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5 and Dime Eater Jun 26, 2006 09:18 PM

We'll be in Manhattan for 3.5 days over the July 4 holiday. It's been hard to come up with a list of places to eat but the boards have had great suggestions. Since we live in SF and have some great restaurants here, we wanted to hit some special NY places.

How does this sound?

Prune

Ivo and Lulu (been before, loved it)

Esca (thought the New Yorker peice on Pasternak was great)

Public (recommended by friend of the NZ owners)

Casimir (been before, loved it)

Spotted Pig (husband list)

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    Nehna RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 26, 2006 09:41 PM

    I used to love Ivo and Lulu but it's gotten a lot of criticism / not many defenders these days. I haven't been in quite some time, but just 'be warned' it might not be as good as you remember.

    I personally find Prune to be way overrated but it has many fans on this board.

    Public is very good.

    Some others to consider:

    -Blaue Gans (Austrian bistro, same owner as Wallse)
    -'Inoteca
    -Casa Mono
    -Blue Ribbon Bakery SHOP (drop in for sandwiches to go....fois gras, pate, smoked duck...amazing stuff, very friendly people)

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      jonasblank RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 26, 2006 09:59 PM

      Prune - I would skip this one. Extremely cramped, mediocre food, and probably similar to something you could get in SF, but better.

      Ivo and Lulu (been before, loved it) - hard to argue with Ivo and Lulu!

      Esca (thought the New Yorker peice on Pasternak was great) - A lot of people I know are not big fans, but for seafood in that price range it is certainly passable.

      Public (recommended by friend of the NZ owners) - great wines, but I found the food very poor. Beautiful inside, though-- I really wanted to like it.

      Casimir - certainly good and probably underrated.

      Spotted Pig (husband list) - this place is so sceney I really really wanted to not like it... but it's pretty fantastic. As others will tell you, go for lunch or at an off hour if you can unless you enjoy waiting and celebrity spotting. Also, try to sit upstairs where they have better chairs. They have an Argentine white wine that's divine.

      I would second the above recommendation of 'inoteca and probably Casa Mono, but both again are very sceney/difficult on the weekends. Some believe 'inoteca is on a bit of a downward slide as well. There is also their original place, 'ino, which is more intimate and has the same menu.

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        dbird RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 26, 2006 10:12 PM

        I also find Prune to be overrated and especially very heavy on the butter & lard. Prune plus Spotted Pig would be a little much in any case and suggest choosing one of the two. I would also consider Babbo or Lupa (despite what I just said about fat!) and a classic bistro of some sort as that is something I always miss in California. Perhaps Park Bistro or Lunchonette or Chelsea Bistro or Le Gigot? Sooner than Casa Mono I would think of Tia Pol, especially if you like Piperade, for example. Strongly suggest you consider Craft, and possibly Veritas. It doesn't sound as if you are looking for a Morimoto experience but the tasting menu is spectacular if you are up for something like that.

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          steve h RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 26, 2006 10:27 PM

          Esca is a good call. Recommend the tasting menu with wine pairing. Try to avoid the theater crowd if possible (7:30 p.m. seating or later should do the trick).

          1. Porthos RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 26, 2006 10:43 PM

            Coming from SF, you should definitely do a Batali place, Lupa, Babbo, or Otto. Esca is my least favorite of them all. But the bellinis there and the simple fish prep are indeed pretty good. Also consider Milos for the same concept but more expensive.

            If you can, Sushi Yasuda at the bar in front of Yasuda for nigiri. Pricey, but I'm still scouring SF for anything that comes close.

            'Inoteca is also an excellent recommendation.

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              chips and salsa RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 27, 2006 07:28 PM

              You might also want to consider Cafe Boulud (great Daniel Boulud food for a reasonable price)

              I second Craft and Veritas (best sweetbreads of my life were at Veritas)

              I like 'Ino (west village) better than 'Inoteca...

              1. 5 and Dime Eater RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 29, 2006 04:46 AM

                Thanks everyone! I'll report back ...

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                  DonnyMac RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 29, 2006 04:23 PM

                  If you will be down in Soho or the Village, definitely wander over to 'ino for a few panini and a glass of wine. Get the coppa and pepper panini for sure.

                2. zGustibus RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jun 29, 2006 07:02 PM

                  Make sure you call each restaurant first... I tried to make reservations at Telepan (not on your list... but a good place) for Monday night and found out they are closed Monday & Tuesday.

                  eGustibus Food blog: http://www.egustibus.com

                  1. 5 and Dime Eater RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jul 1, 2006 06:19 AM

                    Not sure how we're going to fit it all in but here's the plan:
                    Sun: Prune or Pastis for brunch (somewhat open plan)
                    Sun PM: ressies @ Esca
                    Mon: Momofuku lunch
                    Mon PM: ressies @ Public
                    Tues: Spotted Pig for lunch
                    Tues PM: Ivo and Lulu (confirmed they are open)

                    Wild cards: 'ino or 'inoteca, Rice to Riches, Murray's Cheese Shop, Artisinal (cheese blintzes)

                    You guys rule.

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                      instantaneous RE: 5 and Dime Eater Jul 1, 2006 06:45 AM

                      RE: Sun: Prune or Pastis for brunch (somewhat open plan)
                      - If you're open, consider Deborah on Carmine St in the W.Vill. Tiny restaurant with excellent brunch & great service. Shirred eggs or duck confit are a must. Also splendid grits. Big portions.

                      RE: Mon: Momofuku lunch
                      - This place is so dang cute. You have to get the pork buns. Pork belly shames all other bacons, accompanied by soft buns and pickled vegetables. Noodle soups are okay.
                      - If momofuku is crowded (likely) go to Rai Rai Ken around the corner on 10th bet 1st & 2nd. Hole in the wall noodle bar serves authentic Japanese ramen and excellent cold noodle Hiyashi Chu Ka. An essential E. Vill noodle spot.

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