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Looking for good Chaozhou food in SF

OK, I know this topic has been discussed previously but not recently I believe so maybe there is updated info.

A friend from the Chaozhou area is visiting next weekend and is hoping to find some good home cooking. Are there any places for good Chaozhou cuisine, particularly the oyster pancakes, actually in San Francisco (no time to drive down to Milpitas)?

Thanks folks!

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  1. Your friend should be made aware that the Chaozhou cooking in SF is mostly via Vietnam or Thailand, so it will be a bit different than what's found at home today.

    The owners of Lam Hoa Than on Irving are Chaozhou from Vietnam and it has a few dishes. I can personally recommend the preserved orange skin duck noodles and also the chaozhou style chow mein. Others have had the oyster pancake there and recommend it. Here's a link to one thread -

    http://chowhound.com/topics/show/36739

      1. re: Nancy Berry

        Thanks for the link, Nancy. Some of the Chaozhou dishes are identified as "Trieu Chau" on the menu, others are not. The staff speak several Chinese dialects, so it should be easy enough for the OP's friend to ask about any specialties.

      2. I agree that the Chaozhou food scene locally is spotty at best. You might do your friend a favor and treat him/her to some of the best Cantonese food instead. It certainly won't be umfamiliar to your guest.

        1. not the best, but u can try
          Golden Island Restaurant @ Milpitas

          1. There was a Chiu Chao restaurant in Chinatown some years ago (I ate there in the 80s) that I think had a decent reputation, I can't remember the name. Maybe it's long gone?

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            1. re: Peter Cherches

              That may have been the original Ton Kiang, which split into the current Ton Kiang in the Richmond District, and the current Mon Kiang at the orginal Broadway location. All I can say is that the original whole was greater than the sum of its two current parts.

              1. re: Gary Soup

                Mon Kiang and Ton Kiang in their original formats served Hakka and Cantonese cuisine, not Chaozhou.

                Oriental Pearl in SF Chinatown used to have a few ChaoZhou (Chiu Chow) dishes, as do most Hong Kong-style restaurants, no oyster pancake though. But I haven't been back since the time of this posting -
                http://chowhound.com/topics/show/23690

                1. re: Gary Soup

                  Mon Kiang split off from Ton Kiang? I thought Ton Kiang moved to handle the crowds after the Chron and NY Times reviews, and the new owners saved money by changing only one letter on the sign.

                2. re: Peter Cherches

                  Actually there was a restaurant in the 1980s and early 1990s simply called Chiu Chow Restaurant at 1326 Powell St., now home to something called Happy Chinese Restaurant. At the time, Chiu Chow was the only establishment to have identically named restaurants in both San Francisco Chinatown and Los Angeles Chinatown, perhaps a feat that has never been equalled.

                  1. re: Chandavkl

                    Interesting! When Fook Yuen in Millbrae first opened, it had several Chiu Chow dishes on the menu (tofu, seafood preps). When I'd heard that the chef at the new restaurant in Seafood Harbor's old venue, The Kitchen, was from FY, I had hoped there might be some added. Not yet, but we'll see how it evolves.

                    More about The Kitchen -
                    http://chowhound.com/topics/show/303324

                3. No, it was neither Kiang.

                  I found it:

                  Golden Pagoda
                  960 Grant Ave. above Washington in Chinatown. Tel. 415.397.1411
                  $$. Dishes of Chiu chow (aka Chao Chow), a small area not far from Canton. Try the oyster omelet or the pan-fried pomfret.

                  http://www.sanfrancisco.com/dining/ch...

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                  1. re: Peter Cherches

                    Thanks, Peter.

                    That address, upstairs, has been Hong Kong Clay Pot City or more recently Hong Kong Dim Sum. Here's a link to the chowdown report from 2 years ago.

                    http://chowhound.com/topics/show/28761

                    I couldn't find any current listings for Golden Pagoda in SF, and the phone number you provided rings at Specialties, a sandwich shop.

                  2. Sorry for the out-of-date info. Damn internet!

                    1. Golden Pagoda!!! They went out of business almost 10 years ago!

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                      1. re: Chandavkl

                        I can always count on you to know every piece of SF Chinatown real estate. (g) No other ideas for the OP?

                      2. UPDATE: Another friend called around and found that Narai, a Thai restaurant in the Richmond District (2229 Clement, near the 4-Star Theatre) would make an authentic Chaozhou oyster pancake on request. It was excellent, my Chaozhou friend was very pleased. There was a crispy base made with sweet potato flour and cooked with the oysters, then the scrambled eggs were poured on top. If you're looking for Chaozhou oyster pancakes in SF check this place out.

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                        1. re: bambooo

                          Splendid! Any other Chaozhou dishes tried at Narai that you'd recommend?

                          1. re: Melanie Wong

                            no, we asked for a couple of other things but they didn't have the ingredients on hand so otherwise we just ate off of their menu. However, they seemed willing to make special dishes when the ingredients were available. So if there's anything you're really craving you might try calling in advance to see if they'll make a special order.

                            1. re: bambooo

                              I called the phone number and it's disconnected.