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<topic>
  <id>299882</id>
  <title>with a name like smuckers...</title>
  <published_at>Fri Feb 25 17:06:03 -0800 2005</published_at>
  <post_count>21</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1663793</id>
        <content>Bewildered by frozen p.b.&amp;j sandwiches.  Why?  If you are that lazy should you be allowed to eat?  If yes, should you only be allowed to eat frozen smucker's pb&amp;j? </content>
        <published_at>Fri Feb 25 17:06:03 -0800 2005</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>huh?</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1663794</id>
      <content>Are you talking about the "Uncrustables"?  Vile stuff- I was served this recently when I ordered PB&amp;J for my chowpup.  Rolled flat white bread with overly sweet peanut butter and jelly, with the crusts cut off and the edges crimped.  Fooey. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 17:46:28 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663793</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Chris VR</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663795</id>
      <content>What about the wonderful counterpart to that, the toaster grilled cheese sandwich!  Yummmm.  Cheese slices and squashed bread. 
 
How lazy exactly does one have to be?  And how deprived that you think this is good food?  This, people, is how McDonalds continues to thrive. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 18:05:11 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663794</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Cyndy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1663798</id>
      <content>lord help us.  they will find a way to get the milk in there maybe in little bubbles that burst in your mouth so you don't have to take the trouble to sip it.  adults will wax nostalgic about homemade pb&amp;j's consumed when the pace of life was slower...</content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 19:00:46 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663795</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>huh?</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1663849</id>
      <content>All I have to say is if my teen rolled her eyes at this product, then 'nuff said.
 
I won't tell you what ELSE she said about stupid people buying stupid things and how hard IS IT to make a pb &amp; j......lol</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 27 16:47:31 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663798</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>hbgrrl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1663857</id>
      <content>Maybe its a fresh bread issue. When I eventually move upstate fulltime, I dont see myself running to the store every few days for fresh bread (10 miles to the gastation store, one way), and for my PBJ it must be FRESH bread. Hopefully by then I will perfect breadbaking. As it is I am constantly throwing away half loaves of bread now. Too bad they dont make half loaves of bread</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 27 18:30:28 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663849</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ValL</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>1663937</id>
      <content>Bread freezes very well.  Cut the loaf in half and stick it in the freezer.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 28 23:46:06 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663857</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>huh?</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>1663940</id>
      <content>Yep, I do that sometimes, mostly for toasting. But there are certain things that only go with freshly opened Wonder Bread, like a PBJ</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 01 04:23:24 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663937</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ValL</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1663796</id>
      <content>Ads for that product have always looked as digusting as those Oscar Meyer Lunchables.  Now if you would like a good jolt of strawberry preserves to slather on your made from scratch PB&amp;J, there really is nothing like a jar of Smuckers.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 18:07:20 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663793</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Chino Wayne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663811</id>
      <content>I find Hero strawberry preserves to be the best, whole strawberries with very little extra added.
And Smuckers does make a strawberry jam and peanut butter sandwich too, so I guess they know people like theirs!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 26 07:35:59 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663796</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>coll</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1663797</id>
      <content>I think these were specifically developed for Martha Stewart during her incarceration. Try them again with a glass of Tang for balance. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 18:07:52 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663793</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Leper</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663831</id>
      <content>Tang! 
 
Dude, our Mom had the Tang "pitcher". It was glass with a orange plastic top. The glass was shaped with a mark of a "fill to" line for the Tang. No guessing. Just fill with water and you're ready to entertain friends. 
</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 27 01:53:07 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663797</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>70's child</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1663799</id>
      <content>I can't defend the frozen sandwich--the bread is too disgusting--but on a (somewhat) contrarian note, I'm constrained to note that the peanut-butter-and-jelly-filled cereal bars from Health Valley are actually reasonably edible.  Our incorrigibly fussy son used to like these, although since he turned 3 he has become more unpredictable even about cereal bars.  Don't underestimate the appeal of something that can be conveniently carried, lasts a long time in the diaper bag, is at least marginally nutritious, and can be reliably counted on to placate a finicky but starving toddler. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 19:14:55 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663793</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>PayOrPlay</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663801</id>
      <content>True...but then again, as my mother used to say, 'he get's hungry enough, he'll eat'.  
 
Incidently, I happen to know the threshold for a three year old on a hunger strike is about 14 hours.  Believe me, I would have rolled cat food in chocolate and fed it to him if he'd have eaten it.  Longest freaking day of my life...and he wasn't even my kid.  But my mother was right - he got hungry enough, he ate.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 19:42:40 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663799</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Cyndy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663803</id>
      <content>Yes, I'll agree on those bars- they taste pretty good, not at all artificial.  Thank goodness for yogurt shakes; they carried us through the pup's most picky times.  This week he ate meatloaf (twice!), chicken soup and real chicken nuggets- this from a kid who, for the longest time wouldn't touch a speck of meat- so I'm starting to hope there's a light at the end of this tunnel.  Don't cruelly dash my hopes by telling me it gets worse at 3 years old!  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 20:12:51 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663799</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Chris VR</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663804</id>
      <content>After careful thought I have decided all babies are Asian.  Now, please hear me out.  Find me a Chinese, Korean, Japanese, or Thai mommy, who cook their native cuisines who has trouble getting the kid to eat.  I think kids like this kind of food, the plain rice and the salty sweet pungent simple bits of this and that.  Also, I find western mommies always inquiring after preferences, giving the little tyrant choices.  I agree: if he gets hungry, he will eat.  The idea of mealtime being a struggle for a parent never would have occurred to me if I only ever ate at my home and the homes of my friends with Asian parents. So: Asian food, they like it! :)</content>
      <published_at>Fri Feb 25 20:37:27 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663799</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>huh?</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1663816</id>
      <content>These have been around a lot longer than you think.  They were developed for the National School Lunch Program and/or Basic Breakfast Program.  They make use of USDA commodity peanut butter (not the retail product)and provide a 1 oz serving of an alternative protein source.  They are disgusting.
 
There is also a school lunch grilled cheese sandwich that comes already grilled and wrapped in ovenable plastic.  These are actually not to bad.
 
And in answer to the question "why".  Have you ever had to make 400 PBJ or grilled cheese sandwiches?  I'm not going to defend the NSLP or BBP, but most schools don't have the food service staff to make 400 of anything let alone room to cook off grilled cheese sandwiches, not to mention school administrations that would prefer not to have to deal with feeding kids, and think you can get 400 kids fed in 20 minutes.  Good, bad or indifferent, these products were developed for a specific market to meet a specific need for convenience.  And the kids are the ones that suffer........... </content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 26 11:39:24 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663793</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Gayla</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663817</id>
      <content>Im not so sure they are suffering too hard. My local newspaper (Newsday) had a taste-off of these things and they didnt do too bad. When I was a kid I liked  Butoni Toaster Pizzas. I miss them. I guess kids arent as picky as we think they are (and to think I brought my younger home every day because he would not eat anything but a hot grilled cheese)</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 26 12:27:53 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663816</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ValL</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663911</id>
      <content>How did the school lunch rooms/cafeterias do it when I was growing up, in the 50's and 60's?  We had a hot lunch cafeteria, cooked - at least partially - on premises (and this in the Los Angeles school district). Same in junior high and high school. And we didn't have disposable dishes, either. It IS "do-able", if the schools can shoulder the cost.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 28 14:35:26 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663816</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>LBQT</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1663820</id>
      <content>These are the height of laziness!  What's so tough about peanut butter and jelly slapped together between 2 slices of regular sized bread??  And as for those lunchables-ever look to see how much salt is in them-criminal!!!</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 26 13:59:46 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663793</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Donna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1663884</id>
      <content>re: Lunchables, I used to make a game out if it with my ex.  See who could find the most appalling example in the store (there are a staggering number of choices), comparing net weight to grams of sodium and fat.  I think the all-time winner was a little packet of peanut butter and crackers, the kind with the separate compartment of cheese/PB to spread on the crackers, similar to the ones that I ate as a kid.  I think it had somehwere north of 25g of fat and 900+mg of sodium.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 28 10:37:45 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663820</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>tbear</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1663889</id>
      <content>I, too, look at the fat and sodium content of these "speedy prep" uh- meals.  No wonder there's an obesity epidemic amongst our young!   </content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 28 12:02:10 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>1663884</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Donna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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