sixy Aug 3, 2006 07:05 PM

                                The only Dive I go to with regularity is Shan on 3rd street,
                                which is fine, but the food is just kind of average, nothing more or less than you would expect from this kind of no frills Indian place.

                                Here are a couple of local dive food websites it might be worth reading through for some other ideas:


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                                  Robert Lauriston Aug 3, 2006 07:07 PM

                                  Shan closed, will reopen as a Naan 'n' Chutney.

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                                    Sixy Aug 3, 2006 07:20 PM

                                    NO WAY!
                                    I was there just a couple of weeks ago the last time.
                                    damn it.

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                                      Amahal420 Aug 3, 2006 11:29 PM

                                      Have you ever been to the Haight st location of Naan'n'Chutney. If so, what is your take?

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                                        Sixy Aug 4, 2006 01:21 AM

                                        one thing is for certain - parking will be easier in the SoMa location.

                                      2. re: Robert Lauriston
                                        Sixy Aug 5, 2006 05:58 PM

                                        I drove by Shan last night.
                                        It looked very open and it still had the huge shan sign outside.

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                                          rworange Aug 5, 2006 07:05 PM

                                          Are you sure it is not the new place or they were doing work to open the new restaurant. I was there last Saturday and saw the notice on the door.

                                          If the new restaurant is a little bare-bones type of place, it might take them a while to remove that big sign outside ... if ever.

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                                            Sixy Aug 8, 2006 07:18 PM

                                            i drove past again, and noticed there is a sign on the window but that it does appear to be open. will cehck it out soon

                                    2. Robert Lauriston Aug 3, 2006 04:54 PM

                                      Truly Mediterranean

                                      Taqueria San Jose (the one by 24th St BART)

                                      I'd say Saigon Sandwich but haven't been there since the recent rash of downhill alerts.

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                                        Offal Lover Aug 3, 2006 04:09 PM

                                        Interesting that in the bay area we don't consider vietnamese, chinese, japanese, indian and mexican food ethnic anymore..:)

                                        We are so lucky.

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                                        1. re: Offal Lover
                                          Ruth Lafler Aug 3, 2006 06:56 PM

                                          Dol Ho. That's Chinese and while not exactly a dive, most certainly a hole-in-the-wall.

                                          If you want a literal hole-in-the-wall, try La Torta Loca in Oakland (on International in Fruitvale). It's a counter on the front wall of a laundromat (although they now seem to have a couple of tables just inside the laundromat).

                                        2. wchane Aug 3, 2006 03:45 PM

                                          Kaygetsu - Japanese - Kaygetsu.com
                                          Bissap Boabab - Senegalese - BissapBaobab.com
                                          Chelokababi - Persian - Chelokababi.com

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                                            chaddict Aug 3, 2006 04:45 PM

                                            Looking at those websites, I would hardly call those restaurtants "dives." Heck, the fact that they have websites kinda pushes them out of dive territory.

                                            But that Japanese restaurant looks great. Those prices are way too high to be considered a dive. Any recommendations on what to order? Thanks!

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                                              willowg Aug 4, 2006 01:27 AM

                                              Go all out, get the kaiseki menu.

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                                                wchane Aug 4, 2006 02:45 AM

                                                yeah. or a la carte...i learned from here you can put together your own kaiseki meal form the menu and it'll cost you maybe 2/3 the kaiseki...HOWEVER...you're going to leave wondering what you missed. go all out. just do it.

                                                i almost forgot: spice hut in sunnyvale, ca - indian food...i'm going to go there now. =) mmmMmmm...

                                            2. re: wchane
                                              willowg Aug 4, 2006 01:23 AM

                                              Wow, you must be extremely wealthy if you consider Kaygetsu a dive.

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                                                wchane Aug 4, 2006 02:43 AM

                                                i have to admit...my reading comprehension faulted during this post. they are definitely not 'dives'

                                                so..new list:

                                                sushi maru - sunnyvale, ca - japanese
                                                rose market - mountain view, ca - persian
                                                yiassoo - cupertino, ca - greek
                                                lucy's cafe - cupertino, ca - chinese
                                                ogi-san ramen - san jose, ca - ramen : this place is actually quite horrid, but i live really nearby so i literally walk there when i don't want to think. it's edible, just don't go there on my account.

                                            3. chaddict Aug 3, 2006 01:33 PM

                                              Yamo, Yamo, and Yamo. OK, Yucatasia as well. Yamo (Burmese) is on 18th, btwn Mission and Valencia. All entrees are $5.25. Get the Yamo cold noodles or any of the fish dishes, tea salad. Yucatasia is on Mission bwtn 17th and 18th. That chicken leg (also used to make the banh mi) is killer!

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