HOME > Chowhound > China & Southeast Asia >
Brewing beer, curing meat, or making cheese? Tell us about it
TELL US

Unusual Jianbing in Beijing

James G Jun 26, 2006 09:37 AM

While in Beijing two weeks ago, staying near Wangfujing, I went in search of a jianbing maker for breakfast. I was not surprised not to find one in this rather gentrified part of the city, but what I did find was something I had not seen before. The vendor and his wife had a jerry-rigged griddle like a jianbing maker, but instead of making a crepe they made a mandarin pancake (like you'd eat Beijing roast duck in). They would heat up their pancakes on the griddle, put a little dab of oil underneath, and then slide a beaten egg under the pancake to cook quickly. When the egg was cooked he'd flip the pancake, slather on some bean sauce and hot sauce, and then fill it, taco-style, with lettuce, scallions and cilantro. It was actually very tasty, but I have never seen such a thing before. Anyone else have more experience of these, and perhaps know what they call them?

Here's a photo: http://shuanglong.smugmug.com/gallery...

  1. h
    HLing Jun 30, 2006 08:28 AM

    I've had Jianbing of sorts in Zhengzhou, Henan....as well as recently in Flushing, NY, but never in Beijing so I'm not sure how similar these are. I'm curious to hear how they are done in Beijing.

    The ones in Zhengzhou were made with fresh crepe batter - turned over - an egg cracked over it - turned over again - bean sauce and hot sauce applied - some bean sprouts and raw shredded lettece and cilantro added, fold up in a square, about the size of a average greeting card.

    The one in Flushing didn't have any raw veggies in them, but had a piece of deep fried crueller as the filling. These are called on their menu, "Jianbing Guozi"

    1. p
      Petitpois Jul 3, 2006 09:18 AM

      Interesting - did he call them "jianbing"? In my extensive Beijing bing research (unhappily on hiatus since a bad bout of la duzi) I've discovered lots of different kind of pancakes/breads that are filled with fried eggs. I always thought of jianbing as a crepe. The big, flat tortilla-like bing are called lao bing or da bing and they're often filled with veggies, fried egg and sauce. There are also tudou si bing, which are lao bing stuffed with crunchy strips of stir-fried potato. And, of course, there are shaobing - baked buns - which you can also get filled with fried egg. Or, my favorite, jidan guanbing, small pancakes with an egg cracked in the middle. Yum!

      1 Reply
      1. re: Petitpois
        James G Jul 4, 2006 11:06 AM

        He did indeed call them 'jianbing', despite the fact that he used the 'tortilla'. I am familiar with the other bings you describe, and this was unlike them. If you are in Beijing, and want to check it out, he's in a hutong just off of Wangfujing; enter the hutong at the north end of the first big department store on the south end of the street (cannot recall the name--it is recessed off the street and has one of those big drinks stands in front); he is at the end of the alley leading off of Wangfujing on the left hand side before it dead-ends at the little restaurant.

      2. James G Dec 23, 2006 07:32 AM

        I am pretty sure the place in Flushing is in or near the Flushing Mall that's on Main Street around 40th. And jianbing guozi is the name of the dish as served in Tianjin, BTW.

        3 Replies
        1. re: James G
          r
          RST Dec 23, 2006 06:30 PM

          I've also seen a bing similar to the one described by James in the initial post at the Sunday antique flea market in Xian (no beans sprouts but yes, shredded greens). The folks who made these are from Shaanxi province and also called them jian bing. Note that the word "bing" encompasses not just cakes and cookies but almost all types of thin crepes as well. The paper-thin rice flour crepes used as wrapper by the Fukienese throughout SEAsia (Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines etc) are called "pia" (thus, the lumpia of the Philippines etc) which corresponds to the character for "bing". Incidentally, there's a sidewalk stall near the east end of Dazhalan Jie in the Qianmen area that makes these thin bing but filled with a "wet" (the "lun" of lumpia) stirfry (in actual fact, done on the flattop griddle) of vegetables (thin batons of carrots etc). These looked intriguingly like Fukienese lumpia but I was in a hurry and could neither stop to taste nor to inquire further.

          There are many regional versions of the jianbing that HLing describes, i.e. enclosing a doubled yiu tiao (cruller). One of these version is among the most famous hsiao zhi (snacks) of Kunming and is called the er kuay (er = ear, kuay is the kuay either of fast or of chopstick: I have to check if either "er" or "kuay" take a meaning-transforming radical). I was lucky enough to try er kuay in the area close to the University in Kunming.

          RST
          Opplicario@aol.com

          1. re: RST
            r
            RST Dec 24, 2006 08:28 PM

            I have seen various ways of writing er kuay (and the vendor I spoke to was herself not very certain of the exact words) but the official characters seem to be er = ear but with a shi (food) radical + the kuay not of "fast" or "chopstick" but kuay the unit of measurement (i.e. yi kuay = one piece). Er kuay of course refers not just to this particular snack-form but to the very dense, very compressed rice pancake which is considered one of the most typical food forms of Kunming/Yunnan (it's called one of the shi ba kuay eighteen odd things of Kunming). For more on er kuay, see the chapter called "Ba ba jiao er kuay" ("The pancakes called er kuay") in the excellent guide to Kunming snacks called Kun Ming Hsiao Ji (Snacks of Kunming) by Lao Kai (pen name of Chang Kai Mo) published in 2004 by the Yun Nan Min Tsu Tzu Pan Sheh. I found this book in the immense Xin Hua bookstore in the center of Kunming.

            (Guys, I know that my transliteration is nearly incomprehensible. Sorry-never learned romanization and am guessing the corresponding letters in the Latin alphabet. Hope the Chinese words can be guessed from the context.)

            1. re: RST
              j
              Jerome Jan 5, 2007 05:59 AM

              餌塊 simpl. 饵块 er3 kuai4. I'm guessing this is what you mean.

        2. r
          RST Dec 23, 2006 06:40 PM

          Incidentally, another very tasty Kunming snack (also found near the university) is a thin crepe (made a la minute on the griddle) filled with chile-flecked potatoes cubes cooked down till very soft. I could swear that these were also called jian bing but I have to recheck my notes.

          1. j
            jinjin Dec 24, 2006 11:15 PM

            ok, the jianbing in flushing at 41-82 was different and unfortunately, disappointing. The woman was nice, and they definitely were from mainland (lots of "er"s). She boasted that it was even better than beijing's jianbing. You had a choice of either youtiao, or a big flat youtiao (not the thin light crisp crackers on mainland). Barely any sauce (tasted just like tianmienjiang instead of bean paste) and barely any onions. It was also made differently--the shifu didn't put on the sauce until after he folded it.

            On another note, Dapan (Tai Pan) bakery is excellent. I love the crispy rosong baos.

            1. y
              yumbofoodie Jan 4, 2007 11:57 PM

              Is it DAN bing or JIAN bing? I found two DAN bing videos on youtube.

              Here is the "northern style":

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUWgX8vkHI

              Here is the "southern style":

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIw_XW...

              Is this the same thing? Also, has anyone else had luck finding a source for this stateside? Unfortunately I'm not going to China anytime soon.

              Sincerely,

              Yumbo

              1 Reply
              1. re: yumbofoodie
                Gary Soup Jan 5, 2007 02:02 PM

                Jian bing and dan bing are loosely interchangeable terms. "Jian" means "fried" and "dan" means "egg." All varieties are fried and use one or more egg. I think Shanghainese tend to favor the term "dan bing". (The first two videos you cited were shot in Shanghai, in the university district.

                Jian bing/dan bing is quintessential street food, and its preparation is probably thwarted by ordinances in many U.S. cities. One of the attractions is having it made for you right in front of you; having it come out of a restaurant kitchen wouldn't be the same.

              2. y
                yumbofoodie Jan 5, 2007 12:06 AM

                I typed in "Jianbing" into the Youtube search and found this:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrEyn5A9QMk

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ftEu7...

                1. l
                  laserevolver Feb 1, 2007 09:11 PM

                  hmm.. I think "JianBing" is the correct term, but the way you described it rather reminds me of the JianBing in TianJin (the port city very close to Beijing).. but they use this green bean paste and cook it from scratch on this slightly convex heated surface and then pour the egg on top, then flip and add the cilantro and stuff inside, usually there is another crispy wafer thing inside or those long fried Gouzi things. I dont really know the equivalent english terms unfortunately. I suggest visiting TianJin just for the streetcorner "JianBing Gouzi" I'm quite addicted but I wont be going to China for a rather long while.... :(

                  *edit- haha I just watched the video from the poster above me, and that's exactly what I was talking about, but the lady screwed up in the flipping bit lol
                  I miss Chinaaaa

                  Show Hidden Posts