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Heinz Organic Tomato Ketchup - better than the original

rworange Jul 11, 2006 11:28 PM

It is the miracle. The only product that has bested its original version.

Nobody’s pulled this off, not Coke, not anyone.

I wanted to pull this out of a different post because this product is so mind-blowing amazing. Chris VR wrote in this post of the Canadian version of Heinz Ketchup ...

“I recently tasted the Canadian version and it's like drinking Coke with cane sugar- it's a taste I remember from my childhood but forgot I wasn't tasting any more.”

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/307567#1734047

Yeah, that’s it ... only for the first time in my life, something was BETTER than the memory.

Really, I’m not one to fool with my ketchup. I’ll tolerate fancy, fresh from the garden ketchup from fancy restaurants ... but it is not ... Heinz.

Looking to see if I could cut and paste the ingrediants (amazing) I came across this guy who had the same reaction. He said “Heinz Tomato Ketchup is good. But their Organic version definitely tastes better. Much more tomatoey whilst still being distinctly recognisable as Heinz”

http://www.firstscience.com/SITE/editor/080_ramblings_26112004.asp

Yeah.

Heinz doesn’t list the ingrediants on the site ... they should ... proudly.

Organic tomato concentrate made from red ripe organic tomatoes, organic distilled vinegar, organic sugar, salt, organic onion powder, organic spices, natural flavoring.

They do say

"Heinz Organic Ketchup is produced at Heinz's Leamington, Canada facility, using red-ripened tomatoes from the company's organic tomato fields in Escalon, California."

http://www.heinz.com/World.aspx#hor

For those of you in the SF Bay area, it is in the organic section of Raley’s market - $2.29 ... I’d pay five bucks for it and not blink.

Thanks Chris VR. Your description gave me the incentive to give this a try.

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  1. bryan Jul 12, 2006 01:29 AM

    I couldn't agree more. It's an amazing ketchup. The only one I buy now.

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      cooknKate Jul 12, 2006 03:16 PM

      I second that emotion

      1. tamasha Aug 26, 2006 01:06 AM

        third! third!

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        1. re: tamasha
          rworange Aug 26, 2006 06:41 AM

          I polished off the bottle a few weeks ago and I've been going through a bottle of Hunt's that I bought for comparison.

          Halfway through the Hunt's bottle, I think about the Heinz Organic with each bite. The Heinz I could eat on its own. The Hunts needs food and even then, I don't use as much as that Heinz.

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          Elizzie Aug 27, 2006 09:46 PM

          I don't even like ketchup and I like this stuff. I was amazed when I found it in the store here in CT.

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            Fleur Aug 28, 2006 04:52 AM

            Where can you get this Ketchup in NY?

            I have also seen Low Carb Sugar Free Heinz Ketchup advertised, but have never seen it on the shelves. Any suggestions?

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            1. re: Fleur
              Caitlin McGrath Aug 28, 2006 05:42 AM

              Gristede's carries Heinz organic.

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                Fleur Aug 29, 2006 04:50 AM

                Thanks Caitlin. I also found it today (and much cheaper) at Garden of Eden. I wonder if Fairway has it. I still haven't found the Low Sugar Heinz.

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                  idave321 Jul 10, 2009 05:34 PM

                  just so you know, One Carb ketchup and the Reduced Sugar ketchup are identical ... same recipe different labels.

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              Jefferson Aug 29, 2006 12:58 AM

              Trader Joe's Organic Ketchup got a good review from my Heinz-loving Mom. Wonder whether it's Heinz under the label?

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                ML8000 Aug 29, 2006 05:37 AM

                You need to do a blind taste test.

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                mrsry Aug 30, 2006 12:24 AM

                I've been using this for at least two years now, and won't go back to anything else. I love the texture as well as the taste! I haven't had any trouble finding it at mainstream supermarkets, in the regular condiments aisle.

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                  fascfoo Aug 30, 2006 02:36 PM

                  If you are having trouble finding this ketchup locally, Amazon.com will ship it nationwide.

                  http://www.amazon.com/Heinz-Organic-K...

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                    daawgon Aug 30, 2006 07:53 PM

                    I have this HUGE 64oz bottle of regular Heinz Ketchup, and now that I've given up HFCS, I have to trash it. I'm going on the Organic as soon as I go to the store (no HFCS). I tried the Tabasco Hot Catsup and it's terrible!

                    By the way, HFCS ain't that great for ya!

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                      Jefferson Sep 1, 2006 02:15 AM

                      > I have to trash it

                      As long as food hasn't gone bad, you can almost always find a taker. Our office refrigerator is full of such "donations." ;-)

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                      brownie Aug 31, 2006 06:26 PM

                      I was just discussing ketchup over lunch and saying how i was convinced i'd have to allow just that much HFCS in my diet b/c Heinz is just simply the best. But to hear that their organic is just as good if not better?! Oh thank you for posting!! This makes my day. Hey, there's still a good month of grilling left this summer...

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                        Hapa Dude Aug 31, 2006 07:20 PM

                        Cook's Illustrated did a comparo on ketchups, and I think the Hunt's won that one.

                        The SF Chronicle did a taste test on organic ketchups, and voted Muir Glen and TJ's as the highest, with Heinz Organic coming in #5 of 7. I have not tasted any organic ketchups yet but if you guys are raving about the Heinz O, I wonder how the other ones are. Can anyone comment on other brands of organic ketchup?

                        Taste test:

                        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article...

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                        1. re: Hapa Dude
                          Caitlin McGrath Sep 1, 2006 12:03 AM

                          I'm not sure I'd put much stock in the SF Chronicle's taste test if you're a die-hard Heinz fan in the first place, since they included two non-organic ketchups in this taste test, and while they gave Heinz organic a score of 52 points (out of a possible 100), they gave regular Heinz 37.

                          If it's about finding the best ketchup to your taste, taste widely and see what you like. If you want an organic, a HFCS-free, or a perhaps better-tasting alternative to regular Heinz with a similar flavor profile, here you have it.

                          1. re: Caitlin McGrath
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                            ML8000 Sep 1, 2006 12:34 AM

                            Indeed, the food/taste comparos in the Chron are often off or odd. At least that's been my experience. It's still good info and often you'll find out about something you never heard of before...but always go w/ you gut.

                            BTW, I'm going to compare Heinz Organic vs. TJ Orgranic w/ fries later on.

                            1. re: ML8000
                              rworange Sep 1, 2006 02:12 AM

                              I was thinking that. I rarely agree with the Chron taste tests. In this case their description of Heinz Organic was nothing like the taste. The Chron calls it ...

                              ""sweet, not very complex," with a "grainy texture" and "caramel finish."

                              Yeah ... none of those things.

                              I was going to pick up a bottle of the organic Muir Glen just to see ... the one the Chron says everyone sells ... Raley's doesn't sell it.

                              I'm kind of glad though. I'm not a fan of Muir Glen products, in general. However, if I see it sometime, I'll give it a try. The unused banana catsup in my fridge is getting lonely and could use company.

                              Someone earlier guessed that the TJ organic brand might be Heinz. That would be pretty funny if that was the case.

                              One other thing. In my taste test, the Hunts catsup was looking really good. In fact, side by side, the Heinz seemed a little less vibrant.

                              However, in the long run ... with each on their own, I scrarfed down the Heinz and the Hunts is still in my fridge with only about a third of the bottle used.

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                                ML8000 Sep 1, 2006 04:33 AM

                                Agree about the Muir Glen products. I think I bought their canned tomatoes and something was off...too sweet. Hate to say it but I think of hippies in the mountains with canning equipment when I have Muir Glen stuff...and I'm not opposed to hippies in mountains with canning equipment...as long as it's good.

                                Any way, I did the test of Heinz organic vs. TJ's organic. They're not the same from eye-balling it. Heinz is smoother and brigher, TJ's darker. Both are obvious improvements over regular mass produced stuff but beyond that...it's ketchup.

                                Maybe it was because I didn't do the cleansing crackers or water routine, but then I was thinking...either would be good and big improvements over regular stuff, I don't need to know more then that.

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                          jibu Dec 16, 2008 07:56 AM

                          I'm pretty sure that the Organic recipe IS the "original" recipe for Heinz Ketchup. That's probably one of the reasons that it tastes better than what passes for today's "Regular" Heinz Ketchup recipe.

                          When you buy a bottle of regular Heinz Ketchup these days, you can plainly see on the label that High Fructose Corn Syrup is one of the main ingredients. Heinz wouldn't have used High Fructose Corn Syrup before 1970. In other words.... What we think of as the "regular" recipe for Heinz Ketchup is not by any means the "original" Heinz recipe. If anything, real sugar would have been in the original recipe before 1970. And that's exactly what they've done with the Organic recipe.

                          So, essentially what Heinz must have done is unearthed the real "original" recipe (without the High Fructose Corn Syrup) and replaced it with Organic ingredients. No wonder it tastes better than the modern "regular" Heinz Ketchup!

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                            idave321 Jul 10, 2009 05:57 PM

                            There are quite a few types .... but understand that taste varies based on the paste used to make it. The finest paste is from Leamington, ON Canada. Its used to make all of Canada's ketchup and roughly 25% of US supply ... mainly found in the northern US states. The ketchup made for the Canadian market differs from the US recipe with about 25% less sugar and salt, as well it uses liquid invert sugar rather than the HFCS used for the US. Organic is made to a Canadian standard as far as sugar and salt levels are concerned, and the sugar is organic evaporated cane juice. US ketchup for the mid/southern states is made with California paste, HFCS and the high salt/sugar levels.

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                              Jack Flash Mar 24, 2010 12:09 AM

                              Heinz today is also much thinner than it used to be. Remember the "anticipation" commercials? I can recall waiting forever for that stuff to come out of the bottle, but now it practically flows like water.

                            2. re: jibu
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                              Jack Flash Mar 24, 2010 12:08 AM

                              In my childhood (70s-80s), Heinz was made with sugar, not HFCS. I recently tried the organic and found that it is much more like the ketchup from my youth...no doubt because of the cane sugar.

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                              ML8000 Jul 10, 2009 06:13 PM

                              FYI: as reported on the SF board, you can get two 32 oz bottles of organic Heinz for $6 bucks at Grocery Outlet in the Bay Area.

                              1. buttertart Mar 24, 2010 06:53 AM

                                P.S. when buying canned tomatoes, check to see if country of origin is Canada. Some damn fine tomatoes are grown in my home and native land. I recently saw that at least some of the Luigi Vitelli brand was of Canadian origin and the tomatoes are very good.

                                1. ChristinaMason Mar 25, 2010 06:24 AM

                                  Back in the States, I used to buy Nature's Promise organic ketchup, which has sugar instead of HFCS. It was good and I never missed regular Heinz, but I've never tried Heinz Organic.

                                  Here in Germany, I think Heinz is made with sugar. So is Coke.

                                  1. MsDiPesto Mar 27, 2010 10:02 PM

                                    My fave ketchup. Reminds me of the ketchup of my youth, lacks that HFCS cloying "bite". The Trader Joe's has too many cloves for me to want to finish a bottle.

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                                      Kelli2006 Mar 28, 2010 09:22 AM

                                      I recently bough the Heinz organic because I didn't want to make the 90 minute trip to the closest Whole Foods, but the ketchup definitely isn't as good as WF's 356 product, but its also more expensive. The WF product is quite a bit thicker and it has a higher proportion of vinegar and spice then the mass market Heinz organic product.

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                                        rworange Mar 29, 2010 04:36 AM

                                        Yes, but for anyone who likes the Heinz taste, different spicing is not a good thing

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                                        dietndesire Apr 19, 2010 07:13 PM

                                        Anyone trying various brands of these ketchups with better ingredients know which is not too sweet or is it merely the corn syrup that makes standard US ketchups nasty?

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                                        1. re: dietndesire
                                          rworange Apr 19, 2010 07:48 PM

                                          Mainly the HFCS. Had a cheapo brand in Guatemala. It uses sugar and tastes better than regular Heinz

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                                            dietndesire Apr 19, 2010 08:05 PM

                                            I was assuming the syrup was the most blatant factor but have not gone about testing various brands.
                                            It is always very annoying to me when I would like a bit of ketchup on whatever type of food while at a restaurant but I know it is commercial and so sickeningly sweet that it does more damage than good.
                                            Thanks for the response.

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                                          librarianjen Apr 20, 2010 09:18 AM

                                          My husband is a supertaster, and he was very excited to do a blind taste test between our usual big regular bottle of Heinz, and the organic. I was surprised - he couldn't tell the difference. Neither could I. What a bummer! I was hoping it would be akin to regular Coke vs. the sugar Mexican coke we now get.

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                                            lawgirl3278 Apr 20, 2010 10:17 AM

                                            I agree 100%. Trader Joe's is also good.

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                                              idave321 Nov 22, 2013 10:14 PM

                                              I see that this is a really old topic, but with the demise of Heinz Leamington it has left many wondering where this will now be made.

                                              The rumor was that 3G would announce the expansion of the main plant in Mexico. Given the recent news story about rat fur found in product from Heinz Mexico, they may rethink that.

                                              Well, maybe not, they are paid very much less than a U.S or Canadian worker.

                                              If anyone cares I will post the bottlecap codes of the last run to come from Leamington.

                                              It will be 2 and 3 packs sold at Sam's club and Costco.

                                              The last run produced at a plant with a 105 year tradition of quality by folks who took pride in the product.

                                              After that .. watch out for Mexican rat parts :)

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                                              1. re: idave321
                                                Steve Green Nov 22, 2013 10:59 PM

                                                Yes, please do post those lot numbers. I saw a thread about Heinz Leamington but didn't make the connection. This is distressing news, and I for one, plan to do a bit of stockpiling.

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                                                  Puffin3 Nov 23, 2013 05:50 AM

                                                  I make my own Heintz ketchup based on the original recipe. It calls for 'refined sugar'. Anyway. "Organic sugar?" Really?

                                                  Cane sugar, organic? I wonder what those huge plastic tanks being pulled behind huge tractors moving through the sugar cane spraying the fields contain? Ask the poor people who work in those fields.
                                                  Same with "organic grapes"needed to make the vinegar. The soil may be chemical free but the bees which pollinate the flowers certainly aren't.
                                                  I saw a sign recently advertising "Organic Honey". Yeah right.
                                                  IMO Heintz is a few years behind the times when it comes to conning consumers re 'Organic Ketchup'.
                                                  The 'fad' is pretty much over for discerning consumers who have educated themselves about what truly organic verses 'sort-of-might be-organic' means. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/705409

                                                  1. re: Puffin3
                                                    Steve Green Nov 23, 2013 07:00 AM

                                                    My buddy the peach farmer once explained to me that "organic" doesn't mean "no spraying". Quite the opposite -- organic farmers usually spray more often, but with different stuff. "Myth #1" in the following article should help clear things up for you: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/s...

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                                                      Puffin3 Nov 23, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                      Excellent article. IMO Heintz and a lot of other mass producers have climbed on the 'Organic' wagon for only one reason:$$$$$

                                                  2. re: Steve Green
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                                                    idave321 Feb 26, 2014 12:23 AM

                                                    Lines are starting to wind up at Leamington now, the current run of organic (Costco 3-pack) ends tomorrow. It may well be the final run, the codes would be L0464 to L0574.It was a run of about 3 million bottles.

                                                2. DonShirer Feb 26, 2014 04:00 PM

                                                  The "Simply Heinz" version uses sugar instead of the corn syrup of the regular version. I can't taste the difference.

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