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  <id>309953</id>
  <title>books on table service</title>
  <published_at>Mon Jul 17 17:09:21 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>10</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>33</id>
    <name>Food Media and News</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1749183</id>
        <content>Are there any?  I'm a waiter, and I have a lot to learn</content>
        <published_at>Mon Jul 17 17:09:21 -0700 2006</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>13347</id>
          <name>Danimal</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1749366</id>
      <content>ask your trainer? i've run across a couple of small booklets put out by the nra on service.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 17 18:18:46 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1749183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16027</id>
        <name>dano</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1749543</id>
      <content>I'd google it...there must be books on it!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 17 19:23:09 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1749183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11408</id>
        <name>melly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1749696</id>
      <content>"Remarkable Service: A Complete Guide to Winning and Keeping Customers for Servers, Managers and Restaurant Owners," by the Culinary Institute of America is the best service guide I have found.  I'm a restaurant manager with a small library on the topic, and this book is the most comprehensive and straightforward.  You can find it used on amazon used for about $10.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 17 20:07:32 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1749183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15785</id>
        <name>monday</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1753197</id>
      <content>I'd like that book but my basic search here did'nt turn up a thing.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 05:43:29 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1749696</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12037</id>
        <name>Ida Red</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1753297</id>
      <content>I'm not sure why a search on this site would turn up that particular book.  I haven't been using chowhoud for long, but it  seems much more for foodies than restaurant folks.  I'm just someone who is both.  I found the book on amazon pretty easily. I think I searched on "restaurant service."   

In my experience, nothing I've read has a good breakdown of how things really go in today's U.S. fine-dining restaurants.    However, "Remarkable Service" has the best, most universal information about service techniques and standards.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 08:37:24 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1753197</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15785</id>
        <name>monday</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1753603</id>
      <content>Yes, my misleading "here" meant I seached on the internet... I will try Amazon again.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 14:43:08 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1753297</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12037</id>
        <name>Ida Red</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1753929</id>
      <content>For general and specific, Lessons in Service from Charlie Trotter by Edmund Lawler.  It's written from the point of view of an owner, but has a lot of info for servers as well.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 16:53:01 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1749183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10480</id>
        <name>Siobhan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1753938</id>
      <content>"Lessons in Service from Charlie Trotter" is written by Ed Lawler,  not Trotter himself (though I believe Trotter was actively involved in the process).</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 16:58:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1753929</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11296</id>
        <name>Darren72</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1754004</id>
      <content>"Lessons in Service" is great for anyone in customer service not just restaurants.  Thanks for mentioning.  I didn't find it useful as a technical guide, but I'd love it if everyone in the buisiness would read it.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 17:23:57 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1753929</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15785</id>
        <name>monday</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1754888</id>
      <content>Here is a link to a great article about the importance of service in restaurants, featuring Laura Cunningham:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/10/20/FDG6U99KI01.DTL

Not really a guide, but enlightening.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 19 22:03:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1749183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16301</id>
        <name>Non Cognomina</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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