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hungry_san Jul 4, 2006 03:20 AM

I was wondering if there were any good Japanese bakeries in the city, specifically serving good dorayaki, mochi, or anything authentic. If so, is there a particularly good one? Anywhere is fine.

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    calypsogirl Jul 26, 2006 09:02 PM

    i love minamoto kitchoan!

    http://www.kitchoan.com/

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      chocokitty Jul 7, 2006 12:09 AM

      I've tried Lady M's mille crepes cake and I don't find it mind blowing greatness that I would expect and it's so darn expensive for a slice of their cake. I have also tried their croissants which are pretty good but I've had better in other places in NYC. Honestly, I would stick with Minamoto Kitchoan for Japanese confections. Panya Bakery in E. Village is decent.

      1. E Eto Jul 5, 2006 03:51 PM

        If you're looking for dorayaki or mochi-based desserts, it seems like you're looking for a wagashi shop. The only place for that is Minamoto Kitchoan on 49th/5th Ave (they also have a counter at Mitsuwa in NJ). But I don't think you'll find dorayaki there. Actually, I'm not sure if there's anywhere in the US that makes fresh dorayaki. Also, these places wouldn't be called a bakery.

        In Japan, there's also a different classification for bread bakery and patissiere (for cakes and confections). Cafe Zaiya is probably the most consistent of the bread bakeries. While they might be average in terms of quality in Japan, they are the best I've found in NYC for bakery items like curry pan, melon-pan, shoku-pan (bread), anpan, etc. Panya feels a little more homemade, but without exacting standards, so many of their items reflect that. The stuff at JAS mart are OK, but seem like they were made in some factory. The bakery at Mitsuwa also distributes to many of the Japanese markets in NYC, and never seem all that fresh.

        Zaiya is trying to be all things and trying their hand at being a patissiere with a few cakes and mousse-like items, and the mont blanc pastry that all Japanese seem to love. So you can find some of those items there, but I've found that they look better than they taste. But I think if you've had a lot of really good stuff in Japan, you'd feel similarly, but they are good enough to fulfill a hankering for such items. That said, I think their mont blanc is pretty good. I still haven't been to Lady M for their pastries, so I look forward to that.

        Lastly, for other Japanese influenced sweets, I would thing Cha-an would be a good place for that, with many matcha flavored items, and other items to go with tea.

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          Peter Cuce Jul 26, 2006 06:37 PM

          Nice summary Eric. I'm pretty sure Mitsuwa & JAS Mart are the same company, which is probably why it seems like their stuff is made in a factory.

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          Pupster Jul 5, 2006 03:01 PM

          Almost forgot high-end bakery Lady M on the Upper East Side. Run by Japanese in the French style.

          Their offerings: http://www.ladymconfections.com/produ...
          Perhaps not helpful, as I don't think they make mochi.

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            Spoony Bard Jul 5, 2006 05:58 PM

            Mon dieu! Check out the "mille crepes" cake:

            http://www.ladymconfections.com/mille...

            Now, are there more fusiony options at the store? Because while the website offerings look disastrously good, they don't look like they have a Japanese ingredient in the bunch. Maybe the "Potiron mousse" which has pumpkin (kabocha?)?

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            eastvillagegirl Jul 5, 2006 11:58 AM

            Try Panya on East 9th, just off 3rd Avenue.

            1. phflee Jul 4, 2006 03:30 PM

              also check out jas mart on st. mark's and 2nd avenue and panya on 3rd avenue near st. mark's.

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                asdf Jul 4, 2006 03:11 PM

                Not particularly sure how authentic it is, but Cafe Zaiya on 41st across from NYPL has great-looking foods/desserts. They also have the very popular Beard Papa's cream puffs.

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                  Pupster Jul 4, 2006 05:09 PM

                  Also add the Cafe Zaiya outpost on Cooper Square, just below Astor Place. Zaiya is good for breads and such, but their sweet pastries tend to be just ehh.

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                    Nosher Jul 5, 2006 03:25 AM

                    If you're looking for soft mochi, Cafe Zaiya isn't the place, but if you're looking for baked mochi (mochi an doughnuts and yakimochi), you MUST go to Cafe Zaiya. They also do a lot of other baked goods, some of which are excellent and others that are good but not amazing. The sectioned honey toast (comes in bags that sit on the countertop) are fantastic.

                    Nosher

                    NYCnosh: http://nycnosh.com

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                    dbird Jul 4, 2006 02:03 PM

                    There is a Minamoto Kitchen near Rockefeller Center.

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