HOME > Chowhound > Manhattan >

yasuda or should i wait for tokyo?

instrumental Jul 19, 2006 04:17 AM

it's my last month in new york and i'm trying to figure out what is a must-hit and what, perhaps, i might skip in favor of other chow. yasuda gets a lot of favorable press here, and i've never been ... but i'm going to japan for about two weeks pretty soon.

is it worth hitting up yasuda, or will the yasuda-memory fade as soon as i start eating in tokyo?

  1. Click to Upload a photo (10 MB limit)
  1. r
    Ricky RE: instrumental Jul 19, 2006 10:26 AM

    While Yasuda is one of the better places in ny, you can have 5 better meals in Tokyo for the price of one at Yasuda.

    1. lambretta76 RE: instrumental Jul 19, 2006 01:18 PM

      My suggestion would be to go to Taro Sushi in Park Slope, Brooklyn. A meal there will run you $20-$30, and the fish is quite good. Also, talk to the proprietor, whose parents own a sushi bar in Tokyo. (His is a "branch" of that bar.) He'll tell you where to go to find the best sushi in Tsukiji (which you should definitely do one morning at around 6 am, preferrably after a night of heavy sake consumption.) A lot of his daily specials are flown in from Tsukiji daily.

      1 Reply
      1. re: lambretta76
        subinai RE: lambretta76 Jul 20, 2006 04:10 PM

        Tsukiji is easily the freshest sushi you'll ever find. Go early to see the tuna auction.

      2. c
        Carl RE: instrumental Jul 19, 2006 03:30 PM

        The others are wrong. You should eat at Yasuda. Yasuda is, first of all, the best sushi place in the US other than Masa and Urusawa, which cost hundreds of dollars. And, more importantly, Yasuda competes just fine with places in Japan. Japan is full of sushi bars, but the great majority of them are merely okay, not nearly as good as Yasuda. Good sushi in Japan is really expensive.

        1 Reply
        1. re: Carl
          Porthos RE: Carl Jul 20, 2006 04:08 PM

          I agree with Carl. Go to Yasuda so you have a gold standard. Then go to Tokyo and let us know if you can readily find places better and cheaper. More importantly, if you do, make a list so future travelers can share your good fortune. I've been told that it is harder than one would expect to find great sushi at a reasonable price in Tokyo.

          Afterall, you can never have enough great sushi....especially since you'll soon be moving to SF. I still fly SF->NY for Sushi Yasuda at least twice a year...which you may be doing since it's easier than SF->Tokyo.

        2. k
          kvn RE: instrumental Jul 19, 2006 05:59 PM

          wait for Tokyo. I love Yasuda, and I agree it is among the best in ny. (btw, Taro in Park Slope is very good, too) But there is no comparison to Tokyo.
          Why? because what makes sushi exceptional rather than yummy is the freshness of the fish. period. Of course the chef needs to have mastered the right cut, etc but, really, it's about the fish. In Japan, there is a culture surrounding the preparation and delivery of fresh fish to your plate. So navigate Tokyo wisely (yes, there are lenty of average places there as well) and you will be rewarded with an exceptional meal. If I were you, I'd concentrate on the food that is unique to NYC! but it depends where you are moving to?

          1 Reply
          1. re: kvn
            E Eto RE: kvn Jul 19, 2006 07:54 PM

            I would have to concur with kvn. What makes a place like Yasuda great (and expensive) is that they get a good portion of their fish flown in from Japan, but since you'll be in Japan, you'll be able to cut out those costs and as long as you choose your sushi places carefully, you should be able to eat very well.

          2. i
            instrumental RE: instrumental Jul 20, 2006 01:30 AM

            thanks for all the great advice!

            i'm moving to san francisco, so good sushi (though perhaps not great) will be around. and i have a friend who lives in tokyo, so he'll be able to steer me towards the great stuff.

            and believe me, i've been eating as much as possible, in an effort not to miss out on anything. i think my pizza consumption is up to at least once/day.

            1 Reply
            1. re: instrumental
              Simon RE: instrumental Jul 20, 2006 02:22 AM

              i also agree w/ kvn and E Eto...Yasuda is great but you can get as good or better in Tokyo...so while your meal would be great, it's not a must, given your plans...

              that said, i'll add that, if you like wine, go to Jewel Bako, sit at the sushi bar, and have the owner Jack pair fine red and white wines with each course...i've taken friends from Tokyo there and they've been delighted because they don't know of any Tokyo place that offers that...

            2. c
              censorone RE: instrumental Jul 20, 2006 06:50 PM

              yasuda is an experience! why not go. all the fish may not be caught the same morning as the argument is that some sushi should not be served "fresh". it needs some time for fibers to break down and relax to be of more enjoyable sushi texture.

              1 Reply
              1. re: censorone
                kenito799 RE: censorone Jul 20, 2006 06:59 PM

                Yes, this is explained on Yasuda's website. Part of the art is knowing how long to age the fish. Not all sushi is supposed to be eaten right out of the ocean. The best tuna on earth (available only in Japan because they will pay the most for it) is caught in the Atlantic and frozen solid immediately.

              2. a
                anon646 RE: instrumental Jul 20, 2006 09:10 PM

                I have been to Tokyo numerous times, and have eaten at Yasuda. No doubt that Yasuda is great, but it is so pricey. There is another place in that area called Kuruma-Zushi, which is on the second floor of a nearby building. That I actually believe is better than Yasuda. I have taken my friends from Japan there and they think it's about as close to Japan as you can get here. But everyone has their opinion.

                I would wait for Tokyo. You'll just can't beat it. When I went, we went to Tempura Bars, Yaki Tori bars, etc. and doing that will make it worth the wait.

                Show Hidden Posts