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iLoveFood May 7, 2006 01:23 PM

Bugs in Rice-Is it still edible?

I have a giant bag of jasmine reice I bought a few months ago and it now has these tiny little gray bugs in it. Some are dead and others are alive and when I rinse my rice they float to the surface.

The weird thing is that I had one air-tight container for daily use in the kitchen and another one to store the larger quantity in the garage and both have the same bugs. This has never happened to me before with rice even in large quantities used over the period of several months (normally purchased at an asian market such as Ranch 99) so I assume there was something in the bag when I bought it.

Is this rice safe to eat after I rinse it and see no more bugs float up to the surface or should I try and take it back to Costo...would they even take it back considering I bought it so long ago?

Thanks in advance.

  1. Cheeryvisage Nov 25, 2011 08:33 AM

    The bugs are edible. They show up in the cooked rice sometimes if I didn't get rid of all of them when rinsing. I shrug and continue to eat it, think of it as extra protein. :)

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      Muchlove Nov 24, 2011 09:45 AM

      Just to give a perspective from another country, in India rice, wheat, flour, dal, etc. very often has bugs in it. Personally, I have found that rice is worst for this. If people were scared and fussy, no-one would eat anything. You just have to do your best to get rice from a good source and rinse/wash well before using.

      One good tip is to put all grains, dal, etc. in the freezer for a few hours. Apparently it kills the bugs and then they easily float to the surface when you wash the rice. This was told to me by a friend who got it from her mother and I have used it ever since. Does it work? Well, since I started using it I have never found living bugs in my grains and yes the dead bodies easily float to the top when washing!

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        ospreycove Nov 25, 2011 04:58 AM

        Bugs in rice, parasitic worms in seafood, rat hairs in your hamburger; .....well who said "Life is not risk free"? Grin and eat it.....(if it is natural and humanely raised)

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          Sushiqueen36 Nov 25, 2011 09:37 PM

          And sometimes when I wash the lettuce I've grown in my own garden, I find small pea-sized slugs. I wonder when I miss one of these creatures and chomp into one if I will eat my own lettuce ever again.

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            pine time Nov 26, 2011 01:49 PM

            Once bought organic broccoli, tossed it into the fridge, planning to wash & cook it in the evening. Grabbed it about 5 p.,m., only to find a large green wormy thing crawling from the bag. Tossed the worm outside, washed the broccoli, and it was delicious.

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        freia Nov 24, 2011 09:10 AM

        O.M.G. Now I KNOW there are bugs and insect parts and stuff in things we eat. I'd just rather not have to face the little guys eyeball to eyeball.
        Personally? I'd chuck the rice and buy some new stuff. Might be a psychological thing, but really, rinsing bugs outta rice and hoping for the best isn't my idea of a good meal.
        I've had bugs hatch out of stuff before, and I store pretty much everything in sealed plastic bags (due to an unfortunate carpenter ant infestation 2 years ago, it scarred me for life if you really wanna know the truth).
        SO, I'm happy to feign ignorance of what is in my cereals/grains until I have evidence of hatching, then I dump the lot and move on.
        Look at it this way, if you went back to Costco to return it, would they put it back on their shelves for resale? And would you buy a bag of rice with active bugs in it? You'd probably shriek in horror and let the management know. Same goes with home storage. It costs virtually nothing to replace the rice. That's what I would do.

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          AsperGirl Nov 23, 2011 07:00 PM

          I wash the rice & use it, if there are just a few discrete and easily spotted weevils in there, and the grains look good. When it comes to moth larvae, or anything else that makes little webby clumps, or makes the rice grains look messed up, I would toss it.

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            EWSflash Nov 26, 2011 08:47 AM

            That sounds perfectly reasonable

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            MRS Nov 23, 2011 06:59 PM

            EWWWW!!!!!!!!!

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              sandychannel Nov 23, 2011 06:49 PM

              reading all the replies are so reassuring. those tiny little gray bugs totally freaked me out!!! what are they called any way?

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                ipsedixit Nov 23, 2011 07:18 PM

                Flavor.

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                  ricepad Nov 24, 2011 09:52 AM

                  They're not bugs, they're features.

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                  jindomommy Sep 21, 2010 11:10 PM

                  When my dad traveled to Vietnam, he said you couldn't get any bread in Saigon that didn't have dead bugs in it. It's just extra protein and won't hurt you. Just pick them out. The rice boils, killing any bacteria.

                  1. al b. darned Sep 21, 2010 04:44 PM

                    I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I haven't ever seen bugs in my flour, rice, or pasta. I've only had them once, many years ago, in a package of Quaker oats. I don't do anything special, either.

                    I'm sure I have now jinxed myself, and will soon be overrun with critters.

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                      ospreycove Sep 21, 2010 05:02 PM

                      As mentioned above, all grains have insect eggs in them they are dormant but will hatch when the conditions are right. There is even a USDA maxmium allowable standard for insect eggs, rodent hairs, bug parts, and other natural little goodies. Do yopu know haw miuch of these critters you have consumed over your lifetime in processed foods? It is all protein!!!!!

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                        al b. darned Sep 22, 2010 08:24 PM

                        Sometimes, the less you know....

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                      abite4u Sep 21, 2010 03:55 PM

                      I recently discussed bugs in my rice with my daughter-in-law. I remember my great-grandmother putting all pasta, rice and meals in her deep freezer. My grandmother used bay leaves. My mother just bought less rice. I discovered that all 3 methods are very effective, but I’ve never had bugs in my rice until recently. So, I’m going to start freezing the next rice, flour and meals that I buy.

                      However, I’ve solved my present dilemma by using a large strainer to shake out any bugs in my uncooked rice. (Food costs too much to throw away!) I do this over a white paper towel in order to see the bugs. Then I put bay leaves in the container with the strained rice and seal the opening with cling wrap. After that I put the top on the container. I have had no trouble since.

                      You can, however, simply rinse the rice until no more bugs appear on top. Also, double-check the rice just before it comes to a boil. If any stragglers are left, they would appear just before the boil. As a result, you rinse them away and there’ll be no bugs in your cooked rice.

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                        David Kahn May 8, 2006 09:09 PM

                        A ten pound bag of jasmine rice costs what? $10? Without any hesitation I'd chuck it and buy new rice. Considering the lengths we go to to find the best tasting, freshest, highest quality ingredients, why in heaven's name would you want to eat bug-infested rice? Seriously, if a friend served me buggy rice, that would be the last time I ever consumed anything he or she prepared.

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                          Jim Washburn May 8, 2006 11:39 PM

                          All rice is buggy. It's a matter of degree. I eat a hell of a lot of rice and buy it in big bags. Before it all gets used up there are almost invariably some visible bugs in it. I just wash them out. This works. The finished rice I eat and serve to guests NEVER has any visible bug parts in it. Looks great. Tastes great. There is no rational reason to throw out buggy raw rice.

                          Jim

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                          MikeG May 8, 2006 09:29 AM

                          Whether it grosses you out only you can decide, but it's absolutely edible and absolutely safe to eat.

                          That being said, if it's a new bag you hadn't opened yet, I'd probably return it too (or better yet, start checking the bags before you buy them.) I'm willing to live with minor insect issues as the price of leaving stuff lying around for a while in my own kitchen, but if it's in that condition when you buy it, it's been lying around somewhere for a while already. With things like grains and dried chiles (another common occurrence), I consider it a freshness issue more than anything else.

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                            Dorothy May 7, 2006 10:31 PM

                            The bugs were in the rice when you bought it. At least their eggs were. That's why they're in both containers.

                            One reason to use airtight containers is so the bugs don't travel among your foods -- from the rice to the cornmeal to the granola . . . you get the picture.

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                              rworange May 7, 2006 07:58 PM

                              The responses are amusing. There was a similar thread last year (linked below) where the response was the exact opposite.

                              Basically the consensus was that rice and bugs go together. Don't be a wuss about it and just rinse the rice and eat it.

                              Personally, I would toss it. But I'll bet I've eaten my share of rice separated from varmits in any number of restaurants. I just don't want to know about it. Dirty rice indeed.

                              Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

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                                adamclyde May 7, 2006 09:46 PM

                                yeah. And about the costco front, I know they'll take it back. they don't ask when you bought it. If you just have your card, they'll give you a refund on a costco gift card...

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                                toodie jane May 7, 2006 06:38 PM

                                Not to make you more squeamish, but about 20 yrs ago, there was a special on a PBS station about grains and the way they are fumigated with fairly harsh chemicals as they go into storage, and when packaged. It said the practice was virtually universal in this country. Otherwise, when you opened any grain pkg, it would be infested with weevils, etc.

                                Grocery stores also regularly spray their cereal isles, because of eggs hatching in packages. Yet another reason to shop at a health food store, where presumably they would not do this.

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                                  MZG May 7, 2006 07:14 PM

                                  Oh no no no!!!!!!!!! My local co-op so called health food store is where some of my worst weevil/miller infestations have come from. Unless you keep any dried bulk and boxed grain/cereal products from them in the freezer and in tightly closed containers you are going to have major infestation problems

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                                    Jef May 8, 2006 12:19 AM

                                    I think the scientific name for these insects is "co-op moths" :-)

                                    If your grain and flour hasn't been harshly fumigated during
                                    processing, you're going to have some bugs in there. If you
                                    think about it in a certain way, it's the lack of bugs that's
                                    frightening.

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                                    DanaB May 8, 2006 05:45 AM

                                    If I've ever heard an urban myth, this is it:
                                    "Grocery stores also regularly spray their cereal isles, because of eggs hatching in packages."

                                    That aside people, food is prone to pests. Rice and grains in particular. Storing grains properly alleviates most concerns: keep them in a cool place; keep open grains and pasta, or grains and pasta not sold in airtight packaging, in sealed containers; and only buy a quantity you are likely to use up relatively quickly.

                                    The bugs that appeared in the original poster's rice would probably be a welcome addition in some parts of the world. Here where we like our food hermetic, just rince them off and you'll be fine. The worst that would happen is that your guests would get a little extra protein. Oh, the horror! In the future you can prevent it by storing the grains properly, and not buying more than you will use in a reasonable time.

                                    Food is not the enemy.

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                                      Scottso May 8, 2006 09:46 AM

                                      Try putting bay leaves in the container. A friend swears they repel the little creatures.

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                                        toodie jane May 8, 2006 12:23 PM

                                        ....of course, he could have been lying, but this spray info came to me from a friend who worked the night stocking crew at a local chain grocery....

                                        and, yes, been freezing grain and/or using bay leaves since the 70's. Store in airtight glass jars in pantry. Bugs don't bother me, unless they make a mess in the cupboards. Extra protein!

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                                      Babette May 7, 2006 04:10 PM

                                      Even though bugs add protein...yuck! I would take it back. Don't know from experience but I read on this board that Costco had a reasonable return policy. (I've also read that putting grains in the freezer for 24 hrs after purchase obviates this problem--I end up just storing them there--they last longer).

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                                        Wayne Keyser May 7, 2006 03:41 PM

                                        Let's see ... you rinse the rice, and rinse and rinse until no more bugs float out.

                                        Then you cook the rice. And when you serve it, it's MOSTLY free of bugs. Oops - there's one or two in the middle of (what would have been) your next forkful.

                                        How do you feel about the rice, and about your whole dinner after that? It's either going to cast a pall over the whole dinner ("Don't be silly Mom, Sis, Honey ... it's only just a FEW bugs!") or else it's the darnedest new diet aid around (cook something cheap, 'cause you won't be eating it, and it won't look any better the next day.)

                                        Trash the rice and buy somewhere else next time.

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                                          acme May 7, 2006 03:33 PM

                                          i had the same problem. i read that a few bay leaves placed inside the container of rice will keep those little critters away. it seems to have worked and now i put the bay leaves in all of my different rice containers. hope this helps.

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                                            Ms. Plaza Street May 7, 2006 06:26 PM

                                            I do the same thing for all sorts of grains, including oatmeal. This is an old trick of my mother's.

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                                            Candy May 7, 2006 02:14 PM

                                            They are an annoyance, just rinse and use the rice. All grains have them, it is just storage that hatches them out. If grains, pasta, cereals,flour, mixes etc. are exposed to the right amount of heat you will have bugs. I have even had them hatch out in freshly ground new chili powder. At one time I thought I was being bright keeping crackers and cereals in the cupboard over my wall oven reasoning that the heat from the oven would keep them crisp. After I had to take the entire kitchen apart and all of the shelving out and get a q-tip to dig out the larvae from the shelf peg holes I almost learned my lesson. What I neglected to do is move the dog kibble from the cupboard next to the dishwasher. After learning, dog kibble is stored in my garage which is always cool being on the lowest level and birdseed is kept in a covered container down there too.

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                                              Akatonbo May 8, 2006 09:23 AM

                                              I had done the same thing - keeping grains in the cupboard above my stove hood. Now all I keep there is glassware that I don't use very often.

                                              To get back to the original issue - yes, everything has bugs. I wash rice well and if there are any dead bugs I rinse them away. I have never had a dead bug corpse show up in cooked rice, because even a live bug will float to the top of a pot of water. I do sometimes have to get the last bits out of the simmering pot before I put the top on.

                                              I stop short at bugs in flour. This happens infrequently, and when it does, I toss the flour.

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