What's On Your Rotation? (San Diego)
- Joseph Jul 5, 2006 07:22 AM
A while back, Kirk started a thread with a list of places to eat on his "rotation". They were the places he liked best and would return to regularly, at least back then.
We don't eat out often enough to have a complete list, but I'll throw down what I have after a little over a year in town.
What are your favorites?
Places I like:
Vietnamese (cheap) - K Sandwiches (best bread), Pho CA Dao
Sushi (cheap) - Ichiban (cheap, OK rolls and specials)
Indian - Punjabi Tandoor
Middle Eastern - Mama's Bakery
Italian - Apertivo (tapas-style)
Pizza - Bronx Pizza
Mexican (cheap) - El Zarape ($1 fish tacos), Super Cocina (moles), Tamale cart (35th & El Cajon)
Salvadorean - El Salvador Pupuseria
American - The Linkery, In-N-Out
Breakfast - Crepes de Paris (but ownership has changed)
Dessert - Mariposa Ice Cream, Just Fabulous
Coffee - Caffe Calabria (best), Lestat's (24 hr)
Drinks - Baja Betty 's, The Linkery, Liar's Club
Places I want to try:
Thai - Saffron. Any other ideas? All have been just OK so far (Celadon, Katima, Amari, Bai Yook)
Vietnamese - Lucky Seafood
Sushi - Sammy Sushi, Sushi Ota
Japanese - Izakaya Sakura, Tajima, Teriyaki Cowboy, Hogetsu Bakery
Korean - Buga, Boo Cho, Ko Hayang Jip
Filipino - Tita's Kitchenette
Laotian - Asia Cafe
Chinese - Ba Ren, China Max, Dumpling Inn, Pearl?/Emerald?
Plate Lunch - Da' Kitchen
Middle Eastern - Soltan Banoo, Bandar
Indian – Bombay? India Princess?
Italian - Baci? I could use some help here.
Spanish - Cafe Sevilla (tapas)
Russian - Pomegranate
Mexican - Chilango's, Mama Testa, Maritza’s, Carnitas Urupan, Por Venir, Ponce's, Porkyland, El Cuervo
Seafood - Blue Water Grill, Bay Park Seafood Co
Breakfast - The Mission, Hash House, Cantina Panaderia, Original Pancake House, Cafe on Park
American - Turf Club, Chicken Pie Shop
Special Occasion - Parallel 33, Tapenade, AR Valentine, George's, Cafe Cerise, Fresh, Roppongi's, Cafe Chloe
I don't eat out very frequently these days, so my rotation is pretty short:
Harry's Coffee Shop
The Wit's End
Buga Korean BBQ
Lefty's Chicago Pizzeria
As for your list, it looks pretty good to me so far, though Saffron isn't really a good Thai place. Not sure what to recommend for Thai. When I used to work in Kearny Mesa, we'd sometimes go to this little hole-in-the-wall Thai place called Chilies Thai Gourmet. It's in the same shopping center as Original Pancake House. I remember the food being good, maybe it's worth a shot?
I used to live in Pacific Beach, but alas, I am now just a visitor to San Diego. Nonetheless, I have a rotation, and my problem is that I always have limited time in the city and it is hard to find time to try new spots. My favorites not necessarily in order:
1. Izakaya Sakura (Sakura 1 in the phone book and my #1).
2. Asia Cafe (Amazing Laotian)
3. The Fishery (Seafood House)
4. China Max (stylish Hong-Kong style cuisine and dim sum)
5. Liar's Club (ales, beers, great pub food)
6. Sammy's Sushi (neighborhood sushi bar)
7. Emerald or Pearl (dim sum)
8. Jasmine Express (roast duck to go)
9. Buga, Boo Cho for Korean (and Seoul BBQ just for Hwoe Dup Bap lunch special)
10. Tons of Vietnamese places: I sometimes think this is the cuisine best represented in SD - Thien Thanh (and great banh mi in the back of the same strip mall at Nong Huong(?)), Saigon, Pho Ca Dao, Convoy Noodle House, Phuong Trang, and Kim Chan sandwich shop.
11. Mexican I usually eat back home in Yuma.
As others have mentioned, Thai does not seem to be San Diego's forte.
Having lived in PB for 25+ years, I tend to get around. I have quite a rotation...just need more money!
Thai – Tiny place next to La Vache on Robinson Ave.
Japanese - Tajima
Sushi – Sushi Ota
Korean - Buga
Pizza – Marino’s and Bronx
Chinese – China Max
Chinese – Hot – Ba Ren
Dim Sum - Emerald
Mexican Fast Food - Alberto's
Mexican Slow Food – Super Cocina
Mexican Slower Food - Chilango's
Salvadorean - El Salvador Pupuseria
Seafood - The Fishery
Burgers - Hodads
Italian - Marino’s
Ribs - Phil's BBQ
Bar food – Liar’s Club and Cass Street
Spanish - Costa Brava
American – Crest Café and Cheesecake Factory
Breakfast - Original Pancake House
Brunch (Sat) – Baja Betty’s
Brunch (Sun) – Hanalei
Special Occasion – Donovan’s
Dessert - Cheesecake Factory
I'm new, but here's my list after 11 years in SD:
Thai – Lotus on 6th Ave. (best Pad See You ever - their spelling)
Sushi – Niban or Ichiban PB for cheap, Cafe Japengo for expensive
Pizza – for Naples style Arrivederci Pizzaria on 4th & Robinson, Bronx for NY style
Chinese & Dim Sum – Emerald Seafood
Mexican - El Zarape, the best grilled shrimp tacos on the planet
Seafood - Oceanaire in the Gaslamp (pricey, but so worth it)
Burgers - Crest Cafe
Italian - Arrivederci on 4th between University & Robinson
BBQ - Phil's BBQ
American – Crest Café
Breakfast - Cafe on Park (much better than Hash House, although HH is fun w/visitors)
Persian - Bandar in the gaslamp, great eggplant stew, chicken kabobs, grilled tomatoes
Dive - Longhorn Cafe in Vons shopping center at Friars & Mission Gorge
Brunch - Parkhouse Eatery
European - Café Chloe
Salads - La Vache
Bakery/Sandwiches/Bread - Bread & Cie
Cookies - Uncle Biffs
Pancakes - Harry's Coffee Shop in La Jolla
I haven't been in San Diego as long as others (2 years) but coming from Chicago, we had to find good food quickly. These are places we visit often.
Chinese Dinner - Pearl and China Max and Ba Ren
Dim Sum – Pearl and China Max
Cheap Chinese – Imperial Mandarin and Golden State
Mexican - Super Cocina and Chilangos
French – La Bastide Bistro
Dessert – Gelateria Frizante
Vietnamese Sandwiches - K's Sandwiches
Vietnamese Pho - Pho Hoa Hiep
Sushi (cheap) – Niban
Japanese – Teriyaki Cowboy and Tajima
Indian – Indian Princess
Middle Eastern - Mama's Bakery
Seafood – Blue Water
Filipino - Tita's Kitchenette
Thai – Flavor Thai, Still looking for better though
Plate Lunch - Da' Kitchen
Places I want to try:
Sushi - Sammy Sushi, Izakaya Sakura,
Korean - Buga, Boo Cho, Buga
Laotian - Asia Café
My husband and I opened a cheese shop a little over a year ago and since then, our rotation has been severly muted. But, we still have some old favorites and occasionally manage to find some new ones..
Burgers: Rocky's, hands down (used to live walking distance to Hodads, but still preferred the drive to PB)
Sushi: Ota, and many, many also rans. Frankly, a drive to Nobu in either LA or Vegas is our preference.
Mexican: We like the neighborhood feel of Ponce's in Kensington. After dinner, go check out a flick at The Ken, one of SD's few remaining non-mega-plex theatres
Chinese: Spicy City. Also like Jasmine for dim sum, but sorely miss Yank Sing in San Francisco-- nothing down here holds a candle to it.
Vietnamese: Our new fave is an old place- Saigon in City Heights. After driving past it for years without trying it, we finally got take-out a month ago and have now eaten there 3 more times. It's a massive menu and will take some time before we're thru everything. So far, nothing has sucked.
Pizza: We're longtime Bronx fans, but after we moved from Mission Hills to SDSU area, someone recommended Luigi's...we've never once been back to Bronx.
Bistro French: Cafe Chloe (is there anyplace else?). Steak au Poive, pomme frites and good wine are accompanied by an authentic bistro buzz. East Village is still on the cusp, but Chloe is one of the reasons you should avoid the Gaslamp and head east a few blocks.
More French: Cavaillon in Santa Luz...worth the trek
Still more French: Tapenade...anyone been since the chef left for Cavaillon?
French-ish: Winesellar and Brasserie. Great, great food (makes me miss Laurel!) with one of the friendliest corkage policies in town
Good food at great prices: Apertivo. It's Italian Tapas (I know, why didn't we think of that?) with generous portions of tasty (if not gourmet) food. No frills, just good grub. The most expensive thing on the menu is $8 and the wine list is well selected too. A bit noisy, but if that's the worst complaint...
BBQ- Huffman's. Old-school, in the hood, like yo' mamma used to make. Call ahead-- it's not exactly slow food, but it's cooked up fresh when ordered.
Southern: Magnolia's. If you ever went to Bessie's above Sushi on the Rock in La Jolla, you know Magnolia's. Different neighborhood, same down home, rib-sticking stuff. Yu-um!
Oysters: Kings Fish House. It's in the parking-lot equivalent of Orlando, but if you have to go there, this would be a good cause. Alternatively, fly to San Francisco and check out Hog Island in the Ferry Building. Saturday's they've got a spot outside in the Farmer's Market...something about sucking down oysters on a dock that really works for me
On the Want-to-Try list:
A friend had dinner at Modus this week. Liked the interior, felt like the patio was unfinished and not as polished as the inside which resulted in something of a schizophrenic ambiance. Food was good, but not great, service lacking. (My friend is a former fine dining waiter.) Still said it would be worth going back to in a couple of months. Loved that there was a parking lot right across the street.
Hog Island Oysters in SF rules for oysters!! I wish we had something like it down here (more wishful thinking).
Buga Korean BBQ is the best in SD at this time. The beef they use is Coleman beef, which means juicier, tastier kalbi and bulgogi. They get packed at peak times, service is generally helpful. The only thing I haven't liked there are the nyung mung noodles (I've misspelled this, I know), the buckwheat noodles in the ice cold broth w/ Asian pear, slices of beef and cucumbers. The other versions are buckwheat noodles in sweet/spicy chili sauce. For some reason, the noodles were crunchy, not soft and chewy. The other thing to keep is mind is, the more people you get to go for BBQ, the more fun it is b/c you can get more dishes.
Modus is on our list of "need to try."
Went to Modus last Saturday.
It's a very bar-type ambience, rather than a restaraunt, but I quite like it. We were inside, as it was a bit busy outside. Got there around 7.30, told we could get a table but needed to be gone by 9 or so - no huge problem.
Starters - I had the Beglian endive salad, which was a miss - the dressing was a bit too much like watery salad cream, though there was nice blue cheese on it (I think they get their cheese from Venissimo). The much better choice was the spinach and proscuitto salad - very good idea.
Mains - I had the pork loin, which was very tasty, but a little dry. Preferable to water-injected and soggy. The apple on the dish was just on the borderline of being too sweet, but pretty nicely balanced. The other main was the braised short ribs, which seem to be having an indentity crisis and was on the check as beef bourginon. Regardless, it was extremely tasty, good flavour, cooked to falling apart, which I think is appropriate for a braised (in the UK sense - slowcooked) dish
Deserts - I got the Belge Lion chocolate cake, which was OK at best - not terribly exciting. The other one was the s'mores thing, which is a graham cracker crust and melted chocolate and marshmallows - not exactly fine dining, but a bit of a guilty pleasure. Very rich, however.
Wine list by the glass is pretty extensive, and doesn't play too safe - their is the obligatory oaked to death Cali chardonnay and Napa Cab Sav, but a lot of better, more unusal wines by the glass - including a rather good Portuguese red, Cotes du Rhone, etc. Prices are $5-$9 per glass.
Service - little slow on the wine side, fine on the rest. Wait staff is young and maybe a little inexperienced, but at least they're friendly, even the devastatingly cute young blonde girl! Distressingly, the staff are more attractive than the customers (except for my fiancee, of course)
The bad bit - the hostess, who I believe is one of the co-owners, is off hand and downright rude. I thought she was a bit off when seating us, but when we walked out, she was in between myself and my fiance on the way outside - not a word from her! Didn't ask if we had a nice meal, or thank us for coming, or anything like that. Bit of a disaster in a new place really. She was obviously antsy about the big party that was supposed to show up hadn't, but we pay the bills too. If you're the face of the restaraunt, you should at least look like you're enjoying yourself, she didn't.
Oh, and the waiter (Michael) managed to chase us down as I left my sunglasses on the table.
So... maybe we'll go back, but only for the wine.
OK to good, I'd guess is the overall impression.
Wow what a great thread!
I'm a student at UCSD (starting sophomore year in the fall), and here is my rotation:
Indian: Punjabi Tandoor: Amazing food, great owners, great prices for hungry and cheap students. The chicken Mahkni is amazing.
Pizza: Bronx: Every once in a while, I go back to Bronx, and realize how great it is. I wish it had more sauce, but the pizza is still damn good. Usually get a pesto, and have recently been ordering the spinch. Very good. Also, Ciero's in Gaslamp is really good (maybe better than Bronx?), but it's hard to get down there for me.
Mexican: El Zarape: I like the shrimp chimichunga. Honestly, my friends and I are disappointed with SD mexican food. We're from LA and we miss the taqerias, burritos with rice and beans ALONG with the meat, and other great dishes. Anyone got any suggestions?
Vietnamese: Just added Nhu Y Restaurant. Went here because of Kirk. My first vietnamese experience. LOVED IT!!!
That's basically it. If anyone has any really good restaurants that are student friendly price wise and preferably closer to the La Jolla/UCSD area, I'd love to hear about them. Thanks.
Modus was OK...nice ambience, food was good, prices were what you would find in the overpriced Gaslamp. I had the flatiron steak and fries for $30. Not bad, but the same meal at another trendy spot--Jordan at Tower 23--cost $10 less and was as good, if not better, with an ocean view.
Next time you're in town, for W-A-Y better desserts with none of the attitude, try Just Fabulous in Kensington - on Adam's Ave, just East of the I-15. Desserts are pretty fabulous, chocolate especially. Savory food is also good, and the cheese plate is worth an order. This is one of the most underrated places in the city, but definitely worth the effort to find.
The il Forniao in Coronado has an incredibly spectacular view too.
Oh yes, I meant the Il Forniao at Coronado (I linked Hotel Del Mar to Del Mar in general, but I remember the difference). I've been to both, but have only eaten at night - with that bay view - at the Coronado location.
Thanks for the heads up about Just Fabulous. I will definitely try it the next time I'm in town. =)
My list goes something like this:
Taste of Thai in Del Mar off villa de la valle (don't like the one in Hillcrest)
Lanna Thai - a new place 4502 Mission Bay Drive shows some promise
Have found that Bay Yok has lost quality in their food, Kat...something on University in Hillcrest had the worst Thai food I have tasted
Bronx Pizza in Hillcrest and Lefty's Pizza in Golden Hills
Eclairs and bread:
Bread and Cie
El Cuevo when I am in a hurry on Washington Street
Jimmy Carter's Mexican on Washington St next to the Sausage King and Lamplighter bar. Dolce, the chef, makes the best spicy soups.
Bay Park Seafood Co on Ashton off Morena
Winesellar and Brasserie - small restaurant over the wine store. They owned Laurel's too until recently. Always excellent food and service. Wine tasting on Wednesday nights and on Saturday lunch.
The Big Kitchen:
Great for weekend breakfasts/lunch (no dinners) and free entertainment by the owner - Judy-The-Beauty. Real neighborhood place that draws customers from the whole county.
Desserts: Just Fabulous Kensington and Gelato's on the corner of India and Washington for coffee and gelato (real San Diego spot)
Breakfast - Just Fabulous Kensington, A La Francaise, The Mission, Cafe Chloe, Park House Eatery, Big Kitchen, Crest Cafe, Bread & Cie, Original Pancake House
Lunch (weekends, mostly) - Aladdins (both Clairemont Mesa & Hillcrest locations), Bangkok West Thai Cafe, Extraordinary Desserts (tuna panini YUM), Phil's Quality Meats (Little Italy), Soltan Banoo, Madras Cafe, Sammy's Woodfired Pizza, the Prado, Aesop's Tables, Fidel's, Pho tu Do, Phuong Trang, K Sandwich
Dinner - Kensington Grill, Buon Appetito, Ashoka the Great, Parallel 33, Roppongi (for happy hour), La Vache, Mama Testa's, Arrivederci, Region, Laurel, Chive, Khyber Pass, Bandar, Hash House, the Linkery (and more - these are the ones that come to mind)
Take-out - Bronx Pizza, Mama's Lebanese Bakery, Punjabi Tandoor
Want to try: Hawthorne, Aperitivo, Hodads, Cafe Cerise, Saigon, Pomegranate, Vagabond
I haven't seen anyone else mention the Mission. I really like their food, I think it's interesting and more healthful than other breakfast places, without being too "healthy". Although I could do without the Mission Beach/PB crowd and attitude (that's the one I go to, Mission Beach). And there's never any parking.
Great post, thanks everyone for sharing. There's a year's worth of happy exploration on this one page!
Lunch near Carmel Valley -
Mucho Gusto Taqueria - good pollo plates. In the Vons strip mall on Del Mar Heights
Kim's Vietnamese in Encinitas - great vegetarian lunch plates.
Beach Grass in Solana Beach
Naked Cafe in Solana Beach
Samauri in Solana Beach
Station Sushi in Solana Beach
Bread and Cie - A treasure. So many good things.
Peets - they know how to pull a nice espresso. (usually)
Carpe Diem on First in Banker's Hill
St Tropez at the Trolley Station downtown
Twiggs on Cortez Hill - great spot for a beer on a warm evening
Casual Lunch / Dinner near Hillcrest
The Linkery - Really dig what Jay's doing up there
Wine Steals - Meat and cheese board + several flights of wine makes for a good meal. :)
Arrivaderci's Pizzeria - great staff, love the shrimp and white bean salad.
Mediterranean Cafe on Washington
Jimmy Carter's Mexican in Mission Hills
Bombay Indian for their weekend buffet - great post-workout meal.
Tapas Picasso, but only on weekends when the owner's wife is cooking.
Cafe Chloe downtown.
China Max Seafood on Convoy
Region - A four block stumble from my place
Misu Sushi in Mission Beach - spendy because of how much fish we eat. :)
(In no particular order)
Pho Ca Dao
The Linkery (LOVE the sangria!)
Lefty's (esp. the french fries and hot dogs--not a big fan of the pizza)
Paesano (I like their pizza best)
Crest Cafe (Cubana sandwich is amazing)
Tajima (the only okonomiyaki in San Diego)
Ba Ren (twice-cooked fish!)
The Fish Market (cioppino!)
Cafe de Thai in Poway (about the only decent Thai place I've found)
Just Fabulous (Eggs Adams Avenue for brunch)
Caffe Forte on University in North Park (best coffee in town, and the scones are amazing IF they've just made them)
Dao Son on El Cajon Bl. (fried tofu with eggplant and peanuts)
Tapioca Heaven in Mira Mesa (nowhere close to me but I'll make a special trip for the milk tea w/boba)
Tofu House (the one near Victor's bar)
Adams Avenue Grill (awesome soups and really great vegetarian entrees--they have meat too but this is a great place to take veggie friends or family)
Parkhouse Eatery (mashed potatoes for breakfast! dinner is great, too)
Golden Phenix in North Park (super-cheap diner-style breakfast and hilarious people)
Gotta second Caffe Forte. They roast their own. I love strong coffee and it is!
Parkhouse Eatery is one of our favorites, especially now that they are on the Restaurant.com discount program. It's the appetizers that got us, especially their house made pate.
The Linkery--we don't "get it". We live a couple of blocks away and would love to love it. Everytime we've had their sausages, they were dry and boring. The other food was good. Just a couple of doors down, we enjoy Zensei Sushi
re: Ms Verde
I don't know what to tell you...every time I've had their sausages they've been great, although I often order other things. Maybe I just have lower sausage standards?
Occasionally they have a Reuben sandwich with homemade corned beef and it's ridiculously good.
I also like the pork chop with vanilla-apple...compote? I forget what they called it exactly.
Anyway, like AliceQ said, they change the menu every week so you can check out their website and see if anything appeals.
I live in walking distance too, so I especially like going there!
As for Zensei, I think it's uneven...the rice isn't very good and I had something with supposedly "fresh" crab that had no flavor at all--definitely frozen or canned!
However, I did have a roll with lemon slices on top (I forget the name) that was excellent, and their miso soup is very good.
Their food and service varies in quality, depending on the business of the night and how good that week's dishes turned out. It is worth a second try. I like to cut a place some slack when they are committed to a constantly-changing menu, fresh ingredients and relatively reasonable prices. If Jay (the owner) is tending the bar, ask him what has been getting the best feedback that week; that usually works.
I've always been happy with my meals at Linkery, but my expectations when going there are different than they'd be going somplace like Marine Room. I've never had a boring meal at the Linkery, though I've had some things that I liked better than others.
I second the rave about their Reuben. Their house-made corned beef melts in your mouth.
This is a North County list:
Chiefs (great Burgers)
Pizza Nova (better than Sammy's, same concept)
China Max (worth the drive to Clairmont)
King's Seafood (superior to the Fish Market)
Taste of Thai
We are sorely lacking a decent deli and interesting Chinese food in the North County.
This is such a good thread that it needs a bump or two...
As for Chinese in North County, the Overseas Chinese in Carlsbad fixes some decent mu shu and a garlic fried eggplant that will give you a full dose of your daily recommended grease. Very tasty though.
Thai Garden on Oceanside Blvd a few miles uphill is probably the best Thai in the area. I have one or two more to try in this part of the county before I've exhausted all Thai possibilities.
Cafe Chloe downtown, Terra in Hillcrest, King's (like you said, although it's a chain of sorts), Vinaka in Carlsbad for their quiches, Beach Grass cafe (for breakfast), Pronto's Market (also in Carlsbad and next to the Overseas is a good deli!), Bety's Tacos in Encinitas for the chicken mole and cheese and epazote quesadilla, the beers at Pizza Port, the pizza at Knockout Pizza and even better at Pizzeria Luigi in Golden Hill. Oh, there are more, but memory fails me this late at night.
I loved Pirets/Perfect Pan - the one on Goldfinch. Had a reservation there once or twice each month for lunch. To get a reservation one would have to show up on a specified date and time and wait your turn to pick out what date you wanted for lunch in the following 2-3 months. This is one of my fondest restaurant memories dining in this tiny restaurant with 4-5 tables. I still use their recipe for making a walnut oil dressing for my salads.
I never went when they were still in the Perfect Pan location, but ate at every other location many times (Goldfinch, Imperial Bank downtown, La Jolla Village Square, Grossmont Center, Encinitas and Costa Mesa).
Cane's just never had that same magic.
I've still never been able to find a comparable baugette or croissant.
A bowl of French Onion or Cream of Mushroom soup, a small salad verte with baugette and a glass of Pirets red wine. Dang. I miss that.
I miss Pirets too, though I was only a kid at that time. I remember going to lunch with my mom at the one in La Jolla Village Square, and driving by the main one over on Washington and Goldfinch. I have one of their cookbooks, autographed by the Mungers, and I treasure it as an artifact of San Diego history! :-) One of these days I am going to try their croissant recipe!
re: Alice Q
I know this is an old thread - but once upon a time Alice I had that same book, autographed by Piret and George (met them at a class at the Annex). Anyway - during a move - my copy disappeared. What I am looking for and hoping SOMEONE can help me - is the recipe for torte de chou. The pork and cabbage deep dish pie in puff pastry. If you can find the time - can you send it to me? Thank you so much for your time and consideration!
Thank goodness someone else remembers Piret's. It's sad, and I'm a very bad person for thinking this, but when The Gathering had their fire, I secretly hoped Piret's might come back
They also had a great one downtown in the lobby of the big, black building.
Peas a la Russe...mmmm.
Does anyone know what happened to the Mungers? They opened a place in Uptown called Cane's when the complex first opened, but it wasn't the same and didn't survive the high rent.
I'm going to add a new favorite here (although I'm happy having the place to myself for awhile) -- Jayne's Gastropub, on 30th, just south of Adams.
Jayne's is a gem. Casual/elegant, inventive food. It feels a bit like Cafe Chloe, without the French accent, steep prices and tiny portions. I've eaten there three times this past week. This is what I've had: pulled roast chicken sandwich, orrechiette with sausage and broccoli rabe, and a totally sublime blackened salmon sandwich. Everything has been delicious and under $10.
Right now, Jayne's is only open for lunch, Tuesday-Saturday. They are apparently waiting for their liquor license to start serving dinner (sometime in February). So many places open too early, and stumble along trying to figure out what they are doing, I'm glad to see this place easing into its rhythm.
By the way, there is a new Phils BBQ opening in Point Loma. Does anyone have the scoop on when?
as a cook at one of the restraraunts mentioned by many of you (mimosa, snort,paladar, joseph to name a few) list, I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart...
as for me, I love Luigi's pizza, the service at trattoria La Strada, the view at Mr. A's and the food at Market (formerly Blackhorse Grill) in Del Mar...Tacos el Gordo and Tacos La Fachada on 25th (especially the cart out front)...Sushi Ono in Hillcrest is wonderful...And if you want a bite late nite, try Modus in Banker's Hill...Hope this helps someone...
First I want to say hello to everyone on this board. I just found this website last night.
I read about Izakaya Sakura last night on ths website and I RAN out my front door to eat there. Hands down, one of the best sushi meals I have ever eaten. The service was unobtrusive and friendly, the atmosphere was calm, and the food....my heavens the FOOD. I had the Monkfish liver, squid, eel with cucumber, and the mixed sushi. (I do not want to butcher the proper Japanese words for these items). A basic choice for a first time visit, but the quality of the fish was absolutely top notch. I finished with a bowl of Curry Udon, which blew me away. I am not well versed in Sake, but the wonderful server made an excellent choice for me. Sushi Ota is my usual haunt, but thanks to all of you I have a new place to dump my checking account.
My rotation. I think the "Dining Experience" is a woefully underrated and dying art in our microwaved fast society. A great meal can be had at a little shack in an urban area, or a white tablecloth room. So here is my list.
Izakaya Sakura (fresh in my mind!)...Sushi Ota...Bronx Pizza...Parallel 33...California Cuisine...A Chau...Pho Ca Dao...Ba Le...Pho Hoa Cali....Tacos El Panson...Etna Pizza...The Mission...Convoy Tofu House...Pamplemousse Grille...Tapenade...J Six...Mister Peabody's....The Omelette Factory...Park House Eatery...DZ Akins...Hob Nob Hill...Vagabond...Al's Cafe....Titanic Mariscos...Canada Steakburger...Western Steakburger...Extraordinary Desserts...Cafe 222...Saffron...The Little Dumpling....Sala Thai....Janet's Cafe...KemoSabe.....
Okay I'm out of breath.
Me too! Are you an East County-ite by any chance? I recognize a lot of familiar names, but I've never heard anything about Tacos El Panson, Etna Pizza, Al's Cafe, Titanic Mariscos, Canada Steakburger, Western Steakburger or The Little Dumpling. I also see that Janet's Cafe is on your list - we live pretty close (La Mesa) but haven't tried it. Any tips on what to order?
re: Alice Q
Tacos El Panson is right next to Etna's Pizza. They have a a large Trompo (verticle spit) with Al Pastor in the window. You can't miss it. They are also open till really late during the weekends:
Tacos El Panson
4433 El Cajon Blvd
San Diego, CA 92115
Sun-Thurs 10am - 12am
Fri - Sat 10am - 3am
Western Steakburger in located in that area between Hillcrest and Northpark, and is a Greek-Grill Burger joint. There is also a Western Steakburger in Serra Mesa, but I haven't been to that one.
2730 University Ave
San Diego, CA 92104
Canada Steakburger is located on the corner of University and 36th. I've been there, it is literally a shack. I haven't had time to do a return trip and post.
3604 University Ave
San Diego, CA 92104
I think Dagney's thinking of Dumpling Inn.....
Tacos El Panson is on El Cajon Boulevard at Highland Avenue in City Heights. Their shop is small, friendly, efficient, and delicious. Etna is directly next door, they have a wonderful thick crust pizza. Al's Cafe is a fun diner in Carlsbad; excellent service! Titanic Mariscos is on Fairmount Avenue, and I think...Dwight Street? Anyway it's around 3500 Fairmount Avenue. It's this weird little hole-in-the-wall place with outrageous Mexican seafood. Canada Steakburger is at 3600 University Avenue. Massive hamburgers. Western Steakburger is farther west on University Avenue, I have forgotten the address. They have a good Philly Cheesesteak. The Little Dumpling is north of Jasmine on Convoy, they are small and hard to find, but the food is insane. Janet's Cafe is in Alpine, and is a good country-esque diner with a basic menu but efficient service.
What the heck, here we go:
South Park Bar & Grill, Saigon, The Liars Club, Modus, The Prado, San Diego Brewing Company (mostly for the beer), The Linkery, The Vine, Villa Del Mar, Zensei Sushi, Arrevaderci, Baja Betty's, O'briens Pub, Phuong Trang, Celadon, Kemo Sabe, Wahoo's Fish Tacos, Kensington Grill, Chicken Pie Shop, Just Fabulous, Ponces, Cafe on Park, Crest Cafe, & goood old L&L.
Many thanks...I'll definitely have to give that location a try having seen it on everyone's rotation. For pho:
Early Morning: Lucky Seafood
Convoy Area: Convoy Noodle House
Would you have any recomendations for pho places around Convoy that are open early around 8:00? Seems like many pho restaurants in this area (at least the ones I've tried and liked) aren't open until 10:00 or so. Most of the time we'll drive from our office around Convoy up to Lucky for an early morning bowl. Any help is appreciated!
Cool. Maybe I'll give Bolsaa a try. Truth be told, I really don't mind the drive up to Lucky from Kearny Mesa because their Pho is always satisfying. I have tried Pho Hoa and thought it was ok, but haven't tried Pho Hoa Hiep. I did notice another Pho Hoa Hiep near my home off of Mira Mesa Bl east of the 15 near Scripps Ranch Rd. I've been wanting to try there as well. But because Lucky's is so good its hard to try new places in the same general area.
Thanks for the tips! I'll have to give their Pho Kho a try if I can pull myself away from the Pho!
found myself at lucky pho on sunday morning with the drizzle and took your advice and tried the banh mi bo kho. definitely different from anything i've tried but very good. the bread was hot and was great dipping in the stew. i must admit i'm not used to the fattiness of the beef, but that's just because i'm westernized. the lean parts, however, were extremely tender and tasty. i was a bit jealous watching my friend slurp up his pho, but i'm sure i'll be back there this week!
Great discussion. Most of ours are on here already, but here are a few of our regulars...
Phil's (we are ready for January to be open)
Wine Vault & Bistro
La Taverna in La Jolla (excellent Italian - and cutest damn place)
Richard Walker's Pancake House
The Crepe guy at the Hillcrest Farmer's Market
Nipon Sushi (one of the only places in the Gaslamp we frequent)
Park House Eatery (can you say Anything But the Kitchen Sink Brownie?)
Zenbu & Rimel's (when we lived in La Jolla)
Blue Water Seafood Market
Salsa Brava (this is a great little taco stand near Talmadge on El Cajon and 49th - best Tacos Adobado I have had)
Just Fabulous (was weekly when we lived in Talmadge)
La Pizzeria Arrivederci
Chicken Pie Shop
Gelato Vera (Mocha Rum Crunch -- yummy)
And we miss Region terribly!
Well, that made me hungry!
Thanks to everyone for some great new places to try...Here's a few places I frequent:
Lucky Seafood-Early Morning Pho
Convoy Noodle House-Pho in the Convoy Area
Shien of Osaka
El Cuervo-love their shredded beef crispy tacos
La Cocina & Mi Ranchito-Ramona Mexican
Lolitas (Clairemont Mesa Bl)-Carnitas
A&J Cafe-Irvine Chinese
In N Out
Filippis-Pizza, Torpedo, & Meatball Sandwich
Domenics (Poway)-Love their Gnocchi
Mama's Fish House-Maui
Tasaka's Guri Guri-Maui
Azeka's-Maui teri sandwiches, but they're closed now
Philly's Best (Irvine)-Cheese steaks
Per Chow folks, I ate at Spread tonight. The owners are a husband-wife team that are committed to serving high quality food. They are accomodating and extremely gracious. The decor of the room is simple and quiet; they have made their food the number one priority. The menu changes daily and is written on a chalkboard.
They have created a line of "butters"; all organic and homemade. I don't even know where to start, everything from peanut butter-chocolate-cinnamon creations to more pesto-esque arrangements.
Sooooo many Pho lovers here. I found a new place. I think it may have been mentione but I'll throw it out here anyway. Pho Hoa on El Cajon Boulevard just west of Euclid Avenue. I stuck to my favorite basic, Tai, the rare beef soup. The broth was deliciuosly clear, NOT over salted, and the beef tasted sweet and rich.
(this doesn't include all my favorites, just the ones I like that I end up at most often)
Mona Lisa Deli (the restaurant is awful) - sandwiches
Spices Thai (M.Mesa) - lunch
Wine Sellar - best food I've tried in SD
Golden Dragon - late night (open 'til 3:00a.m.)
Wit's End - beer only (the owner is a great guy but has an odd approach to flavor combinations)
Nunus - for cheap, tasty burgers followed by many cocktails
South Beach - vodka oyster shooters, best fish/shrimp tacos in town, ridiculously cheap pitchers of beer
Although I've only eaten there once, Sakura will soon be part of this list.
Places I want to try:
Tacos El Panson (now that I know they have the trompo)
1500 Ocean (maybe)
You guys need to relax. Read what I said in the other post again. My issue is with places that charge way more than they're worth. In San Diego, restaurants that fit this description far outnumber the good ones. I'm not the only one who feels this way, and if you don't believe me, read through that thread again:
After a while, I got tired of opening my wallet and letting the restaurant take as much as it wanted. I'm not going to apologize for that.
Honkman, your comment about me not visiting "upscale" restaurants is exactly what I'm getting at! I shouldn't have to go to an upscale restaurant to get a decent meal! This is a city of 3 million people for god's sake! And mediocre restaurants are getting away with charging people out the wazoo! Part of the reason I haven't hit the restaurants on my list above is because I've become so discouraged by non-upscale restaurants that still charge plenty. I haven't exactly been enthusiastic to go throw down $150 for a dinner when I'm fairly convinced it will be worth $50! For this reason I decided a long time ago to just eat at home. Many of the restaurants I listed above have only been open a couple of years, if that. I only learned about them by reading your posts -- and I thank you for telling me about them.
Frankly, enough people agreed with my sentiments on that thread to prove that I'm not the only one who recognizes the problem with restaurants in this city. I do respect your opinions and you have led me to some worthy restaurants.
Show me a restaurant in San Diego where you pay $150 for a dinner but it is only worth $50. To be honest I think you tried a few random restaurants in SD without any research (which isn't too difficult in those times) and picked some crappy ones like they exists in every town, including NY or SF. So you made some comments without having any real evidence for what you said. And you still didn;t name in the other thread any of the restaurants where you have to pay so much money and you don't get anything for it. You don't really sound very credible if you only point always to other poster without backing up your claims with some names.
honkman, do you consider it responsible to rip into someone without even reading their posts? Because it appears that's what you're doing. I DID provide a list of the restaurants in the thread you were SO offended by. Here they are again:
Here is a partial list of places that I consider a major ripoff or just plain bad:
Parallel 33 - ripoff, overrated. All show, little substance
Kensington Grille - overrated and overpriced
La Vache - ripoff, bad food
De Medici (long time ago) - ripoff
Panevino - price doesn't match the quality
La Strada - bad
Old Venice - very bad
Prado - nice setting, mediocre food
India Princess - 1 great dish, 2 bland ones
Brockton Villa - horrible food
Taste of Thai - mediocre
Trattoria Fantastica - pasta swimming in sauce
World Curry - gimmicky place, bland food
Saffron - tried it twice. Worst part was pieces of burnt ginger in my food.
Donovan's - nice restaurant, quality of food does not match the price
The Wine Vault - nice setting and really nice people who run it, but this place is basically only good if you're looking for cheap food and wine, and that's about it. Although I had fun, I would not go back.
A couple more restaurants downtown whose names I can't remember.
Here are some places I like because I don't feel like I'm getting ripped off:
Wine Sellar - excellent all around
Sushi Ota - excellent (if you sit at the sushi bar)
Park House Diner - excellent breakfast
Morton's - I'm not a steak expert, but the Porterhouse was one of the best things I've tasted in SD.
Golden Dragon - good for the price
Spices Thai - good for the price, especially the lunch specials
Izakaya Sakura - just tried it. Thanks for the recommendation everyone!
Ba Ren - just tried it, liked the pork boiled in hot sauce more than the stir-fried dried beef and the hot prawns, but overall great value. Thanks for the recommendation everyone!
South Beach - for fish/shrimp/lobster tacos and vodka oyster shooters
Buon Appetito --- not bad. I didn't feel like I got ripped off.
By the way, unlike you, I have not criticized even one person or their taste in restaurants in any of my threads.
Wow, looks like you opened Pandora's Box....all food politics aside, I want to vouch for some of your rotation.
Ba Ren (Thanks Kirk). I wasn't thrilled with the "hot pepper prawns" only because I can't ingest that many dried peppers. The execution was flawless, though, with good fried shrimp. Still an excellent meal.
Izakaya Sukura-Only one lunch here, but I hear the sushi bar is a bit apartheid, in that you must be a regular to sit there.
South Beach-Best Fish Tacos in the world. My Mom drives out from Riverside just to get her fix of Mahi-Mahi tacos. Just bummed they put Jose's Special Seafood Cocktail on the menu...used to be a special treat.
Thanks for the postings!
You do know that you're not supposed to eat the scalded chilies, right? It is just there for flavoring. You pick out the shrimp(or chicken) with your chopsticks and eat them.
When done right this syle of cooking is a feast for the eyes(the contrast of colors), the texture is great(the crunchy exterior along with the soft shrimp), and the flavors are at the least interesting(both burning and numbing heat - the well known Chinese ma-la, along with a lsightly sweet finish).
I've walked in a sat at the sushi bar when dining alone at Izakaya Sakura, and have never had a problem, unless all the seats are reserved, which happens on occasion.
I think I would agree with most of your list of complaints, but then again, I wouldn't have recommended a lot of them in the first place (and I don't agree with your pan of Saffron, we live right by it and it is a great cheap take out option). Did want to make one comment on Donovan's. Go there at about 4:20pm on a weekday. Sit at the bar and order a nice red wine by the glass. When the bar tenders come around with the little sandwiches (they do this between 4-6pm every night), grab like 2 or 3 of them. They are free and amazing. You can leave there -- if you do this a couple of rounds -- very happy for like the cost of a glass of wine (how expensive of one is up to you).
Thanks so much for the tip on Donovan's, whatwedig! I'm going to try that sometime this week, maybe even tonight. As for Saffron, I guess it's possible I had a couple bad experiences, but there are enough Thai joints around that I don't feel like testing my chances again...unless of course I find myself three sheets to the wind at Shakespeare's and need a place to stumble to...
Tacos El Panson had the best El Pastor I have had in San Diego so far. However, it is still not as rich as what you will find across the border, especially not the best of the D.F. I believe it has to do with the low-fat, mass-market pork available here in the USA. But I certainly recommend you try out El Panson; we were quite happy.
I'm a long time lurker who finally decided to start posting on occasion.
These are my rotation spots.
Seafood: Blue Water Grill
Japanese: Yoshino's, Sushi Ota
Mexican: Jimmy Carter's, great carnitas/pork/poppers/fruit drinks
Dinner w/ Wine (BYO): Molly's
Pizza: Bronx, CPK for pizza and salad
Italian Cheap Eats: Apertivo
Vietnamese: Phuong Trang
Burgers: Rocky's, The Gathering used to be, not sure anymore.
Tapas: Cafe Sevilla
Dim Sum: Emerald is good but pricey, used to like Mandarin Chinese on West Point Loma Blvd. Need a good inexpensive alternative to these.
A couple of others I get to once in awhile: Parallel 33, Arrivaderci's, Top of the Market, Bread & Cie, Best Bread, Extraordinary Desserts
Kanpai-- sushi in Chula Vista
Lucky Bamboo--Chinese in CV
K's Sandwiches-- banh mi
Los Quatro Milpas (but getting busier and busier; long, long line)
La Torta-- amazing Mex sandwiches
Lefty's- Chi dogs and pizza
Karinna's-- mariscos in CV
Hi folks! This looks like a fun game ... :-)
Here's my current rotation, some of which have been mentioned already, some not:
--Big Kitchen Cafe
--Thai Cafe (Clairemont Mesa)
--Jimmy Carter's Mexican Cafe
--East Buffet (Miramar)
--Mien Trung (Linda Vista)
--Cafe India (near Sports Arena)
--Sipz Fusion Cafe
--Humphrey's Backstage Lounge (this is only in my rotation because of a friend's band that plays here frequently. But once here, the bar menu has a couple of great items, and they finally hired somebody who knows how to make a decent Manhattan.)
Hey I just thought of a funky little place. Has anyone here eaten at Tango's in Chula Vista? Tango's is a pretty authentic Argentinian grill. I have eaten there twice in the last four years. The menu is not flamboyent or super progressive, but the quality of the meat has always been tops.
A question for those who reside east, where is a good place for breakfast in La Mesa? I heard there is some Swedish pancake action going on somewhere...
It replaced the purple low-carb, sugar-free bakery that was there before. It's only been open a couple of weeks. I've been wondering too if it was worth it.
The name is actually a "too-cute" play on words: Cafe One - Three. You can't forget that ever important hyphen. The owner must be a Gemini.......
Gemini, third sign of the zodiac and the first point of mental cognition and cogent communication. It is futile to try and out think a Gemini because their mind and thought processes work at the speed of light and they've generally "been there/done that, on to the next thing" before you get your idea or thought completed. Information acquisition is a favorite activity, not that they'll do much with the information, it's the process of information gathering that is the turn on. The discernment of information falls to Virgo and the deepening of ideas and thoughts to Gemini's opposite sign, Sagittarius. Because of the agility of the Gemini mind they are generally witty, urbane, articulate, clever and never at a loss for words. They can talk their way out of a paper bag if required. Words and communication are the Gemini aphrodisiac. Every good party needs at least 1 Gemini.
Now, with regard to Cafe One-Three, read the hyphen as "to" and it will make sense. And, BTW, I had brunch there on Saturday. LOVED IT!!
Just a few...
Cafe Chloe, Modus, Oceanaire's happy hour, Blue Water, South Beach, The Waterfront (I love their burgers and no one ever mentions them), Tioli's Crazy Burger, Mona Lisa Sandwiches, Lorna's, El Zarape, and finally my favorite "clean" San Diego style taco shop--Taco Surf.
Vietnamese (cheap) - I make my own without the MSG
Japanese - Sansei (Carlsbad outlet mall)
Indian - Madras Cafe
Greek - Cafe Athena
Italian - Lorna's, Mimmo's
Pizza - Make my own, Lorna's has good Pizza
Mexican - Fidel's Solana Beach (Tostada Suprema with frijoles de Olla)
Thai - Saffron is easily the best a level above the others.
Spanish - Not in San Diego
Seafood - Fish house veracruz in Carlsbad.
Vegetarian - Roxy in Encinitas