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Pizza top 10

guttergourmet Jun 28, 2006 01:10 AM

10. Nick's (Forest Hills)/Adriennes's
9.Pepe's (New Haven)
7.Totonno's (Coney Island)
5.Sally's (New Haven)
4.Modern (New Haven)
3.Patsy's (Harlem)
2.John's (Bleecker Street)
1.DiFara's (Midwood)

Honorable mentions:Una Pizza Napoletana, Luzzo's, Denino's (Staten Island), Posto, Two Boots, Arturo's, DeMarco's, Joe's, Alba's (Briarwood), Angelo's, Naples 45, Patsy's (chain), Sal & Carmine's, L&B Spumoni Garden, Pizza Truck and The Original Famous Rays (6th ave and 11th).

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    wingman RE: guttergourmet Jun 28, 2006 02:25 PM

    I'd add Ronalds on Orchard St. to that list - although my third pie from there was a little saltier than the first two, the flavor rivals Lombardis - definetley worth a try.

    1. ericalloyd RE: guttergourmet Jun 28, 2006 04:34 PM

      to your honorable mention list i'd add louie & ernie's in the pelham bay section of the bronx. not fresh mozz and not a lot of it, fresh, well seasoned sauce sauce, thin crust, nice char, available by the slice, and very pleasant service.

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        drfxit RE: ericalloyd Feb 27, 2010 01:06 PM

        I would second Louie & Ernie's......amazing pizza....especially their sausage pie!

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          Jeffsayyes RE: drfxit Mar 12, 2010 05:36 PM

          I'd only give it an honorable mention. not on a top anything list other than for Bronx specifically.

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        jungirl RE: guttergourmet Jun 28, 2006 05:11 PM

        love Sally's, Grimaldi's and Lombardi's. I liked John's on Bleecker too. there are also a few amazing pizza places in brooklyn in the williamsburg area that do square pizza that is off the chain.

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          english_knave RE: guttergourmet Jun 28, 2006 06:06 PM

          At least six of your choices aren't even on the Island.. i do enjoy the Two boots thin crust though.

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            millefeuille RE: guttergourmet Jun 28, 2006 06:43 PM

            my list (no particular order)

            Una Pizza Napoletana
            Joe's (best slice)
            Di Fara - square pie, half sausage
            Grimaldi's (HOBOKEN location only -- much, much better)

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              mstatt54 RE: guttergourmet Jun 29, 2006 06:28 PM

              Bllecker Street Pizza is a notable omission.

              1. guttergourmet RE: guttergourmet Jun 29, 2006 06:56 PM

                I agree-consider it added-I'd put it over joe's which is way overrated and give them bonus points for offering Corona Lemon Ice King Ices (though you can't beat going to the original place in Queens).

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                  feedme RE: guttergourmet Jul 13, 2006 10:21 PM

                  aside from the others, am i the only one who likes two boots? =(

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                    guttergourmet RE: feedme Jul 14, 2006 02:54 PM

                    I will defend Two Boots which I've been eating since the day it first opened on Avenue A in 1987. Although I'm sure it has suffered a decline in quality and attention with expansion (Vongerichten, Battali, Flay and Lagasse take note)the Bayou Beast-andouille, sopressata, jalapeno on a corn flour dusted crust is still great though certainly not in the pizza purist (police) sense. I omitted it only because it is often described as a "different animal". But it's still great pizza.

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                    chocho RE: guttergourmet Jul 14, 2006 03:20 AM

                    I hate Two Boots. It embodies everything I despise about bad pizza. Strange crust, overspiced sauce, tries too hard. Three friends report getting sick here.

                    1. BackyardChef RE: guttergourmet Jul 14, 2006 02:44 PM

                      Two Boots may be my least favorite pizza in new york city...with the notable exception of most of the lame, plasticy pizza that's been sitting there forever that is sold in many delis...

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                        devil RE: guttergourmet Jul 15, 2006 09:32 PM

                        I don't like Two Boots either. It's all the corn meal they stick onto the crust.

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                          rhodes553 RE: guttergourmet Jul 15, 2006 09:44 PM

                          Just wanted to "big up" Tomato & Basil in Brooklyn, on 4th Ave. near Union St. His thin, square slice with fresh mozzarealla, plum tomatoes, and fresh basil is devine!

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                            mstatt54 RE: guttergourmet Jul 17, 2006 07:10 PM

                            Two Boots in excellent and could not agree more re Bayou Beast.

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                              ChowFun_derek RE: mstatt54 Aug 7, 2006 03:29 PM

                              Apples, Oranges and Bananas!!!
                              We are comparing completely different styles of pizza..
                              "The Gold Standard" New York style (Southern Italian-American)
                              The Huge deep dish Chicago Pizza, and...
                              the Californicated Style...corn meal crust and unusual/bizarre ingredients.
                              Then ofcourse, the "new" "Italian" pizza..with licensed pizzaiolas et al....
                              We need, I think, to find the "Best of" within specific categories, otherwise the discussion is sort of baseless...!

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                                Michael K RE: mstatt54 May 28, 2008 08:14 AM

                                I love Two Boots as well. I have been to 8 of the 10 on the list (never been to Nicks or DiFaras) and most of them do not have enough flavor or a crisp enough crust for me. I like Pepe's ,also out of the area but Da Baffetto in Rome is better than any of them, and I like Vincents Pizza Park in Pittsburgh.

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                                mstatt54 RE: guttergourmet Jul 17, 2006 07:39 PM

                                Also, give T&R pizza on 411 Amsterdam (b/w 79th and 80th) a shot. Its my second favorite after Bleecker Street.

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                                  FoodFanNYC RE: guttergourmet Jul 17, 2006 08:45 PM

                                  Don't forget Frank's on 23 St. between Lex and Park Ave South.
                                  If you're about sauce, no one beats Frank's $1.75/slice.

                                  Rosario's on Ludlow and Stanton saved my a$$ the other day, too.

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                                    devil RE: guttergourmet Jul 17, 2006 09:59 PM

                                    Does anyone know La Traviata on W68th?

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                                      serious RE: devil Jun 19, 2008 06:49 AM

                                      If that's the place between Broadway and Columbus, it's pretty ok but not clean and not comfortable.

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                                      DeeVINE RE: guttergourmet Aug 7, 2006 04:13 AM

                                      Stromboli's on 1st and St Mark's is an all around winner. It may just be the sauce.
                                      For example: they serve a cheese-less Sicilian slice. I reccommend trying it!! You may just fall in love. I think the sauce has a taste of garlic and clam. But you be the judge. Like it spicy? Sprinkle on the red pepper flakes! Tell them to heat up a "foccacia" for you from the outside window!!

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                                        Pan RE: DeeVINE Aug 7, 2006 09:55 AM

                                        Good God, Stromboli's? No offense, but are you serious? Decent if you're drunk at 4 A.M., but a top 10 "all around winner"? I don't think so.

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                                          NYJewboy RE: Pan Jul 18, 2009 03:45 PM


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                                            Pan RE: NYJewboy Jul 19, 2009 02:05 AM

                                            To be fair, their margarita has been quite acceptable in the past (it was very disappointing the last time I had it) - but no other type of pizza is even decent.

                                      2. Polecat RE: guttergourmet Aug 12, 2006 03:11 AM

                                        Though I dare not blaspheme enough to suggest it as a "top ten", I would like to give special mention to another Stromboli's, on University Place - perhaps a block or two south of Union Square - which serves up a terrific white pizza.

                                        Another honorable mention to yet another neglected underdog: Dani's House of Pizza on Lefferts in Kew Gardens.

                                        It seems as if we're so saturated with "top ten" lists these daze...how about coming to blows over a list of underrated joints, or "Pizzerias With The Best Neon Signs"...?

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                                          guttergourmet RE: Polecat Jun 14, 2007 07:24 PM

                                          Many a drunken night at 3am in Dani's...

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                                            guttergourmet RE: Polecat May 28, 2008 05:11 PM

                                            While we're in Queens, my childhood pizza favorites were Alba's of Briarwood on Queens Blvd and Angelo's on Main Street towards Flushing. Both still there and both still great.

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                                              serious RE: guttergourmet Jun 19, 2008 06:42 AM

                                              I loved (many years ago) the Pizza Den in Rego Park. It was my idea of what pizza should be. Do you know if the location moved or just evaporated?

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                                                NYJewboy RE: serious Jun 19, 2008 01:46 PM

                                                Gone with the wind serious. I loved that place as a kid in the 60's and early 70's.

                                          2. Tom Steele RE: guttergourmet Aug 12, 2006 08:24 PM

                                            I like Vincent Scotto's "barbecued" pizza at Gonzo. He brought the recipe here from Al Forno in Providence.

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                                              irvingk RE: guttergourmet Aug 14, 2006 10:37 PM

                                              I have been to the usuals in New York, Brooklyn and Queens, all very good. This weekend I had a clam pizza and pizza with sausage and peppers, found both pies far superior to all the usuals in New York.

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                                                ChowFun_derek RE: irvingk Aug 14, 2006 10:45 PM

                                                Would you care to elaborate???
                                                Where? Don't hold back on us...!

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                                                  irvingk RE: ChowFun_derek Aug 15, 2006 03:30 PM

                                                  Sorry I forgot to mention the place. It is Pepe's in New Haven. If you are in the area, it is far and away the best pizza I have ever had. DiFara, as good as it is cannot compare to Pepe's in my opinion.

                                              2. NYJewboy RE: guttergourmet Jul 8, 2007 06:56 PM

                                                I hate to ruin the good feelin', but Grimaldi's is a disaster. They rush out too thick, doughy, undercooked pies for busloads of tourists and take NO time to consider what they are doing. They disgrace the oven that Patsy built in 1990. HOWEVER, having said that, when they DO pay a little attention they can be sublime. It is a rare occassion, and there has to be NO LINE. But mostly expect crap.

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                                                  kam0424 RE: guttergourmet Jul 23, 2007 02:47 PM

                                                  Where's Lucalis??

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                                                    ajgnet RE: guttergourmet Jul 25, 2007 05:05 PM

                                                    Hands down DiFara's ... but since it has not been mentioned yet, I had a real nice pie at L'asso in Nolita ...

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                                                      guttergourmet RE: ajgnet Jan 17, 2008 06:38 PM

                                                      L'Asso is pretty good.

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                                                        Pan RE: guttergourmet Jul 19, 2009 02:06 AM

                                                        I was quite unimpressed the one time I went there. Certainly nowhere close to top 10.

                                                    2. guttergourmet RE: guttergourmet Aug 1, 2007 01:21 PM

                                                      Just got back from Old Forge, Pennsylvania, the self-proclaimed "Pizza Capital of the World". Not even New Haven, Brooklyn or Naples would have the coglioni to say that. It turns out that Old Forge, population 9000, has more pizzerias per capita than any other town in the world. I thought I was in a twilight zone episode (doo doo doo doo). It gets stranger. Each place serves "trays" or "half trays" instead of pies and "cuts" instead of slices. The pizza is thin square (like the grandma slices of Adriennes, DiFara's, Maffei's, Lazzara's, Jianetto's) but the similarities end there. The choice is with tomato sauce-"red"-or without sauce-"white". The red sauce has a distinctive onion flavor which makes it sweet and savory. The white is an entirely different animal. Thin crust on top (!) and bottom, perhaps sprinkled with rosemary, enclosing a blend of 3 to 5 white cheeses (cheddar?,mozzarella?, brick?, american?!) that melt and meld together to coat the roof of your mouth and your teeth. Very rich, like a grilled cheese on steroids, but good. People who grew up there and have subsequently tried New York, New Haven, etc. pizza swear that the Old Forge style is superior (cue Rod Serling). I tried two places getting a red and white cut from each-Revello's and Arcaro & Gennell. That was all I could handle after having had a beer and wings on the way up from Lake Harmony. PA. In any event, this phenomenon warrants further investigation perhaps by the pizza scholars Ed Levine and Adam Kuban.

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                                                        jacques gaudet RE: guttergourmet Aug 6, 2007 11:12 AM

                                                        i willlike to add Gruppo on avenue B and 11 st.

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                                                        offthebeatenpath1 RE: guttergourmet May 28, 2008 10:43 AM

                                                        1. DiFara
                                                        2. Grimaldi's
                                                        3. Lucali's
                                                        4. Patsys East Harlem
                                                        5. Artichoke
                                                        6. Lazzara's
                                                        7. Vinny Vincenz
                                                        8. Sullivan Street Bakery
                                                        9. Bleecker Street Pizza
                                                        10. Franny's

                                                        This list changes quite a bit, but this is my right now top 10.

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                                                          guttergourmet RE: offthebeatenpath1 May 28, 2008 02:16 PM

                                                          I've been to Franny's but not sure it cracks the top 10. Same with Vinny Vincenz. I agree on Artichoke. Haven't been to Lucali's. Sullivan Street (Grandaisy) is disqualified. Isabella's Oven is on par with Luzzo's. What happened to Lombardi's? Nick's, Dean's and Angelo's are the same family and deserve inclusion. I'd like to throw in Santarpio's in East Boston. If you like Lazzara's grandma slice you'll like Maffei's. Honorable mention should go to Waldy's Wood Fired Pizza. Louie & Ernie's in the Bronx is great. Al Forno in Providence invented grilled pizza. Otto's pizza has gotten pretty good.

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                                                            offthebeatenpath1 RE: guttergourmet May 28, 2008 02:35 PM

                                                            My last experiences at Luzzo's and Isabella's oven have been very disappointing. Crust was too salty and undercooked. Lombardi's is very hit or miss and I haven't had a good pizza there in quite a while. Nick's, I have heard great things about, but have not been, so that is why it is not included. I have been to Dean's on the UWS and was astounded by the lack of service and the poor quality of the square pie.

                                                            Like I said, this is my top 10 right now. Maffei is quite good, but I have not been there in quite a while, which is why it is not on there.

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                                                              nycknowitall RE: offthebeatenpath1 Jun 6, 2008 01:20 PM

                                                              For squares you can't beat L&B in Brooklyn, for slices I love New park in Howard beach queens

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                                                                BigMikeEats RE: nycknowitall Jun 13, 2008 05:48 AM

                                                                John's on Bleeker and Patsy's are almost perfect, however the funny thing is... DeLorenzo's Tomato Pies in TrentonNJ put them all to shame.

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                                                                  guttergourmet RE: BigMikeEats Jun 18, 2008 04:44 AM

                                                                  I recently had DeLorenzo's-while great it ain't John's or Patsy's.

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                                                          serious RE: guttergourmet Jun 19, 2008 06:47 AM

                                                          There is a new place on Carmine just off Bleeker, I think it's called Naples 28, #28 Carmine is the address. It's very good, better than the places I tried recently in Naples. (Another reason not to wait in line at Johns on Bleeker.

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                                                            ginsbera RE: serious Jun 19, 2008 11:19 AM

                                                            thats been around for a few years now

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                                                              jacques gaudet RE: ginsbera Jun 23, 2008 08:08 AM

                                                              have you read wine spectator's issue on pizza? form nyc they mention totonnos di fara una pizza napoletana grimaldis lombardis...anyway how come no one mentions Gruppo on Avenue B?

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                                                            Jon1856 RE: guttergourmet Jul 17, 2009 07:07 AM

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