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seattlesally Jun 28, 2006 04:03 PM

I am looking to order traditional East Coast hot dog buns (top split) for the 4th of July. (Serving crab rolls, instead of lobster rolls) Anyone know where I can either find them in Seattle or order them online or by phone?

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  1. rworange RE: seattlesally Jun 28, 2006 04:41 PM

    Here's an old link with a few on-line resources

    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

    Thank the 'overheard in the boards' for this response. I probably would not have seen your request otherwise.

    You should also post this on the Seattle Board (or whatever it is called) and ask this same question for the area you are in ... sort of, "I asked on the General Board for online resources. Are there any places in the Seattle area that sell these buns".

    Have you tried calling restaurants in your area that might sell those buns? I notice there is a lobster roll discussion on the Seattle board.

    1. farmersdaughter RE: seattlesally Jun 28, 2006 08:05 PM

      If you have a bakery that makes its own hot dog buns, buy them before the bakery slices them, and cut the split yourself on the top rather than on the side. Acme in the Bay Area does not slice their hot dog buns so you can slice them yourself however you want.

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        rworange RE: farmersdaughter Jun 28, 2006 09:30 PM

        It's not the same. It's not just the cut but the side of the bun is different. It is not brown but white bread so it can be spread with butter and toasted.

      2. Candy RE: seattlesally Jun 28, 2006 08:24 PM

        Go to www.portugesefood.com and search for JJ Nissen Frankfurt Rolls. They have them and ship. They are the real thing made in the traditional rectangular shapes for easy toasting on the outside. They are something we stock up on when we go home to nothern NY state. Buy I miss them. You can't just subtitute uncut hot dog buns and get it right. The soft sides and the sahpe make them totally different.

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          manraysky RE: Candy Aug 15, 2007 04:37 PM

          Oh, you just made me so happy! I'm Portugeuse, from Massachusetts, and that site is full of wonderful things!

          http://www.portuguesefood.com/
          I add the link to my post, because there's a typo in the link you gave, and it brings you to a "this domain is for sale" page.

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            MarilynInMiamiFL RE: manraysky Feb 9, 2011 12:57 PM

            I too am from Mass, and am SO HAPPY to find that site. I will be sending for them for sure. Living in Florida, they don't have the New England style ANYWHERE. Does anyone have the link for the Hot Dog Roll pan?? Thanks all :)

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          woodhva RE: seattlesally Aug 15, 2007 01:53 PM

          I know the type you're referring to and thank goodness I still have friends back home (Boston) who can fedex them to me anytime I want but now I can make my own. King Arthur made a hot dog roll pan so you can too for 39.95. The website is kingarthurflour.com/shop.

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            applehome RE: woodhva Aug 15, 2007 03:49 PM

            I'm glad someone revived this from last year. I was just in the store the other day and looking at these horrible things and wondering, what's the fuss? Why do people seem to want these things? I've been in NE just about all my life and have had these things as hot dog buns in everything from grade school lunches to backyard cookouts and I think they're ridiculous.

            First - I cannot stand American standard white bread, a la Wonder. It's just a spongy mass - no crust, no crumb - no taste - who would bother to put this in their mouth?

            So now we take that spongy mass dough, cook a wide flat loaf with splits, then slice the top of each section so you can put a frankfurter in... I don't get it. I understand that we can be nostalgic for even the crappiest of foods - but this is beneath any foodie's consideration.

            The best hot dog places around her are little mom&pops, like Eliot's in Lowell, where they will take a delicious natural casing skinny dog, put it and the condiments (for me, kraut) in the bun and grill both sides on the griddle or in a panini like sandwich unit. It comes out like a long grilled cheese. It's better than having that mushy roll "raw", but appetizing?

            I remember the street vendors in Germany - at the Weihnachtsmarkets and other places - where they had nice crusty long torpedo buns - brochen-like, but longer. They would push these down onto these stainless "pole" toasters, putting a hole into them and then toasting them from the inside. They would then load it with a senf-covered (mustard) long wurst - you choice - bauernwursts, brats, nice livery wursts (I don't remember the names).

            I understand that perhaps, if I still lived in Germany, I'd probably say how could you like these things? And be nostalgic for the NE dogs and the NE buns... but honestly, I don't think so. I just don't think that I would ever be nostalgic for these mushy psuedo-breads.

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              woodhva RE: applehome Aug 16, 2007 09:03 AM

              LOL!! Maybe so but it's not even about nostalga. It's about being able to grill them (panini style - my fave) unlike the ones where I live (AZ). I'll will be in Bradford, MA next week. I'll have to check out Eliot's while I'm there. Thanks for the referral.

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                rworange RE: applehome Aug 16, 2007 09:33 AM

                Yeah, like woodhva said it is about the grilling the roll and the butter.

                Also, I like the bun to dog ratio. It should be about featuring the hotdog and not the bun. Often German sausages are heartier and can stand up in a crusty, heavier roll .. in fact require it. I wouldn't put a brat in a New England hot dog bun.

                Too much bun for a thinner American frankfurter causes the frank to get lost ... and the toasting is lovely. There's the contrast of textures ... slightly crunchy outside, comfortly soft inside absorbing any juices or condiments. With a normal hot dog bun you can toast the inside but then it doesn't work as well with the condiments, sort of sloffing them off rather than embracing them.

                The New England hot dog bun is about featuring what it is holding. That's why it is so good with lobster which is about butter. The outside of the bun can be buttered and grilled adding an enhanced butter taste to the lobster roll.

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                  ionosphere RE: applehome Jul 19, 2008 11:05 PM

                  Oh, while we're at it, the deli's (or lack thereof) and bakeries in Seattle really suck compared to Boston. Noone here in Seattle sells egg bagels, that I know of. I miss the egg bagels I used to get in Brookline. I like Seattle, but foodwise, New England 's got it beat by miles. Top loading hot dog buns, egg bagels, smoked whitefish, lobster rolls, GOOD fried clams (Ivar's, you don't know clams!), real good chocolate cakes with buttercream frosting like Lederman's of Newton had, and finally, pizza. Noone makes pizza here like Boston, especially W House of Pizza in Watertown. And the hot dogs of Salem Willows! Ohhh, the wonderful food memories of New England.

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                    threedogs RE: ionosphere Jul 23, 2008 04:49 AM

                    I don't know how long it's been since you've been in Boston - but, sad to say, it's almost impossible to find a good bagel here now! Most of the bagels I find here are big and mushy - yuk - although I've been told there is one precious place in Chelsea that has both great bagels and - sigh - corned beef... haven't made it out there yet.

                    Still have great fried clams here - don't forget all the terrific homemade ice cream places - we do love our ice cream here! (but I make better pizza than most places here.. ha - I'm so humble!).

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                    CRK RE: applehome Dec 3, 2008 06:57 AM

                    I think Eliot's closed last week.

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                      applehome RE: CRK Dec 3, 2008 09:00 AM

                      You're right - I looked it upon the Sun site:

                      http://www.lowellsun.com/ci_11126863?...

                      quel dommage!

                2. ionosphere RE: seattlesally Jul 19, 2008 10:56 PM

                  I live in Seattle and grew up in the Boston area. I cannot find anywhere around here a place that sells those top loading hot dog buns, so I can toast on the sides. Why don't they sell around here?

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                    Sinicle RE: ionosphere Jul 20, 2008 10:58 AM

                    Because it is a peculiar Northeast "treat" and it probably is not what people buy in Seattle. I happen to now live in NH part of the year and I was, at first, surprised that all the supermarkets here do not have "normal" looking hot dog rolls. Nor do they have Cuban bread, the way all the supermarkets have in Miami.

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                      why_itsme RE: Sinicle Jul 20, 2008 06:02 PM

                      I order mine at netgrocer.com. I order several packages and freeze them. When I'm ready to eat one, I butter it frozen. It thaws while toasting.

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                    cavandre RE: seattlesally Jul 23, 2008 07:08 AM

                    We're in Melbourne, FL (East Coast, aka "Space Coast") and they're pretty rare also. But, good news. In Coaco Beach, right on A1A, there's Mainely Lobster. In the seafood market side, they sell them. They don't do mail order, but if you're local you can get them there.

                    http://mainelylobsterseafoodandtakeou...

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                      Bogframe RE: seattlesally Dec 4, 2008 04:22 PM

                      I've spent all my 48 summers in Maine, and the three things I miss during the other three seasons are New England hot dog buns, Jordan's red-dye dogs and Moxie to wash 'em down...Oh yeah, and some Humpty-Dumpty "Wicked Good" chips. I've been all over Brooklyn and The City and have yet to see them. I NEED A SOURCE!

                      1. Richard 16 RE: seattlesally Dec 5, 2008 12:16 AM

                        For the bakers, here's a recipe:

                        http://www.cooking.com/Recipes-and-Mo...

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                          papertiger1968 RE: seattlesally Jul 15, 2009 12:45 PM

                          OMG!!! I was so excited to see this conversation!! I am orig. from Mass. and now live in INdiana! This has to be the worst place for food. There's nothing good here! I miss New Englan soooo much, especially the food! Hoosiers haven't a clue what they're missing!! Anyway I have been searching the internet to find those WONDERFUL hot dog buns like back home!! There's no comparison! Especially for grilling!! Other than the fried clams & scallops I also miss cains mayo and relish, essem & kayem hot dog links and tripollis pizza at Salisbury Beach!!!!!!!!!!! Just got back yesterday from back there for a two week visit. Was sooo hard to come back here!!

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                            why_itsme RE: papertiger1968 Sep 3, 2009 02:19 PM

                            Tripoli's will ship!!!!!!

                            We've been ordering about once a year for the last 5. It ain't cheap but totally worth it to us. The number of the Lawrence store is (978) 682-7754.

                            And I second the Net Grocer for the hot dog rolls. We get several items from there each year. Things like Cheez Doodles, Drakes coffee cakes, Heinz sweet relish, Fluff, and Munchos potato chips can all be found there. For Habitat Pea Soup we use Home Town Favorites. For Mallow Cups and SkyBars, Candy You Ate As a Kid has the freshest stock.

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                            sonya123 RE: seattlesally Jul 20, 2009 09:17 AM

                            I have been also looking for the New England style Frankfurter buns, except, I'm in Atlanta. I never knew what I was missing until I moved to N.E. and found those buns! It made eating hot dogs so much easier and cleaner! We'll have to either 1) buy off the net or, 2) make our own. Sad.

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                              sailgpc RE: seattlesally Aug 19, 2009 07:53 PM

                              I m from Boston and I just ordered 6 packages to be sent to Naples Fl of the New England top ;oading hot dog rolls on NetGrocers.com. Try that for a source

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                                Rhody Dave RE: seattlesally Sep 9, 2009 04:08 PM

                                I never knew my hot dog buns were so coveted in other places outside New England. And I just take them for granted. Next time I have one, I will think of you all. Cheers!

                                1. carmellanicole RE: seattlesally Oct 17, 2010 09:35 PM

                                  I know this is a little late but you can buy a lot of New England favorites from famousfoods.com. From what I can find they are the least expensive place to shop for the split top buns on line.

                                  1. Passadumkeg RE: seattlesally Oct 18, 2010 05:33 PM

                                    W A Bean's Meats in Bangah, Me, chummy, and wicked good red snappah hot dogs and great haggus.
                                    http://www.beansmeats.com/OnLine%20St...

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                                      JMF RE: Passadumkeg Feb 10, 2011 02:11 PM

                                      I stopped by Beans every now and then when I lived in Winterport, I liked the regular dogs, but the red ones are kinda cool. I picked up several of the frozen haggis, but they were boring, too much oats, not enough innards.

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                                        Passadumkeg RE: JMF Feb 10, 2011 05:18 PM

                                        How the that be w/ the Haggis? They use an ancient Scottish recipe, he says w/ a smile.
                                        Beans ship the rolls.

                                        Moved to New Mexico for academic year, back in Maine only for the summer, but must make side trip to NYC area!

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                                          JMF RE: Passadumkeg Feb 11, 2011 05:53 AM

                                          Let me know when

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                                      Bogframe RE: seattlesally Jul 3, 2012 09:44 AM

                                      Here it is 2012 and I'm still looking for top sliced/New England Style hot dog rolls here in NYC! Does anyone have a lead for me?

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                                        EM23 RE: Bogframe Jul 3, 2012 10:59 AM

                                        Pepperidge Farms makes them http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/Product...
                                        I have found them in both Fairway and Shoprite on Long Island. You might try contacting PF and asking where the top-sliced are distributed in NYC. Here is their contact info: http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/Contact....

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                                          Bogframe RE: EM23 Jul 4, 2012 07:17 AM

                                          I called, and the have them at the Fine Fare at 175 Clinton Street in Manhattan. I'm on my way!

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                                            EM23 RE: Bogframe Jul 8, 2012 06:52 PM

                                            Glad you found them. I was at Trader Joe's today and they had the top-splits in both whole wheat and regular. I have not tried them yet but the regular looked just like the Ho Jo's of my memories.

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                                            Bacardi1 RE: EM23 Jul 4, 2012 05:33 PM

                                            Yup - Pepperidge Farm makes them & sells them all over the country. They're our "go to" roll for both franks & for Lobster Rolls, Shrimp Salad Rolls, Clam Strip Rolls, etc., etc. Shouldn't be difficult to find at any major supermarket.

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                                          kengk RE: seattlesally Jul 3, 2012 11:04 AM

                                          They are pretty easy to make yourself. I bought a biscotti pan just for that purpose. I makes six thick ones or they could be sliced into eight. The pan is 5 1/2 by 12.

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                                            al b. darned RE: kengk Jul 3, 2012 05:33 PM

                                            They also make pans just for the rolls.

                                            http://www.amazon.com/USA-Pans-Englan...

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                                              threedogs RE: al b. darned Apr 3, 2014 04:46 AM

                                              Almost 2 yrs later - I want to thank you for the link! I'm in MA, so I can get all the hot dog buns I want (the RIGHT kind, N.E. style, lol) but I'm saving this in case I move out of the area.

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                                            barb70 RE: seattlesally Mar 15, 2014 01:44 PM

                                            I have been trying to ask Walmart to carry these they do in NE.

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                                              lizelda RE: seattlesally Jun 23, 2014 07:55 AM

                                              Country pride bread outlet
                                              On your way to the airport in BANGOR, MAINE!!
                                              I came home with 2 packages of 8
                                              YES!!

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                                                tex89 RE: seattlesally Jun 24, 2014 10:10 AM

                                                http://www.famousfoods.com/tohotdogbu...

                                                1. DonShirer RE: seattlesally Jun 25, 2014 04:28 PM

                                                  In their last mail catalog, King Arthur Flour was featuring a pan and a recipe to make these. Look on their website, it may be there.

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                                                    Pwmfan RE: seattlesally Jul 5, 2014 02:43 PM

                                                    I live in Minnesota and the only top-loading bun I can buy is made by Kings Hawaiian. I don't know how the sweet bun would work with lobster or crab (I'm guessing not well) but they are a very tasty home for a hot dog!

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                                                      Bogframe RE: Pwmfan Jul 6, 2014 11:41 AM

                                                      Lobster and crab meat are sweet, so a sweeter roll would only accentuate the succulence of the shellfish.

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