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best ice cream?

raybird Jul 19, 2006 09:18 PM

i recently had the most wonderful, classic chocolate ice cream - but it was in savannah, georgia!

the best ice creams i can think of in the city are gelati, like il laboratorio and ciao bella. i also like brooklyn ice cream factory, but it doesn't compare to the stuff i had recently in savannah. so what is the best old fashioned, hard ice cream around?

look forward to hearing!

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    Lucia RE: raybird Jul 20, 2006 04:27 PM

    I'm still looking myself. Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory, Mary's Dairy, and Emack & Bolio are all good, but I haven't found anything great.

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      duranie70 RE: raybird Jul 20, 2006 08:12 PM

      Eddie's Sweet Shop (marshmellow sundae w/ pineapple pistaccio icecream and a vanilla egg cream- outta this world delicious!)
      Forest Hills, Queens, NY

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        hugeglutton RE: raybird Sep 18, 2006 12:18 AM

        Try Cones, an Argentinian ice cream place: 272 Bleecker St (between Morton Street and Jones Street). Although I think they really excel at sorbets (the pear is delicious), their ice cream is also very good.

        1. rockchick RE: raybird Sep 18, 2006 08:12 PM

          Cones isn't hard icecream, but it is some of the best gelato you can have in the city. They also make it fresh daily!

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            designerboy01 RE: rockchick Sep 22, 2006 04:52 AM

            I second cones.

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              NYCviaPDX RE: designerboy01 Jan 14, 2007 01:27 AM

              Cones is super yummy! The Dulce de Leche is fantastic, especially paired with dark chocolate. In the summer there is no place better for sorbet. Try the passion fruit and Andean Blackberry.

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                daniellaczar RE: NYCviaPDX Feb 18, 2008 11:43 AM

                yes!!!!!! that is the best!! the dulce and the dark chocolate. normally, i don't even like dulce de leche, but tried it b/c it looked so good. it was amazing!
                the rasberry sorbet is excellent too, very refreshing on a hot summer day. don't bother w/the sorbet or gelato from those places on the street (rocco's, bruno's?)- you'll be disappointed.
                i just wish cones was cheaper.
                and Il Laboratorio de Gelato black mission fig is the best gelato ever.
                chinatown ic factory and sundaes and cones (these places taste very similary, maybe the same owners) have a lot of interesting flavors, but their ice cream is too sweet and gooey for me.

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            breadnchocolate RE: raybird Sep 20, 2006 09:51 PM

            chinatown ice cream factory on bayard (one south of canal) near mott/mulberry. they are the best. i love the almond cookie flavor. they have tons of other "regular" flavors such as lychee, red bean, taro, pumpkin, mango etc. and "exotic" flavors such as mocha chip, mint chip, peanut butter, ect. (their designations not mine) be warned though - take out only.

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              lbw RE: breadnchocolate Jan 3, 2007 09:21 PM

              I second chinatown ice cream factory. You MUST try the "Zen Butter" - amazing.

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                bobodl RE: lbw Jan 12, 2007 10:31 PM

                Chinatown Ice Cream Factory-Lychee is my favorite!!

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                  saritaeatsnyc RE: bobodl Jan 12, 2007 10:48 PM

                  i wish i could understand why people like chinatown ice cream factory. i tried their red bean ice cream (one of my fav flavors anywhere) and it was absolutely disgusting. really grainy and icy. it was quite possibly my worst ice cream experience ever.

                  my vote is for brooklyn ice cream, which is absolutely the BEST ice cream ive ever had in my life.

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                    chowmeow RE: saritaeatsnyc Jun 16, 2007 07:30 PM

                    I'm not a big fan of C-town ice cream factory's traditional Asian flavors. I agree that the red bean is grainy and icy. But their pumpkin pie rocks!

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              isabellaflynn RE: raybird Sep 22, 2006 04:46 PM

              I like Il Laboratorio de Gelato in the Lower East Side, as mentioned previously - Creme Fraiche was out of this world. I also really like the Chinatown Ice Cream factory - unusual flavors are excellent - my personal favorite is the green tea/lychee.

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                frankbooth RE: raybird Nov 30, 2006 12:51 AM

                Brooklyn Ice Cream Factory- banana split from heaven... enjoy fb

                1. jenniebnyc RE: raybird Dec 5, 2006 01:58 AM

                  manhattan fruitier serves some great ice cream
                  try the banana lace


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                    jes RE: raybird Dec 10, 2006 04:00 PM

                    Max And Minas in Queens for hard ice cream.

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                      Chef Z RE: raybird Dec 11, 2006 02:53 AM

                      There's a great place on 10 st. between 3rd and 4th aves called Sundaes and Cones. It opened up this past summer. I'm wondering if it's related to the Chinatown Ice Cream Factory because they have a lot of asian flavors. Either way, great, rich ice cream. Last time I was there I got something called (I think) an ice cream float: a shake made of one flavor with two more scoops of another flavor in it. I split it, but damn that was good.

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                        beckish RE: Chef Z Jan 8, 2007 02:36 AM

                        I second sundaes and cones and highly recommend the wasabi and the black sesame ice creams. the wasabi gets hotter as you eat it.

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                          bluishgnome RE: Chef Z Jun 6, 2007 08:13 PM

                          Black sesame IS good! But that taro flavor is even better.

                          And yea... I think this is related to one of those Chinatown ice cream places... it reminds me of the place on 8th Ave in Brooklyn that closed years ago.

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                            ajgnet RE: Chef Z Jul 26, 2007 09:09 AM

                            Sundaes and Cones is my favorite spot for ice cream. For some reason, I can never seem to leave with anything other than traditional vanilla and rainbow sprinkles :-\. I like to try samples of a few new flavors every time ... but when it comes to an entire cone, nothing hits the spot like vanilla.

                            I'm not a fan of Brooklyn Ice Cream factory nor Mary's Dairy. I found both of them to be too creamy and, for someone who pretty much only eats vanilla, I couldn't taste the bean so much as I'd have liked.

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                              Travels4Food RE: ajgnet Feb 7, 2008 03:21 AM

                              Sundaes and Cones is some of the highest-quality ice cream I've ever had. The black sesame was SO intense! And the green tea, which is usually a favorite, was actually too strong for me.

                              Cones would be my other favorite in the city, but I must confess...Ben & Jerry's just put out a chocolate peanut butter ice cream that is kind of to die for - chocolate ice cream with both chunky and creamy, salty peanut butter. It's outrageous if you're looking for heavy, classic ice cream.

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                            raybird RE: raybird Dec 11, 2006 01:12 PM

                            i am still on the hunt for a great old-fashioned hard ice cream (like leopold's in savannah)! in part, i wonder if it is difficult in new york city to keep ice cream cold enough to make it this particular way? just the sheer volume of people (customers) and the demand on electricity might be limiting. that's my new untested theory.

                            i recently tried maison du chocolat chocolate ice cream - it was more like gelato really - and it was terrific!

                            ALSO - very recently at cones - kumquat and johnny walker scotch flavor gelato! amazing! it's double the cost of any other flavor and a dollar for a taste but it's so worth it.

                            1. ballulah RE: raybird Dec 11, 2006 05:34 PM

                              Sedutto's ice cream was always my NYC favorite, but it's hard to find a dedicated Sedutto's ice cream parlor. If anyone knows of one, I'd love to know where!

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                                marlie202 RE: ballulah Dec 25, 2006 01:03 AM

                                I love Sedutto
                                's ice cream too-I believe it is made in San Francisco-I was there a while back and for a short period of time they made coconut fudge which was incredible--where can I get some Sedutto's please???

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                                  Brian W RE: ballulah Dec 28, 2006 03:20 AM

                                  There is a Sedutto's on 1st Ave between 78 & 79 Streets.

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                                    ballulah RE: Brian W Dec 30, 2006 03:47 AM

                                    There used to be a Sedutto's on 112th and Broadway, but I'm not sure it's still there. I've seen it in other places that are not Sedutto's ice cream parlor's exclusively.

                                    Their pistacchio ice cream was the best I've had since I was in Venice.

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                                      Lucia RE: ballulah Dec 30, 2006 02:27 PM

                                      It's not--it's been gone for a while.

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                                        Brian W RE: ballulah Jan 7, 2007 03:37 PM

                                        Agreed! The pistacchio is great.

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                                        Ora RE: Brian W Jun 16, 2007 06:36 PM

                                        A place next door to Lincoln Plaza Cinema sells Sedutto ice cream. Bway bet 62-63rd St. It has a Seduttos red neon sign in the window--its been there since I was child come to think of it.

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                                      raybird RE: raybird Dec 28, 2006 01:56 PM

                                      how would you describe sedutto's ice cream?

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                                        weaselrina RE: raybird Dec 29, 2006 06:01 PM

                                        Seduttos is "lighter" tasting than the super premium guys.. more like a breyers, less like a Haagen Daaz. And very tasty. I was always a Sedutto fan for good basic ice cream

                                        I'm a third vote for Cones as well - I go there whenever I can.

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                                          pouf RE: weaselrina Jan 31, 2011 03:42 PM

                                          Breyers is total air these days. I loved it way back in my youth...bulk. I have found LaSalle
                                          Coffer ice cream is as good if not better from the Breyers I remember in the 50s, yest 50s.
                                          I can't find Sedutto these days, but I liked it...coffee again.

                                          1498 1st Ave, New York, NY 10075

                                        2. Carrie 218 RE: raybird Jan 8, 2007 02:38 AM

                                          Fruzen Glacia - but its not made anymore... 8-(

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                                            luv2bake RE: Carrie 218 Jan 8, 2007 02:51 AM

                                            When my husband was in college, he worked at a grocery store. Every day he had a lunch break, he got a pint of Swiss chocolate almond Frusen Gladje. Oink! (Of course, he was skinny as a bean.) It's funny they didn't make it. I'd think it was the cost, but they weren't any worse than what's out there now.

                                            For Frusen Gladje fans:

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                                              jenniebnyc RE: luv2bake Jan 9, 2007 12:22 AM

                                              oh god, i used to get that flavor all the time. the alternative was chocolate chocolate chip frusen gladje !! we're talkin' early-mid 80's!!!

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                                                luv2bake RE: jenniebnyc Jan 9, 2007 05:50 AM

                                                Yes, early-mid 80's. We actually met at that grocery store. I was in high school, and he was in college. I was cuckoo for a boy my age at the time and didn't date my husband until I was in college. Of course, I didn't know at the time he ate Frusen Gladje on every lunch break or I might have started dating him on the spot!

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                                                  jenniebnyc RE: luv2bake Jan 11, 2007 12:30 AM

                                                  great story ! thanks for sharing.

                                                  we used to eat this during the Summer at our beach house on Fire Island where there are no cars, so walking to the beach and the ice cream store were the bulk of our days. The name of the ice cream store was (is) UnFriendly's!!

                                          2. coleyas RE: raybird Jan 8, 2007 07:30 PM

                                            I'm willing to get shot down on this one, but I adore LaSalle's ice cream (yes, I know they sell it in the supermarkets) on 3rd Avenue in Murray Hill.

                                            I'm not sure if it answers your initial question, which asked for "hard ice cream", but it certainly does for "old-fashioned," at least with respect to what I grew up with in the summer as a kid in Alabama.

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                                              cappy RE: coleyas Jun 3, 2007 06:50 PM

                                              I hear you on that one. Cheap ($1.99) pints of decent quality. Ice cream is sold by volume, not weight, and this is where La Salle really comes through in my subjective experience: try holding a pint of Edy's or especially the tasty but airy Breyer's in one hand and La Salle in the other--La Salle is hefty, packing in your money's worth.
                                              I once bought a pint that wasn't filled all the way and wrote them an old fashioned U.S. Postal Service letter and they were super nice in getting back to me and sent me a check for $8--enough for 4 compensatory pints.

                                              I came across your posting because I was exploring the Hunt's Point neighborhood in the Bronx today and I unexpectedly ran across the actual La Salle factory on Randall Ave. Although it was closed on Sundays there was a giant banner announcing they serve breakfast 'til 11 and lunch "all day". Can't wait to see what that's all about. Anybody been there to eat?

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                                              swissfoodie RE: raybird Jan 9, 2007 12:26 AM

                                              I hate to state the obvious, but any place in Italy, especially the Baccio gelato. In Montreal, it's definately at Havre-aux-glaces at Jean-Talon Market. With flavours like Blood Orange, you can't go wrong.

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                                                Buona RE: raybird Jan 9, 2007 11:51 AM

                                                I grew up in Staten Island and that's where Sedutto Ice Cream was made. I can still remember it as the most delicious ice cream ever. The Sedutto's were an old Staten Island family and the factory was in Port Richmond. The factory is closed now but there still is a Sedutto's Ice Cream Parlor in New Dorp. We can't make a trip back to SI without a stop for ice cream. Try the tortoni or the tartufi - out of this world.

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                                                  laurennycfoodie RE: raybird Jan 11, 2007 03:11 AM

                                                  For good ole' fashioned fare, Schrafft's in East Hampton is excellent. Movenpick is one of the best ever! Too bad it's only in Europe & Canada. Does anybody know if it's available in NYC or other state-side areas? Also, remember Dolly Madison? Like Frusen Gladje, it went out w/ the '80s and was the best store brand ice cream. I'm getting hungry again and I had Il Laboratorio de Gelato tonight at Whole Foods!

                                                  1. jbyoga RE: raybird Jan 11, 2007 03:14 AM

                                                    Mitchells in SF at 28th and San Jose....try the queso y maize!

                                                    and the epic peppermint stick!

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                                                      Sean Dell RE: raybird Jan 11, 2007 03:16 AM

                                                      Slightly off the question, but the olive oil gelato in Otto, Mario Batali's nutty joint for the 'younger' foodies, is outstanding.

                                                      A friend sent me a selection of four ice creams from Jeni's in Columbus, Ohio. They arrived in perfect condition, packed with dry ice, via Fedex. Highly recommended. www.jenisicecreams.com

                                                      - Sean

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                                                        kam0424 RE: Sean Dell Jul 8, 2007 05:01 PM

                                                        I've been dying to try Jeni's salted caramel!

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                                                        raybird RE: raybird Nov 27, 2007 07:23 AM

                                                        the search continues. i think sundaes and cones is the best i've had so far in this specific category of hard ice cream, but it's still not spot on. (so many of the posted replies above refer to gelato, or just other ice creams that aren't really the hard, old-fashioned kind.)

                                                        i was talking about hard ice cream with a friend from ohio recently, who knew exactly what i was talking about. she said the term is hard dip? (or, hand dipped? can't remember exactly.) and she agreed that it probably can't/won't be found in new york.

                                                        i happened upon the graeter's website while doing a little research afterward, and it looks like *exactly* what i'm talking about. has anyone had it, either at a store or by delivery?

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                                                          Justjenn RE: raybird Dec 4, 2007 12:48 PM

                                                          I agree with Duranie -- Eddie's sweet shop is my fave. THey have the best Banana Ice Cream I ever had -- try it with a scoop of their chocolate-- yum

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                                                            firni RE: Justjenn Dec 17, 2007 03:33 PM

                                                            The burnt caramel ice at Montparnasse, midtown east. Amazing.
                                                            Il Lab is great for exotic flavors...Brooklyn Ice Cream FActory had the best caramel sauce I've had.

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