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Most sublime steak experience?

shivohum Jul 6, 2006 07:56 PM

I'm a vegetarian thinking of making a once-in-a-lifetime exception for some unbelievably sublime steak in New York. I've never before tasted steak. Suggestions? Luger's? Kobe (wagyu?) beef somewhere?

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    Raisel RE: shivohum Jul 6, 2006 08:29 PM

    Hands down, peter luger's. Probably kobe or wafyu at the Homestead.

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      devil RE: shivohum Jul 6, 2006 08:42 PM

      Agreed, if you're going to break your fast, it should be at Luger's. Though, they don't have Kobe. The Homestead does.

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        kesues RE: shivohum Jul 6, 2006 09:14 PM

        I broke my vegetarianism @ Peter luger's. It's definately the way to go.... But then again, I am an all or nothing kinda person. Good luck!

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          shivohum RE: kesues Jul 6, 2006 09:30 PM

          how long had you been a vegetarian? did you get ill as a result, or was your body able to process it, no problem?

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            kesues RE: shivohum Jul 7, 2006 12:16 AM

            I was a vegetarian for about 2 years and then ate only seafood for the two years following that. I didn't get sick at all.... but i also didn't heat a huge huge amount...but what i did sure was good... and i've been eating meat ever since.

        2. carbonara RE: shivohum Jul 6, 2006 10:35 PM

          No, no, no, Sparks! Go to Sparks. Truly amazing.

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            jdf RE: carbonara Jul 7, 2006 01:06 AM

            Agreed. Sparks. or for a great steak with a nicer, less steakhouse like atmosphere, try Strip House.

          2. steakman55 RE: shivohum Jul 7, 2006 01:54 AM

            Sparks, by all means as well. A better experience overall and if you are a vegetarian, you might like the strip better than the Porterhouse at Luger. By the way, in NYC, a NY strip is known as a "sirloin" so don't be confused... order the sirloin
            and get it medium rare.

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              ESNY RE: steakman55 Jul 7, 2006 01:35 PM

              Why would a vegetarian like a strip better than a porterhouse? A porterhouse contains a strip and a filet. I'd think a vegetarian would like the filet part better since its less "beefy" and more tender.

              That being said, if you want to go for the gusto, you have to go to Luger's. Best in NYC. I've been disappointed by my last few visits to Sparks. The steaks have been great, but everything else was poor (including the mouse that ran across the floor of the dining room). If you want to Manhattan, I'd pick Strip House as my second favorite and then the BLT Steak/Prime restaurants. The two BLT restaurants have a few different cuts of Waygu beef on the menu. I've had the Waygu flank steak at BLT steak and it was great. You get the buttery richness from the Waygu but still get some beefy flavor and texture cause of the cut.

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                jonathan RE: ESNY Jul 10, 2006 03:46 PM

                definitely disagree about the "beefy" flavor of a filet v/ strip. Filets are more "livery" tasting therefore, if someone is looking for steak, I would hands down go for a strip, MR. and def hit up lugers. just remember to bring cash.

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              newsjoke RE: shivohum Jul 8, 2006 01:23 PM

              There is no meat in the city (except for what they sell at Lobell's, where it's just as expensive and you have to cook it yourself) that can touch what they've got at Luger's. Luger's is the only steakhouse I know of that's worth every calorie and gram of saturated fat. (And I'm a health nut!)

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                caseynotis RE: shivohum Jul 8, 2006 04:09 PM

                Wow - I am surprised nobody has suggested Craftsteak, although they just opened in June. The steak is UNREAL there, I mean, blow your mind tasting. The menu is set up with several different kinds of steak - Hawaiian grass fed, Japanese,etc...our waiter very kindly explained the differences, thankfully. The service was outstanding, the food was amazing, I'm really hesitant to try another place (although I keep reading about some place, Lugar's? ;) ). But seriously, Craftsteak is a top-notch steakhouse.

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                  corgi RE: shivohum Jul 9, 2006 12:35 PM

                  This is somewhat out of left field, but I think if you really wan t to get a nice sense for wagyu, then the way to go is Sugiyama's Modern Kaiseki menu with Kobe beef. In addition to getting the Kobe, you'll be getting a whole menu of sublime little Japanese dishes and some terrific sashimi to boot. Then (on a different day!) go to Luger's and have the porterhouse because it's the gold standard.

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                    Desidero RE: shivohum Jul 9, 2006 01:48 PM

                    I had the sirloin at Sparks last night and it was arguably the best piece of meat I have ever had in my life.

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                      theannerska RE: eastvillagegirl Jul 10, 2006 03:36 AM

                      Luger's is still first, in my opinion, but Sparks is a very close second - had an incredible anniversary dinner there last summer. Service was fantastic, and the atmosphere is nice and quiet (or perhaps we were just there on a quiet night - the place is huge)...unlike the more lively/bustling Luger scene.

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                        Desidero RE: eastvillagegirl Jul 10, 2006 02:33 PM

                        I have been to Luger's once and I have to say that I found the sirloin at Sparks to be superior to the steak I had a Luger's. That being said, I am by no means a steak connoisseur, and when I say the sirloin was the best piece of meat I have ever had, I mean simply that it was delicious and made me deliriously happy.

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                          binkis RE: eastvillagegirl Jul 10, 2006 05:24 PM

                          First of all, IMHO, Lugers is #1 and I've never found a #2 in NYC - and not for lack of trying. Nothing comes even close.

                          Maybe I hit Sparks on an off night? I found Sparks (9 months ago or so) to be a grade C at best. The steak was bland, the sides were unmemorable and the environment was rushed.

                          Keen's is better.
                          Wolfgang's is better.
                          Frankie & Johnnie's is better.
                          Del Frisco's is better.
                          And I keep hearing great things about Ben & Jack's, though I haven't been.

                        2. The Chowhound Team RE: shivohum Jul 10, 2006 05:54 PM

                          Hi Folks-

                          Please note this is the Manhattan board, while arguably one of the best steak houses around, Peter Luger is located in Brooklyn and discussion on this board is limited to chow unique to Manhattan.

                          Please confine the discussion here to Manhattan chow and feel free to start a discussion about Peter Luger on the Outer Boroughs board.


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                            patriciarichter RE: shivohum Jul 10, 2006 09:40 PM

                            Keene's!!! Excellent steak, great wine list and an award winning single malt selection.

                            1. PSZaas RE: shivohum Jul 10, 2006 09:42 PM

                              What was the award?

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                                Simon RE: shivohum Jul 10, 2006 10:42 PM

                                i'm suggest this: go to Keen's (far and away the best atmosphere of any steakhouse w/ its old-NYC vibe and continuous operation since the 19th century) and order, not steak, but prime rib: which is excellent there...also get a tomato/stilton salad and some raw oysters and some great wine...

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                                  steinpilz RE: Simon Jul 16, 2006 11:03 AM

                                  No, get the mutton chop. Wow! Classic Keen's and unavailable anywhere else as far as I know.

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