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Sep 12, 2005 04:03 PM

Bugs in rice.

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There are flying insects in my bag of rice. Is throwing it all out the only solution?

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    1. re: MORE KASHA

      What should I do to prevent any remnants from infesting the next bag of rice?

      1. re: Peter

        I store all this stuff in the freezer. Rice, flour, bread crumbs, grains and cereal all that stuff. No problem.

        1. re: Peter
          Amin (London Foodie '''')

          Array Ba-baa Peter, You cannot prevent any of your bugs that are already in your bag of rice from infecting the next bag of rice. Each bag of rice most likely already contains their own larvae (remember that from their origin in India, Pakistan, Vietnam, Thailand, China, or wherever, the rice has most likely sat a while in open conditions, insects have given larvae and all this while the rice has been processed, milled, packed, trucked, containerised, shipped, arrived in the US of A, gone into storage, sold to the distributor.......and you have then gone to your local supermarket and brought it home, having paid $$ for the rice (with the larvae thrown in free).

          The only way you can prevent these bugs from infecting (producing more larvae) is by teaching them how to have safe sex. Foreget it, you cant.

          Please read my earlier message and enjoy your rice.

          OK, its midnight over here and have had a long day so goodbye.

          1. re: Amin (London Foodie '''')

            Hey, I thought rice came from the Sacramento Valley or Louisiana. Ok, China too. But I don't think China exports much.

            1. re: Robert

              yeah. actually, I heard once that arkansas was the biggest producer and exporter of rice in the US...

              1. re: Robert

                If you go to an asian grocery store (or even costco) you will get a different picture. Basmati comes mainly from Pakistan, the favored long grain jasmine rices, as well as specialty rices such as round grain (sweet) rice come from SE asia, mainly, arborio rice from italy, etc. etc. The japanese style short grain rice that we find in our stores here mostly comes from Cal. and is exported to Japan, Korea etc too.

              2. re: Amin (London Foodie '''')

                Very true. I saw rice being processed all over Vietnam. Often huge bags would be stacked on bare ground with barely any shelter and I even saw rice being spread out along the side of major roads to dry? (or whatever). I would worry more about the possible rodents that came into contact with it than the bugs. But maybe nobody really wants to think about that.

          2. I agree, throw the rice out. Now, if you have to save that particular bag of rice, does it have sentimental value?, you could freeze it until all the bugs are dead. But even for a 5 lb bag of rice that takes a long, long time and then you still have to wash the dead bugs out of the rice before you use it. And you have to keep the rice in the freezer because you can never be certain the insect eggs won't survive. I actually had to do this once to placate a roommate whose fugality had crossed the line into insanity. It's your life and it's your rice: which is worth more to you?

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            1. re: chortle

              Well actually it's 2 25lb bags of rice, one white and one brown. So it's not insignificant, though not compared to life itself.

              1. re: Peter

                what to do depends on what kind of insects you have. If its the dirty grey meal moths about 1/8 inch long that flutter around, you will need to act or your rice will be ruined. - if there are a lot of them in there it will be ruined already - just a few you can cope with .

                If they are little skinny black beetles, they are not quite so destructive as the meal moths.

                I would sieve the rice first - put it in a fine strainer and jiggle it around - that will get out the debris and most of the bugs, if they are small.

                repackage the rice airtight in glass or plastic so you can keep an eye on it and freeze if possible to kill the bugs.

                I just repackaged a big bag of jasmine with both types of bugs - there are still a few of the black guys in there, but the rice still smells and looks good, and these beetles will float out of the rice when you wash it before cooking.

                1. re: jen kalb

                  Thanks, it's the meal moths. I'll try the re-packaging method. What about the future? Will I have problems with new bags of rice?

                  1. re: Peter

                    There was a thread in the "Not About Food" section last week or so, where I posted some links to university entomology departments. These are likely Indian Meal Moths. They are hard to eradicate, and short of never buying any grains or cereals, you'll bring more in eventually.

                    1. re: Peter

                      On a past CH thread I read that grains, etc. brought into the house could be placed in the freezer for 24 hrs. to kill bugs, then stored in cabinet. I did this with all my grains. I was worried because my birdseed in the garage had a BIG hatch and it's just off the kitchen. I've had no problems in my cabinet. But I continue to do the 24 hour freeze thing when I buy stuff. That doesn't make them immune to future birdseed problems, though. Glass jars are your friend.

                      1. re: Peter

                        I have lots of experience and problems with meal moths - with rice, mostly they start to be an issue after the bag is opened, so get it sealed up tight or repackage immediately.

                        Usually mealmoths dont go for white rice. Lookout for birdseed though, which is "dirtier" - I just had to dump a big bag that caused a major infestation in my pantry. Keep it out of the house if you can.

                  2. re: chortle

                    Hey! You like things 'natural' right? NoW it's natural.
                    Yum; protein!
                    Freezing for 24 hours kills the bugs. (Oh the horrror! LOL)
                    Rinsing the rice, and dumping the floating bodies clues you
                    to the kill.

                    I find it to be much more of a problem with Indian Basmati Brown, and Madagascar Pink. I give a freezer treatment to these before opening the bag.
                    HUGE bag from Costco? No retail outlet has an easier return policy than Costco. No receipt? No problem... they can look-up any of your previous purchases easily. Never had a problem with the Costco stock, but sometimes rice can be 'old', remain on the back of the pallet for a year.., and... how are you going to know?

                  3. Well, at least seal it well so the kitchen doesn't get infested. I think there was a rather detailed thread about getting rid of THAT problem sometime, grain bugs are different from the kind that eat your clothes.

                    Anyway, don't be alarmed. Many grains come with bugs, which hatch if the grain is stored for a long time. They won't hurt you in the least - you can wash the rice and the dead bugs float to the surface of the water. It's not as gross as it sounds!

                    By sealing it well, I am suggesting decanting the rice into a jar with a screw-top lid, or something like that. Glass is nice because then you can see if you have more bugs.

                    1. I agree with Pitu. No need to be wasteful. Grains and bugs are a fact of life. Just wash or sift them out.

                      1. My Japanese roommate in graduate school used to wash the bugs out of the rice and now I do the same too. I can't throw it out after listening to her stories about her parents in World War II and how frugal they had to be and how no one in Japan can bear to throw rice away... Anyway, what I do now is freeze it to make sure everything's dead, because it's easier to deal with dead bugs, and if I miss anyway, they won't keep infesting the place. Then as I use it, I put it in some water and let the bugs rise to the top, scoop them out, and rinse.

                        Anyway, bugs are nutritious. I swear I once read that vegetarians who move from India to countries with more strict sanitation get B12 deficiencies because they are no longer eating little tiny animals. And what's mostly dangerous about bugs in your food is if they've brought something dirty on their little tiny feet. If they hatched inside the container, they haven't been anywhere dirty, right?