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  <id>304919</id>
  <title>Maker's Mark</title>
  <published_at>Tue Jun 27 01:16:17 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>41</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>36</id>
    <name>Spirits</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1713877</id>
        <content>my favorite spirit.....what's good to mix with? I usually do a maker's and coke or a maker's and ginger ale...simple enough...</content>
        <published_at>Tue Jun 27 01:16:17 -0700 2006</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>10620</id>
          <name>Xericx</name>
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      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1713961</id>
      <content>Try a Manhattan Cocktail, an all time classic. You can very the proportions to suite your taste, but here's the basic idea: 

3 parts whiskey
1 part sweet vermouth
Dash of bitters

Shake in a cocktail shaker filled with ice, and pour into a martini glass. Top with a maraschino cherry. You can also serve it on the rock, of course. Also, vermouth is cheap -- so get a good quality one to go with your good whiskey. I like Noilly Prat and Cinzano.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 02:09:42 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11296</id>
        <name>Darren72</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1714032</id>
      <content>Agreed, Makers Mark Manhattans are the only way to go.

My favorite vermouth is Vya: http://www.vya.com/

It's tough to find, but worth it.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 02:49:11 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713961</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10027</id>
        <name>Chris VR</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1715359</id>
      <content>Makers Mark makes a great Manhattan but the sweet vermouth is too much. Try half dry and half sweet for a Perfect Manhattan but even better, use all dry vermouth. And don't forget the bitters.

;-) And don't forget to start branding your sour cherries for your garnish right now.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 21:52:02 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713961</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10099</id>
        <name>JudiAU</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1717120</id>
      <content>We like "Perfect Manhattans" too and only use Noilly Pratt vermouths. If you can find the Tipsy Cherries from Sable and Rosenfeld, they are soaked in bourbon they are a nice addition.

Many years ago when I was doing my waitress stint, the restaurant only had a service bar and we had to make out customer's drinks. I remember hearing a customer order a Perfect Manhattan and the newbie replied "I'll do the best I can."</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 28 18:59:14 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1715359</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10285</id>
        <name>Candy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1725156</id>
      <content>Agreed...I've also substituted Punt y Mes (an aperitif) for the vermouth to good effect

Jeff</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 03 20:36:43 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1715359</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13112</id>
        <name>jg1021</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1717104</id>
      <content>I just love these, a little too much perhaps... I do like to cut the sweet by using half dry vermouth. And some bartender recently told me that the bitters didn't matter. Hah! That's the last time I'll order a Manhattan from him.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 28 18:52:24 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713961</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13599</id>
        <name>Ellen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1806205</id>
      <content>I'm a bartender and the bitters DO matter.

Bitters are wonderful.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 14 10:25:50 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1717104</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20664</id>
        <name>therealbigtasty</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1714041</id>
      <content>I prefer Manhattans made with rye.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 02:51:34 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10658</id>
        <name>Atomica</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1714059</id>
      <content>Well since he's asking how to use Maker's Mark, I didn't think it would be helpful to give him rye whiskey recipes....</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 03:00:11 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1714041</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11296</id>
        <name>Darren72</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1714373</id>
      <content>And I thought it was a worthy answer to "Makers Mark Manhattans are the only way to go," because in my opinion, they're not.  I think it's worthy to give the poster another perspective on the Manhattan.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 12:51:25 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1714059</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10658</id>
        <name>Atomica</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1715334</id>
      <content>I see your Rye Manhattan, and I raise you an Old Fashioned. By all rights, they oughta be rye, but ya just can't seem to keep the kids from plopping bourbon in there.

My current bourbon fave is a tarted-up Bourbon Sour.

2 oz. bourbon
1 oz. lemon juice
3/4 oz. triple sec
2 generous dashes orange bitters

Shake with ice, pour into an ice-filled Collins glass, top with Schweppes Bitter Lemon, and drop in two sour and/or brandy-soaked cherries. Yum.

And have I mentioned Bourbon Slush? I grew up in KY, and this appeared at EVERY party.

Bourbon slush

12 oz. lemonade frozen concentrate
6 oz. orange juice frozen concentrate
2 c. sugar
2 c. hot strong tea
2-3 c. bourbon (hey - it's your funeral)
7 c. water

Freeze in a plastic container. When fairly solid, scoop into tumblers, and top with ginger ale or lemon-lime soda.

Pure, slushy, yummity joy.

xxxKat</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 21:41:25 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1714373</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13870</id>
        <name>kittywithawhippet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1716133</id>
      <content>I see your Old Fashioned and your Manhattan (made with rye as is appropriate) and raise you a Sazerac, the true New Orleans cocktail.


Into a cocktail shaker 1/2 filled  with cubed ice add:
1.5 oz Rye Whiskey
2 drops Angosturra Bitters
5 drops Peychoud Bitters
1 teaspoon sugar
shake, shake, shake

Swirl a tablespoon of Herbsaint, Pernod, Ricard or any Absinthe of your choosing into a lowball or cocktail glass - coating the sides  
(some people then toss the remains out, i do not) and pour the shaker contents into the glass.  

Garnish with a lemon twist. 

Voila!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 28 05:07:04 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1715334</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11731</id>
        <name>bodie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1714406</id>
      <content>I agree with the Rye Manhattan.  It was first made with Rye when created but of course, tastes vary.  Some recipes for Maker's Mark though: 
Whiskey Smash - 2oz. MM, 2-3 lemon 'half moons', 6-8 pieces of mint (if small use half amount or to taste) 1.5 tsp of superfine sugar or .5oz simple syrup (this can be to taste as well)  Put lemons, mint &amp; sugar in the bottom of highball glass, muddle, add MM, ice then top with soda or flat water.

S.F. Fog - 2oz. MM, 3 dashes Orange flower water, 1/4 oz of Orgeat (almond syrup), 1 egg white, SHAKE the hell out of it, strain into chilled cocktail glass, sprinkle with grated orange peel

Gold Rush - 2oz. MM, 3/4oz fresh Lemon juice, 3/4oz runny Honey (dilute 1cup Honey with .25cup of HOT water) Shake &amp; Strain into chilled cocktail glass, lemon twist</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 13:32:52 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13548</id>
        <name>countbranca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1714815</id>
      <content>The only thing Maker's Mark needs is a side glass of water.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 17:02:53 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10921</id>
        <name>Janet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1725015</id>
      <content>Janet me'thinks you are spitting in the wind.  But I agree a bourbon a good as MM should not be covered up with all that sugar.  The only thing I add is ice.  I use to ask for MM and a splash but got so tired of being drowned I had to climb up on the rocks.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 03 19:10:52 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1714815</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10390</id>
        <name>1 wiener hound</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1725172</id>
      <content>Agreed. Ya want a cocktail? Use cheap whiskey and doll that up.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 03 20:48:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1714815</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11361</id>
        <name>Griller</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1714927</id>
      <content>Stilleto...

Shot of bourbon, shot of almond liquor, rocks.

Swig, repeat.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 17:50:35 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13725</id>
        <name>Brandon Nelson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1715115</id>
      <content>If you like a classic bourbon-and-ginger, try mixing it up with some very good (or unusual) ginger ales.

I am a devotee of Blenheim's, an unusually spicy ginger ale made in South Carolina.  You can find it in some speciality grocery stores around the country, but it can also be ordered directly from Beverages Direct:

http://www.beveragesdirect.com/products/blenheim/</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 19:22:52 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10242</id>
        <name>enrevanche</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1715516</id>
      <content>I like Manhattans (with rye) and I like bourbon Manhattans, but the unschooled, younger bartender tends to reach first for bourbon or Tennessee whiskey -- many have no idea what rye is. It looks like ryes are starting to make a comeback; a few Boston bars, the kind of places that know how to make a Sazerac, are now carrying six or seven ryes, including some boutique-y ones I've never heard of. I appreciate places like Cambridge's B-Side Lounge, where the very serious barmen know to stir rather than shake your Manhattan lest the bitters cloud the drink.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 27 23:03:35 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10143</id>
        <name>MC Slim JB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1716915</id>
      <content>uh.....what's wrong with just a few ice cubes ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 28 17:48:45 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10506</id>
        <name>DiningDiva</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1717187</id>
      <content>One of my rotating favorites is a Maker's Mark whiskey sour--shaken well, so it gets all foamy. And a Maker's straight up is wonderful paired with a rich, chocolate dessert; like a flourless chocolate cake.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 28 19:23:23 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14366</id>
        <name>gina</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1718420</id>
      <content>I'm guessing you mean Maker's neat (all by its lonesome, straight from the bottle, into an unchilled glass), not straight up (shaken over ice and strained into a chilled glass, usually a cocktail glass), with your chocolate dessert, yes?

As much as I love whiskey cocktails of most stripes, my preferred mode of drinking good bourbon (and MM is my standby) is over a little bit of ice in a big, heavy rocks glass.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jun 29 13:04:23 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1717187</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10143</id>
        <name>MC Slim JB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1724940</id>
      <content>i agree a whiskey sour is the  only way to fly, sweet and sour mix, makers mark and crushed ice with a cherry</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 03 18:23:36 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15873</id>
        <name>beer786</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1724997</id>
      <content>Maker's Mark is nice with ice.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 03 18:57:45 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10743</id>
        <name>yayadave</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1725558</id>
      <content>has anyone ever made a manhattan with sweet sherry instead of sweet vermouth. They're not bad</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jul 04 02:30:42 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13010</id>
        <name>cleveland park</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1729045</id>
      <content>Send me the bottle of MM and I will send you two bottles of cheap bourbon to use for cocktails. Personally I think Bourbon is for drinking neat, or on the rocks.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jul 06 13:30:35 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10732</id>
        <name>JMF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1729056</id>
      <content>I disagree completely. A Manhattan, for example, is 75%, or more, bourbon. If you use cheap bourbon you'll end up with a crappy Manhattan. This is the same reason people use high quality gin for their Martinis. Mixing crap together will not make a good drink. Cheap bourbon is ok if you adding a lot of seltzer or syrup to the drink, since the nuisances in the bourbon will be lost.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jul 06 13:36:27 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1729045</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11296</id>
        <name>Darren72</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1730140</id>
      <content>Personally I don't consider a Manhattan to be a cocktail. Just like I don't consider a Martini to be one. They are just ways to jazz up the natural flavors of the spirits. Like you said a Manhatttan is 75%+ bourbon and only has a little vermouth and bitters to perk it up. 

By cocktail I meant those drinks that have so many ingredients that you can't tell what the heck is in it. Even a whiskey sour which has very few ingredients is overwhelmed by the sweet and sour. I should have been more precise.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jul 06 21:01:14 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1729056</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10732</id>
        <name>JMF</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1734438</id>
      <content>I've yet to have a "bad" Gin Martini anywhere in any bar that used their Well Gin, Darren. If I'm drinking Bombay Sapphire, I wouldn't even throw the fumes of a Vermouth at it.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jul 09 13:58:48 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1729056</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11361</id>
        <name>Griller</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1748436</id>
      <content>Wow, I can't believe no one mentioned the mint julep yet!  I prefer to use a sweeter and higher proof bourbon, but Maker's Mark would do just fine.  Muddle some mint leaves (6-10) with a teaspoon of sugar and a little water in a tall glass, fill with ice, fill with bourbon, garnish with mint, drink, and repeat until the heat no longer bothers you.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 17 03:10:05 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17708</id>
        <name>warrenr</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1768997</id>
      <content>i like it on the rocks with a splash of soda and a wedge of lime.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jul 26 18:55:13 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17156</id>
        <name>melle76</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1789538</id>
      <content>For a hot summer day, I have enjoyed Maker's Mark on lots of ice with San Pellegrino sprakling mineral water.  The natural salts in the water add depth to Maker's Mark.

By the way, if you like Maker's Mark but want to go one step up, try Woodforde Reserve.  My favourite bourbon!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 05 17:19:37 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20107</id>
        <name>YYZSolly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1806207</id>
      <content>Bookers, it's all about Bookers.  127 proof and goes down like nobody's business, very tasty.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 14 10:27:19 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1789538</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20664</id>
        <name>therealbigtasty</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1829939</id>
      <content>Ugh...Woodford's Reserve tastes like paint thinner smells.  My current bourbons of choice are Rock Hill Farms (100 proof) and Pappy Van Winkle Family Reserve 20-year (90.4 proof).</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 24 14:43:48 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1789538</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13700</id>
        <name>ricepad</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1790678</id>
      <content>here's how to make the smoothest Maker's Mark Manhattan
http://www.curve12.com/video/manhat.htm</content>
      <published_at>Sun Aug 06 15:14:34 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>22062</id>
        <name>gymbeaux</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1828773</id>
      <content>I usually order a Maker's and [club] Soda at bars.

I haven't had a Manhattan in a while though. I gotta get me some bitters and me one!  There is a bar in SF called Blondie's, where  I got a Manhattan, which was almost an entire pint glass full of Maker's. It fills up 3 martini glasses and only costs $11. Needless to say, I only had *1* drink that night. ;)</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 23 22:07:50 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14477</id>
        <name>Hapa Dude</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1832487</id>
      <content>If you're in SF, check out the Pomegranate Manhattan at Frisson.  No, it is not a fruity girly drink as the name may imply, but an excellent modern variation on the classic.  In addition to pomegranate molasses, it uses cynar and orange bitters instead of Angostura.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 25 13:59:00 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1828773</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11148</id>
        <name>Alcachofa</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1828780</id>
      <content>I love Whiskey Sours, Lynchburg Lemonades, straights (with good bourbons and whiskeys only), Scotches, Irish Whiskeys, etc.  

One thing I came across at home out of desperation has been my go to for over a year now: Bourbon and Fresca.  

You do need a sweeter bourbon, and as many have mentioned, if you're going to mix it with something, usually cheaper.  I've found that Old Forrestor works well.  

Go ahead and laugh, but if you like sours, lemonades, gingers - try this once.  You'll thank me.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Aug 23 22:11:32 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1713877</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11368</id>
        <name>Dennis S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1830197</id>
      <content>That sounds delicious--I love ginger &amp; makers, but it can be a little too sweet sometimes. 

Floyd's on Atlantic Av in Brooklyn has this special where they'll give you a bottle of fancy ginger beer (can't remember brand name) and a serving or makers and you can mix it to your liking. The best part is after you finish, there's still ginger left, so you just go and get another makers (which is half price, usually). If you do it right you can get three drinks out of that bottle of ginger and pay for less than the cost of two.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Aug 24 16:15:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1828780</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20741</id>
        <name>erikka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1833865</id>
      <content>NICE tip! Keep em coming</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 25 22:04:23 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1830197</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>16728</id>
        <name>kenito799</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1837482</id>
      <content>It might only be on Wednesdays--so call first!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Aug 28 12:44:18 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1833865</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20741</id>
        <name>erikka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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