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Save me from ever going to Blue Smoke again...

millefeuille Jul 5, 2006 02:35 PM

Kansas City ribs were dessicated and tasted reheated. St. Louis were merely serviceable. Is Daisy May the current mecca for BBQ?
Any help would be appreciated....

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    parkslopemama RE: millefeuille Jul 5, 2006 02:44 PM

    Personally, I don't like Daisy Mae's very much. Have you tried Dinosaur or R.U.B.? There have been tons of posts on both places, so if you do a search you can find lots of opinions and suggestions re: what to order.

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      noodles RE: parkslopemama Jul 5, 2006 11:24 PM

      I second that. Daisy Mae's was an enormous let down. Ribs were tough and dry. Do they not have sauce? I know its about the meat, but when I asked for BBQ sauce, I was given some red-hot concoction that really didnt work at all with the ribs (Memphis Rub). The only solid thing was the rib-tip baked beans. Everything else that I have had there has been less than satisfactory. As to Blue Smoke, like all Danny Meyer clap-traps, if anything is even a bit out of place, send it back! Demand satisfaction, like a short, white-suited, side-armed, proper Southern gentleman! It will be made right.

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        zGustibus RE: noodles Jul 5, 2006 11:52 PM

        In all fairness to Daisy May's, Authentic Memphis Dry Rub ribs are supposed to be dry... if you like the wet ribs, you should order a different kind. (Not saying you have to like it, but that's the way it's supposed to be...)

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          noodles RE: zGustibus Jul 6, 2006 06:16 PM

          Dry-rub is a far cry from dried out MEAT. Sorry, inexcusable, regardless of whether or not I like some sauce on the ribs or not. Dry BBQ is no good.

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            zGustibus RE: noodles Jul 6, 2006 08:44 PM

            You are definetely right about that... point taken. I was just saying I'm not surprised the wet sauce they gave you didn't mesh well with the dry rub. I had the same ribs at Daisy May's a few months ago and they were delicious- almost as good as ribs I have had in Memphis... sorry you had a bad experience!

    2. zGustibus RE: millefeuille Jul 5, 2006 04:05 PM

      Depends on what you like... I could see people not liking the location and/or atmosphere. And the pulled pork sandwich is a little too sweet for my taste. But if you like Dry Rub Memphis style pork ribs- I can vouch for the ones at Daisy May's. They are the real deal. Almost as good as the ones I had in Memphis...


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        orenshapiro RE: millefeuille Jul 5, 2006 04:22 PM

        the best place is Waterfront Ale House (corner of 30th n 2nd)... although it may look like crud from the outside, the food is outstanding and reasonable priced.

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          Blumie RE: orenshapiro Jul 5, 2006 06:13 PM

          For BBQ?

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            Scott V RE: Blumie Jul 5, 2006 06:36 PM

            The brisket sandwich is always good, and sometimes fantastic. They serve a good pulled pork sandwich. Never tried the ribs, but they make their own BBQ sauce and it is tasty.

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              dbird RE: Scott V Jul 5, 2006 09:54 PM

              I have seen Waterfront before. You mention barbecue sauce--is that the only kind of pulled pork they do? I am desperate to find a proper Carolina barbecue.

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                Steve R RE: dbird Jul 5, 2006 11:30 PM

                I've never been to the Waterfront Ale House in Manhattan but am a regular at the original on Atlantic Ave in Bklyn (same owners and some of the same staff). I eat the pulled pork regularly and it is not bbq sauced, at least not heavily. Try it and let us know what you think. I love the stuff but have no frame of reference for comparison to Carolina. Thanks.

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              Dave Feldman RE: Blumie Jul 6, 2006 05:28 AM

              W.A.E. doesn't serve authentic barbecue (and doesn't pretend to). The chef loves barbecue, though, and has wide latitude over the specials he serves -- the food is much more interesting than you'd ever expect from a neighborhood bar. Nice little grace notes like the chipotle ranch dressing, game burgers (I particularly like the ostrich). I don't think of the "barbecue" as being one of the highlights of the menu, but it's certainly edible.

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                jakeyd RE: Dave Feldman Jul 22, 2006 01:34 AM

                The cue at both Alehouses is prepared in Brooklyn over Hickory on a Southern Pride pit smoker

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            bonniebelle RE: millefeuille Jul 5, 2006 06:15 PM

            I personally love the Dinosaur!

            1. JMF RE: millefeuille Jul 6, 2006 01:35 PM

              R.U.B. is the way to go right now for NYC BBQ.

              I hear on the inside BBQ grapevine that there will be a new BBQ restaurant opening up in NYC in the near future. The pitmaster is pretty darn good.

              I know I am going to get major grief for saying this from one of the partners... ;-)>

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                BackyardChef RE: JMF Jul 6, 2006 02:56 PM

                If that's the place I think it is, it will be a nice change of pace from the other 'que joints in the city, since it won't be serving the same 'style' of bbq. And that pitmaster is better than pretty darn good. :P

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                  JMF RE: BackyardChef Jul 6, 2006 08:53 PM

                  I think we are definately talking the same place here.

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                Fallon RE: millefeuille Jul 6, 2006 08:53 PM

                I always get heat for mentioning Houston's as my favorite place to get my babyback rib fix cuz it's a chain but it bears mentioning. I have eaten at over 100 bbq joints across the country, including 20 in KC alone, so I think I have a good feel for bbq and ever since Pearson's closed down in Jackson Heights (I used to go there & before that to the original location in LIC) I've been getting my beef brisket at RUB and my ribs from Houston's. They are a bit pricey but very tender & tasty. Consistently good too as I first ate at a Houston's in SF years ago and then accidently ate at the Palm Beach Grill down in FL w/o realizing it is the flagship Houston's-I figured it out when I saw the menu. I've only eaten at the one in the Citicorp bldg here in NYC so I can't personally vouch for the other locations here in the city. Bon appetit!

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                  Dave Feldman RE: Fallon Jul 6, 2006 09:21 PM

                  I've never tried the ribs at Houston's but I don't discount your opinion at all. Houston's would make my list as one of the top ten burgers in Manhattan.

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