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  <id>308602</id>
  <title>Heinz Organic Tomato Ketchup - better than the original</title>
  <published_at>Tue Jul 11 23:28:34 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>24</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1739236</id>
        <content>It is the miracle. The only product that has bested its original version. 

Nobody&#8217;s pulled this off, not Coke, not anyone.

I wanted to pull this out of a different post  because this product is so mind-blowing amazing. Chris VR wrote in this post of the Canadian version of Heinz Ketchup ...

&#8220;I recently tasted the Canadian version and it's like drinking Coke with cane sugar- it's a taste I remember from my childhood but forgot I wasn't tasting any more.&#8221;

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/307567#1734047

Yeah, that&#8217;s it ... only for the first time in my life, something was BETTER than the memory. 

Really, I&#8217;m not one to fool with my ketchup. I&#8217;ll tolerate fancy, fresh from the garden ketchup from fancy restaurants ... but it is not ... Heinz. 

Looking to see if I could cut and paste the ingrediants (amazing) I came across this guy who had the same reaction. He said &#8220;Heinz Tomato Ketchup is good. But their Organic version definitely tastes better. Much more tomatoey whilst still being distinctly recognisable as Heinz&#8221;

http://www.firstscience.com/SITE/editor/080_ramblings_26112004.asp

Yeah. 

Heinz doesn&#8217;t  list the ingrediants on the site ... they should ... proudly.

Organic tomato concentrate made from red  ripe organic tomatoes, organic distilled vinegar, organic sugar, salt, organic onion powder, organic spices, natural flavoring. 

They do say

"Heinz Organic Ketchup is produced at Heinz's Leamington, Canada facility, using red-ripened tomatoes from the company's organic tomato fields in Escalon, California."

http://www.heinz.com/World.aspx#hor

For those of you in the SF Bay area, it is in the organic section of Raley&#8217;s market - $2.29 ... I&#8217;d pay five bucks for it and not blink. 

Thanks Chris VR. Your description gave me the incentive  to give this a try.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Jul 11 23:28:34 -0700 2006</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>10264</id>
          <name>rworange</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1739422</id>
      <content>I couldn't agree more.  It's an amazing ketchup.  The only one I buy now.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 12 01:29:22 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10642</id>
        <name>bryan</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1740183</id>
      <content>I second that emotion</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 12 15:16:35 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14083</id>
        <name>cooknKate</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1834224</id>
      <content>third! third!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 26 01:06:53 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13104</id>
        <name>tamasha</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1834571</id>
      <content>I polished off the bottle a few weeks ago and I've been going through a bottle of Hunt's that I bought for comparison. 

Halfway through the Hunt's bottle, I think about the Heinz Organic with each bite. The Heinz I could eat on its own. The Hunts needs food and even then, I don't use as much as that Heinz.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 26 06:41:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1834224</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1836751</id>
      <content>I don't even like ketchup and I like this stuff. I was amazed when I found it in the store here in CT.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Aug 27 21:46:46 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26353</id>
        <name>Elizzie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1837265</id>
      <content>Where can you get this Ketchup in NY?

  I have also seen Low Carb Sugar Free Heinz Ketchup advertised, but have never seen it on the shelves. Any suggestions?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 28 04:52:36 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10838</id>
        <name>Fleur</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1837311</id>
      <content>Gristede's carries Heinz organic.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 28 05:42:07 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1837265</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10074</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1839879</id>
      <content>Thanks Caitlin. I also found it today (and much cheaper) at Garden of Eden. I wonder if Fairway has it. I still haven't found the Low Sugar Heinz.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 29 04:50:53 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1837311</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10838</id>
        <name>Fleur</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4847923</id>
      <content>just so you know, One Carb ketchup and the Reduced Sugar ketchup are identical ... same recipe different labels.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 10 17:34:52 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>1839879</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1092647</id>
        <name>idave321</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1839482</id>
      <content>Trader Joe's Organic Ketchup got a good review from my Heinz-loving Mom. Wonder whether it's Heinz under the label?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 29 00:58:31 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17958</id>
        <name>Jefferson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1839927</id>
      <content>You need to do a blind taste test.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Aug 29 05:37:03 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1839482</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>27275</id>
        <name>ML8000</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1841951</id>
      <content>I've been using this for at least two years now, and won't go back to anything else.  I love the texture as well as the taste!  I haven't had any trouble finding it at mainstream supermarkets, in the regular condiments aisle.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 00:24:32 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26209</id>
        <name>mrsry</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1842814</id>
      <content>If you are having trouble finding this ketchup locally, Amazon.com will ship it nationwide.

http://www.amazon.com/Heinz-Organic-Ketchup/dp/B00061EPLS/sr=8-1/qid=1156948561/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3293910-8115344?ie=UTF8</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 14:36:33 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15927</id>
        <name>fascfoo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1843844</id>
      <content>I have this HUGE 64oz bottle of regular Heinz Ketchup, and now that I've given up HFCS, I have to trash it. I'm going on the Organic as soon as I go to the store (no HFCS). I tried the Tabasco Hot Catsup and it's terrible!

By the way, HFCS ain't that great for ya!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 30 19:53:09 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17631</id>
        <name>daawgon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1847523</id>
      <content>&gt; I have to trash it

As long as food hasn't gone bad, you can almost always find a taker. Our office refrigerator is full of such "donations." ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 01 02:15:42 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1843844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17958</id>
        <name>Jefferson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1846252</id>
      <content>I was just discussing ketchup over lunch and saying how i was convinced i'd have to allow just that much HFCS in my diet b/c Heinz is just simply the best.  But to hear that their organic is just as good if not better?!  Oh thank you for posting!!  This makes my day.  Hey, there's still a good month of grilling left this summer...</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 31 18:26:40 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16421</id>
        <name>brownie</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1846476</id>
      <content>Cook's Illustrated did a comparo on ketchups, and I think the Hunt's won that one.

The SF Chronicle did a taste test on organic ketchups, and voted Muir Glen and TJ's as the highest, with Heinz Organic coming in #5 of 7.  I have not tasted any organic ketchups yet but if you guys are raving about the Heinz O, I wonder how the other ones are. Can anyone comment on other brands of organic ketchup?

Taste test:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/06/07/FDG1RJ7RR71.DTL</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 31 19:20:39 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14477</id>
        <name>Hapa Dude</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1847269</id>
      <content>I'm not sure I'd put much stock in the SF Chronicle's taste test if you're a die-hard Heinz fan in the first place, since they included two non-organic ketchups in this taste test, and while they gave Heinz organic a score of 52 points (out of a possible 100), they gave regular Heinz 37.  

If it's about finding the best ketchup to your taste, taste widely and see what you like. If you want an organic, a HFCS-free, or a perhaps better-tasting alternative to regular Heinz with a similar flavor profile, here you have it.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 01 00:03:29 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1846476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10074</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1847338</id>
      <content>Indeed, the food/taste comparos in the Chron are often off or odd. At least that's been my experience. It's still good info and often you'll find out about something you never heard of before...but always go w/ you gut.  

BTW, I'm going to compare Heinz Organic vs. TJ Orgranic w/ fries later on.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 01 00:34:08 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1847269</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>27275</id>
        <name>ML8000</name>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1847515</id>
      <content>I was thinking that. I rarely agree with the Chron taste tests. In this case their description of Heinz Organic was nothing like the taste. The Chron calls it ...

""sweet, not very complex," with a "grainy texture" and "caramel finish." 

Yeah ... none of those things. 

I was going to pick up a bottle of the organic Muir Glen just to see ... the one the Chron says everyone sells ... Raley's doesn't sell it. 

I'm kind of glad though. I'm not a fan of Muir Glen products, in general. However, if I see it sometime, I'll give it a try. The unused banana catsup in my fridge is getting lonely and could use company. 

Someone earlier guessed that the TJ organic brand might be Heinz. That would be pretty funny if that was the case. 

One other thing. In my taste test, the Hunts catsup was looking really good. In fact, side by side, the Heinz seemed a little less vibrant. 

However, in the long run ... with each on their own, I scrarfed down the Heinz and the Hunts is still in my fridge with only about a third of the bottle used.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 01 02:12:50 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1847338</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1847738</id>
      <content>Agree about the Muir Glen products.  I think I bought their canned tomatoes and something was off...too sweet. Hate to say it but I think of hippies in the mountains with canning equipment when I have Muir Glen stuff...and I'm not opposed to hippies in mountains with canning equipment...as long as it's good.  

Any way, I did the test of Heinz organic vs. TJ's organic. They're not the same from eye-balling it.  Heinz is smoother and brigher, TJ's darker. Both are obvious improvements over regular mass produced stuff but beyond that...it's ketchup. 

Maybe it was because I didn't do the cleansing crackers or water routine, but then I was thinking...either would be good and big improvements over regular stuff, I don't need to know more then that.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 01 04:33:44 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1847515</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>27275</id>
        <name>ML8000</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4250703</id>
      <content>I'm pretty sure that the Organic recipe IS the "original" recipe for Heinz Ketchup. That's probably one of the reasons that it tastes better than what passes for today's "Regular" Heinz Ketchup recipe.

When you buy a bottle of regular Heinz Ketchup these days, you can plainly see on the label that High Fructose Corn Syrup is one of the main ingredients. Heinz wouldn't have used High Fructose Corn Syrup before 1970. In other words.... What we think of as the "regular" recipe for Heinz Ketchup is not by any means the "original" Heinz recipe. If anything, real sugar would have been in the original recipe before 1970. And that's exactly what they've done with the Organic recipe.

So, essentially what Heinz must have done is unearthed the real "original" recipe (without the High Fructose Corn Syrup) and replaced it with Organic ingredients. No wonder it tastes better than the modern "regular" Heinz Ketchup!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Dec 16 08:56:37 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>141379</id>
        <name>jibu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4847968</id>
      <content>There are quite a few types .... but understand that taste varies based on the paste used to make it. The finest paste is from Leamington, ON Canada. Its used to make all of Canada's ketchup and roughly 25% of US supply ... mainly found in the northern US states. The ketchup made for the Canadian market differs from the US recipe with about 25% less sugar and salt, as well it uses liquid invert sugar rather than the HFCS used for the US. Organic is made to a Canadian standard as far as sugar and salt levels are concerned, and the sugar is organic evaporated cane juice. US ketchup for the mid/southern states is made with California paste, HFCS and the high salt/sugar levels.

</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 10 17:57:31 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4250703</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1092647</id>
        <name>idave321</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4848008</id>
      <content>FYI: as reported on the SF board, you can get two 32 oz bottles of organic Heinz for $6 bucks at Grocery Outlet in the Bay Area. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jul 10 18:13:58 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>1739236</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>27275</id>
        <name>ML8000</name>
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