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Food a HK native would love in/around Cupertino, Ca?

  • wchane Jul 18, 2006 05:28 PM

A friend's parents are in town (from Hong Kong) and I just wanted to know which restaurants you would recommend them.

Canton Delights is one...now I need others.

Thanks.
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  1. Does it have to be Cantonese/Chinese? Would they be open to other types of cuisine?

    1. What kind of food are you looking for? Are you looking for a restaurant that you sit down at and eat a real meal (e.g. Canton Delights) or are you looking for the quick snack places? The dessert places? Congee places?

      1. I know people from HK who loves Shanghainese food (lots of Shanghainese refugees who fleed the communist take over), sushi and other japanese cuisines, Taiwanese, Thai, Vietnamese, French, Italian, etc.

        For relatively high end Cantonese cuisine try Joy Luck Place.

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        1. re: PeterL

          have had a couple of negative experiences at Joy Luck Place.

          another option might be Saigon Seafood on Lawrence in Sunnyvale. the one in Richmond was pretty good, unfortunately they had a fire a couple of weeks ago.

          1. re: kc72

            The noodle/jook side of Joy Luck Place is -very- good. Recent visitors from Hong Kong commented that the won ton min was better than many of the HK restaurants. If the OP's visitors want a simple and familiar meal, this is the place.

            I felt that the main dining room started to go down hill a few years ago. If you're looking for dim sum or a 9 course dinner, I'd recommend Mayflower over Joy Luck Place.

            1. re: al88

              HK Flower Lounge | Canton Delights | Mayflower | ABC Seafood | East Ocean | Loon Wah (I'm within walking distance) are on the top of my list for Dim Sum.

              and i'm always up for the greasy, un-clean, SF china town dim sum shops.

              1. re: wchane

                Would they be interested in Layang Layang which is just a few blocks south of you? The fish head curry makes me drool.

        2. i'm thinking about taking them to kaygetsu, i'm a huge fan just not sure about them.

          i'm looking for more sit-down and a atmosphere where we can talk. my chinese is not good at all, and they do not speak english.

          any shanghinese recs? that's exactly the type of feedback i wanted to see, as i'm not sure what they prefer.

          thanks!

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          1. re: wchane

            Stay with Kaygetsu. The cuisine is light and there are plenty of seafood options if you think they'd be more seafood inclined because they're from HK. You must finish with the tai chazuke. The hamachi kama is also delicious if it's available.

            1. re: wchane

              I completely agree with Porthos on a firm Kaygetsu recommendation even though I've never eaten dinner there (but have had lunch at their sushi bar). A proper upscale kaiseki meal if available in Hong Kong would easily cost a whole lot more, and is not terribly common fare over there for the average HKer.

              I would not bother with any of the Cantonese or Shanghainese restaurants in the area unless they absolutely must have Chinese.

              If not Kaygetsu, Kitsho in Cupertino would be a great 2nd choice for Japanese. If they are not into raw fish, Howard has tons of great cooked dishes and I would definitely go for any tofu dish since Howard makes them from scratch (cold tofu 3 bean appetizer is awesome, and ditto for steamed tofu appetizer). There are also some white board specials such as grilled fish (not the teriyaki or hamachi kama common kind) that might be interesting. Ask for the Japanese appetizers menu (and help to translate, I'm sure there are some gems there). House made miso, using miso marination for fish, is great. Howard made a great gindara nitsuke (soy sauce steamed black cod) that was most excellent.

              Tanto (Sunnyvale) or Gochi (Cupertino, northern end) might be other nice places to take them.

              I don't know of great Italian or French restaurants around Cupertino at the moment, but there has to be something interesting or worthwhile that's within driving distance.

              (Side note, when my uncle and aunt were visiting from Hong Kong, we took them to Il Fornaio in Burlingame, and they loved it - and they are very picky eaters).

              1. re: K K

                I am hesitant on taking them to Gochi, as I have yet to try it myself. Hectic schedule these days, however being as the owner/chef is from Tanto, and it's serioulsy packed nightly I am willing to give it a go. Any suggestions?

                All the other Japanese restaurants you mentioned are all on my top eats, being based out of Cupertino.

                As for italian restaurants I am partial to Il Postale in Sunnyvale, the rock shrimp capelinni is fantastic and if you like chocolate they sometimes have a dessert called 'boca negra' a truely decadent slice of flourless chocolate cake. Another I like is pizza antica in santana row, their gnocchi is interesting, i like it, and the simple spaghetti w/fennel sasuage makes for a simple dinner.

                I'm not a huge fan of french food, but I hear there's a restaurant or two off Big Basin in Saratoga.

                1. re: wchane

                  You can do a board search for Gochi, and will likely find Melanie Wong's review on it with photos. I've only been for lunch, while quality is great, it is not representative of what they really can do during dinner I do believe. The minor setback is that you probably need to take off your shoes to dine, simliar to the central dining area of Tanto Sunnyvale.

                  It sounds like you are hitting the right spots/potential suggestions of your own. Santanna Row would be a nice little walk for out of towners to marvel (even for window shopping), then you can take them to Valley Fair afterwards. Or even take a little nice walk around downtown Los Altos or head south into Los Gatos (Manresa might be a possibility for something very high end western). Saratoga/Big Basin sounds like another nice area to hit, but I don't know of the restaurants there.

                  When my inlaws were here we drove even further and went to places like Sausalito, ate at Farallon (SF) and when we had to have Chinese we did Lucky Buddha in San Carlos (off the white board menu), Silver House in San Mateo, and Joy in Foster City (Chinese only menu and pre-ordered the $30 specials like stuffed duck [ba bao ya] or beggars chicken).

                  For the really really picky HK eaters visiting SF wanting Cantonese (just from my perspective and family/experiences), I personally wouldn't settle for anything less than say Koi Palace in Daly City if you're on a splurge, Silver House in San Mateo, R&G Lounge in SF Chinatown (I'm sure there are arguments for and against this place but it has always been good for us with few misses). Tai Wu in Daly City is more out of the way, but with its growing popularity with the famous executive chef, if you can get reservations (heard they may not take them anymore but not 100% sure) and can go on a weeknight, it might be a winner.

                  1. re: K K

                    I took my parent to Tai Wu/Mr. Fong in Daly City last week for a dim sum lunch. My mom really liked it and wants her birthday dinner there.

                    1. re: K K

                      joy in foster city is an alternative i am willing to try, however it will be completely experimental as i can not read chinese. i'll eat anything they order though.

                      1. re: K K

                        While Joy has great food, the hot summer weather combined with the restaurant's poor ventilation resulting in stuffiness(despite the one or two wall fans) would make the dining experience rather unpleasant. I'd hold off until the weather is cooler.

                2. I am not a big fan of Canton Delight.

                  Dynasty (at the Vallco Mall) is a possibility.

                  It also depends on what type of food and environments they like. They have ready access to Cantonese food in HK, so a lot of restaurants here will pale in comparison.

                  They might like one of those Chinese/Asian buffets that have sprung up in the area. Crazy Buffet, Super Buffet, etc...

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                  1. re: Cary

                    we're going to need a common ground...they might like it but i'm going to gorge myself into a whale...on food that i don't even like =/

                    thanks.

                  2. How about Alexander's Steakhouse? I love the porterhouse there. Huge slabs of beef might impress them. (As an inside joke to myself, I sometime take foreign visitors to Costco so they can marvel at the bigness that is America.) The seafood there is not bad, the chef is half Japanese and I recall liking the hamachi sashimi too.

                    1. If you are willing to splurge (a lot), take them to Dynasty. My in-laws came over and we had one of the expensive dinners (over $500 for a table of 10) and they couldn't stop raving how good the seafood was. They said they are not used to having seafood that good -- but you totally pay a hefty bill for it

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                      1. re: peachblossom

                        kaygetsu's summer tasting menu is $90pp. i'll be paying for at least 4. but it's kaygetsu..mmmmMmmmmmm....*drools*

                        1. re: wchane

                          I don't do the Kaiseki when I go to Kaygetsu anymore. You can get most of the dishes on the kaiseki menu a la carte. I just chose a whole mess of dishes, picking 1 or 2 from each category and ending with the tai chazuke...it's like make your own kaiseki. I love it. Plus, it turns out to be *much* cheaper. I did the same thing when my family visited and got away with $300 for 4 plus sake. Everyone was stuffed.

                          For example, for 4 people
                          1 chawan mushi each= $28
                          2 Sashimi moriawase= $48
                          1 hamachi kama= $15
                          1 kaygetsu beef=$22
                          2 Tempura (or replace with black cod or fried sole)= $32
                          4 Yasai taki awase= $52 (if you're not big eaters,reduce this to 2)
                          4 Tai Chazuke= $32
                          Total= $229
                          Add a bottle of the Kura no Hana= $42 and you get away around $300.

                          1. re: Porthos

                            THANK YOU!!! I can't express how much this simpliflies things for me. I'm pretty set on going to Kaygetsu, but I was also going to order a la carte, as the daughter is 14 years old and not the most adventurous eater, I'd imagine a set meal would be unfair to her and her mother, so not to exlude anyone I'd order family style and let them eat whatever they want. i'd personally be happy with the hamachi kama and rice, but I'm definitely going to 'borrow' your list.

                            Thanks again!