Dessert: A confession ...
The (now closed) thread one what foods we don't like that everyone else does got me thinking.
And I started thinking that I don't consider "dessert" chow.
Which is not the same thing as saying I don't like dessert or don't have a sweet tooth sometimes. I like chocalate and I like pie -- I like cake and cookies.
But I would never choose a restaurant because of their desserts, never try a new restaurant because of their dessert reputation.
I've never tried a bakery cupcake and have no interest in the fad. I don't know what red velvet is -- at least I don't think I do.
Left to my own devices, I really never order dessert. Sometimes the wife will want something and I'll take a bite.
I'd rather have more dinner than dinner and dessert if I "have room."
Not sure why this is. My dad, when I was a kid, had limited interest in dessert. He'd head back to the kitchen for leftovers, before he'd snack on dessert. Even today he'll eat a little ice cream after dinner, but he doesn't all the time.
At home, if there are cookies in the house, I might eat a few while watching tv or reading, but I hardly ever buy them when I'm shopping. (An exception: I went through an Uncle Eddie's Vegan Cookie phase and ate them by the bagful.) The most likely time for me to want dessert is after eating something spicy during the meal.
But the frequency of my desiring sweets is not as much the issue (the craving comes and goes) so much as I don't care too much about the quality of the sweets I eat. Store bought chocalate chip cookies suit me fine. And it's not as if I can't tell the difference -- I know when I'm eating a quality baked good, for example -- it's just not a big deal to me.
Not sure if I'm asking a question, making a statment or seeing if anyone else feels like I do. Just wanted to get if off my chest.
And I guess I'm curious to know if there are others who love great chow, but who are really not at all particular when it comes to desserts, others who equate chow with "food" and not "snacks."
(That last remark is telling to me, as I wrote it without thinking. From somewhere inside me, I consider desserts "a snack" and everything else "food" with all the positives and negatives attached to those comments. Thanks for listening.)
We rarely have dessert. My Dh grew up with having it every night. His mother has a huge sweet tooth sucar craving. My family rarely had it, just on special occasions. It never got to be a habit with me and my Dh has never complained.
I'm in this camp. Sometimes in Philadelphia (where my DH and I live) they run specials for three course fixed price meals. They just never appeal to me or feel like a good value b/c I would never have dessert anyway. I can count on one hand the number of times my husband and I have ordered dessert out, and we have been dining out together for 7 years. In fact one time we were out for sushi, and our server asked my husband if he would like dessert -- he said yes, I'd like a california roll.
I believe most people fall into one of two categories. Either savory or sweet. There are many people who have little interest in desserts and unless offered to them, doesn't even cross their minds to eat them.
Then, there are people like me. I truely enjoy a well prepared meal, but ooohhh, when it comes to dessert...Well, let's just say, necessary does not describe the desire.
re: chocolate chick
I kind of agree. Not that everyone can't appreciate or even love both, but visceral cravings seem to coalesce in one direction or the other. The cravings I get are for salty, savory carbs; at restaurants, I'd way rather have another app or a side than dessert. I'll always read the dessert menu for fun, but rarely am I moved to order something off of it. If I am it usually involves nuts.
I'd rather have dessert at tea time--say 3 or 4:00 in the afternoon. It's then that I have a relatively empty stomach, and appetite, and need a pick-me-up.
After a heavy or rich meal, I don't think I can appreciate a great dessert. I'm too full, and sensory overload prohibits full enjoyment.
Two or more hours after an evening meal, if it's not too late, is my ideal time if having dessert after dinner. Otherwise, tea time.
re: toodie jane
I adore dessert... but I almost never have it right after dinner - I can't appreciate it when I'm already full! My ideal time for dessert eating, like Toodie's, is either three o'clock in the afternoon when I want a pick-me-up, or two to three hours after I eat my dinner.
(and apols for posting to such an ancient thread - I have no idea why it appeared in my browser as a 'new' message when it's three years old!)
Wow. To me this is a foreign concept - no desire for dessert? You can take or leave chocolate chip cookies? Even freshly out of the oven, still warm and gooey, just barely falling apart? To me, it is a neccessary part of life.
When I go out for a nice meal I will *always* order dessert, sometimes making the selection before the main course. I scan dessert menus even when I am not having dessert, just to feast my imagination. I will make a special trip to Netty's just to get that warm delectible chocolate almond bread pudding.
It just never entered my mind that there are people out there who just don't care for dessert. I just figured those who didn't indulge were just on a diet!
That's what I find so interesting.
It's not that I don't care for dessert -- I'd probably love that pudding.
I just don't care about it that much.
What got me thinking about it was all the posts about the cupcake places on the LA board. I don't doubt I'd like the cupcakes at some of these places, but the last thing I'd think about doing is going someplace just to try them.
I'd drive across town for a fish taco or that perfect order of chili fries and I dream about sushi places I can't afford to go to.
But dessert-y places? No real interest.
Yep, I'm totally with you and understand your OP, PaulF. Take Micako's cookie example—would they smell and look good? Of course. But would I absolutely have to have one if I weren't actually really hungry? No, as others are saying here too. Compare to, I dunno, hot bubbling spinach-artichoke dip coming out of that oven with some sort of hot fresh herbed flatbread. Then you can forget it, no matter how full I am, I'm all over it.
I'm with you. My mother always made chocolate chip cookies and apparently I became bored with them. It's not that I hate them, but I can definitely leave them alone. I don't have much of a sweet tooth even though I love to bake.
Salty things tempt me more. I worked in a restaurant where they roasted ducks and pulled the meat off the bones to use in a stirfry -- thus when they came out of the oven with that crisp skin that would get thrown out I could never resist pulling off some for a snack.
I am the same way, for me the meal isn't complete without dessert and coffee. Frequently I will at the dessert menu first sometimes even choose my other courses based on it. And on more than one occassion I have ordered 3 desserts (two to eat at the restaurant and one to take home).
Dessert doesn't have to be a gooey chocolate concoction or a creamy creme brulee. If offered I usually go for a nice cheese plate which in my opioion is more "savory" than "sweet".