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Lion Dancer Jan 14, 2005 03:34 AM

My sister-in-law is travelling in China right now and sent back this pic. Anybody seen/tried it before?

What is it exactly and how would it be cooked?

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    butterfly RE: Lion Dancer Jan 14, 2005 08:40 AM

    I can't wait to see what the reply to this is, because I have seen these (alive) in the markets here in Madrid and they are very cheap.

    I asked the fish guy what they were--I'm spacing out on the Spanish name, but have it written down somewhere--but he implied that these "bugs" are not very highly prized by Spanish people (who prefer cigalas--dublin bay prawns), but Chinese immigrants buy them up buy them up by the dozens...

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      Art RE: butterfly Jan 14, 2005 09:55 AM

      Yikes. Look like somethin outta a horror film!

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        butterfly RE: Art Jan 14, 2005 11:18 AM

        They look a lot like crayfish (or cigalas--a pink salt-water crayfish-like creature) only gray and much chubbier.

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      Cyndy RE: Lion Dancer Jan 14, 2005 11:13 AM

      According to the Mandarin woman in the next cubicle, they are called 'PiPi Shrimp' and are a kind of lobsterish thing. Other than that, I'm at a loss! Ugly bugs, aren't they ?

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        melissa RE: Lion Dancer Jan 14, 2005 02:28 PM

        could they be slipper lobsters? i'm just grasping in the dark here...they do look interesting though.

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          ericf RE: Lion Dancer Jan 14, 2005 03:35 PM

          These appear to be mantis shrimp. I've seen them before in an Oakland, CA chinese restaurant, and thought the same thing, but I was unaware that people ate them. Googling "mantis shrimp culinary" brings up many mentions, however. The first two links brought up by Googling "mantis shrimp" are interesting. Apparently only distantly related to "true" shrimp.

          Link: http://www.blueboard.com/mantis/

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            FlyFish RE: ericf Jan 14, 2005 03:53 PM

            Absolutely correct - mantis shrimp. Not a shrimp really, but in the same Class (Malacostraca, which refers to crustaceans that have a single covering over the head and thorax - like lobsters), different Order (Stomatopoda). The scientific name for the ones that live around here (New England) is Squilla empusa and they're much smaller, but still grow to a few inches in length. They live in shallow water, inhabiting deep burrows that they construct in the mud.

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              JoanN RE: FlyFish Jan 15, 2005 03:08 PM

              I'm astounded that the critters pictured here are mantis shrimp. I've seen mantis shrimp scuba diving in Papua New Guinea and Thailand and they barely resemble what is in the original photo. This (below) is what I've seen identified as mantis shrimp. Very colorful, and no more than 6 inches in length. In both PNG and Thailand, by the way, mantis were pooh-poohed--at least by the dive masters--as inedible. My brother lives in Cadiz. I'll have to ask him about it.

              Image: http://img99.exs.cx/img99/9884/mantis...

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                FlyFish RE: JoanN Jan 15, 2005 03:29 PM

                Oh, they're stomatopods (mantis shrimp) all right - I spent the first 20 years of my career doing research on marine and estuarine crustacea and I recognized them right off. The shape of the abdomen is characteristic, and they get their name from the unusual shape of the chelae (claws).

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                  Ruth_Laughlin RE: FlyFish Jan 15, 2005 08:38 PM

                  Looks like a purplish shrimp on rice.

                  Most of the ones served are about the size of ebi (shrimp) in the US.

                  Quite tasty though.

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                    JoanN RE: FlyFish Jan 16, 2005 05:46 PM

                    Apologies, FlyFish, if my awkwardly phrased surprise made it seem as though I was questioning your authority. Not in the least! It was just hard for me to believe that the long, skinny, pale critter in the tank was the same as the short, plump, beautifully colorful one I'd seen crawling around in the sand.

                    Are slipper lobsters and mantis shrimp the same thing? Years ago I used to buy frozen slipper lobsters to put in a paella, but it never occurred to me that they were anything other than small lobster tails.

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                      ericf RE: JoanN Jan 16, 2005 06:09 PM

                      There are many species of mantis shrimp, so it is unlikely to have been the same species. Both mantis shrimp and slipper lobsters belong to the class Malacostraca but they belong to different orders (mantis shrimp:stomatopoda, slipper lobster: decapoda). The slipper lobster is in the same class as lobsters, I believe.

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                        FlyFish RE: JoanN Jan 16, 2005 09:29 PM

                        My goodness, Joan - no offense taken and certainly no apology necessary. I'm sorry if my response sounded like I was offended, because I really wasn't. I don't know anything about slipper lobsters because I've never worked in an area where they occur. But ericf is correct that they're decapods, like American lobsters and true crabs (decapoda = ten legged [literally, footed] - you'll find five pairs of "walking" legs on your next lobster or crab, the first pair modified into the larger claws).

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                      sbp RE: JoanN Jan 16, 2005 07:48 AM

                      Based on a drawing in a food book, the picture looks like a slipper lobster. But I'm no authority; I've never actually seen one.

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                  butterfly RE: Lion Dancer Jan 14, 2005 05:01 PM

                  Okay, I got some more info on these creatures. Here in Spain they are called "galera." In English: mantis shrimp; in Japanese: shako.

                  They can grow up to 10 inches and are ferocious! In the market, they are all rolled up in ball like an armadillo.

                  Here they are an Andalucian dish--particularly around Cadiz. I found several recipes online... They are often put in stews or just simply cooked. Here's the most basic preparation (which works well for almost all crustaceans:

                  Bring a pot of salted water to a boil. Once it is at a rolling boil, throw in the galera (mantis shrimp). The water will stop boiling. When it starts to boil again, remove the shrimp.

                  And a slightly more complicated version that is typical of Sanlucar (near Cadiz):

                  Bring a pot of UNSALTED water to a boil. Once it is at a rolling boil, throw in the galera (mantis shrimp). The water will stop boiling. When it starts to boil again, remove the shrimp

                  Then plunge the shrimp into cold salted water for 1 to 1 1/2 minute. This solution is called a "sal muera"--the recipe says that the concentration of salt should be enough to make an egg float. The saltiness will penetrate the shellfish quickly. Make sure that the solution is cold by refrigerating it beforehand and adding ice cubes. This will stop the shellfish from cooking and will make the shells easier to remove.

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                    Lion Dancer RE: Lion Dancer Jan 15, 2005 04:12 AM

                    Very interesting link, Eric & thanks to the others for the good comments & research.

                    Butterfly's recipes do seem "standard" and I wonder what the Chinese do with 'em. Given our more elaborate presentations of crab & lobster I just can't believe a Chinese restaurant would simply serve them boiled & salted.

                    Interesting that in the link it said not to keep more than one in a tank since they're territorial and would tear one another apart, but these are all dumped together.

                    I looked up the Chinese name on the side of the tank and it comes out something like: Rich & Lofty Shrimp.

                    Now that my curiousity's piqued, anyone know where they might be served in Los Angeles?

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                      jen kalb RE: Lion Dancer Jan 15, 2005 10:22 AM

                      In Venice they are canoce, a local delicacy. Usually Ive seen them steamed and served with olive oil and lemon as part of a cold seafood platter.

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                      Pork Butt RE: Lion Dancer Jan 16, 2005 02:27 PM

                      Note the price: mantis shrimp of that size are about USD $30 each! I've had these in China a few times and smaller, single serving sized versions are available.

                      The ones I've liked best are about five inches long and are only a few dollars. A common preparation is deep fried whole without any breading so most of the legs turn out crunchy like the ama fried head part of Japanese ama-ebi. It's finished off with some fried garlic. The texture is much like lobster, scampi, or langoustine and the flavor is clean and sweet.

                      I haven't had it or seen it in the states but since other posters have mentioned finding these beauties, I'll have to keep an eye out for some even though the sticker shock will probably be severe.

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                        Food4Thoughts RE: Lion Dancer Jan 2, 2007 10:00 PM

                        Hello All,
                        My first time in this site. Please help!
                        My friend used to buy a 24x12x12 styrupfoam box of china striped prawns out of some markets in Oakland,CA for about $100.00. My friend has passed away recently. Now, I want to get a box for my wife's birthday party. Does anyone know where specifically to go get this type of sale?
                        All I know is Oakland,CA, but not knowing the specific market.
                        Hope ya'll can help me. I need to get it this Saturday.
                        Many thanks in advance.
                        Q.

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                          Nyleve RE: Food4Thoughts Jan 7, 2007 08:39 PM

                          You will get better replies to you question if you post it on the local Oakland board.

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                          jumpingmonk RE: Lion Dancer Jan 7, 2007 07:49 PM

                          I saw a pair of these things in a tank in one of the resturaunts I passed in Chinatown recently (I think it was american east fuzhau on East Broadway) But dint stop into look further as both of them appeared to be dying (they were flat on their backs streched out)

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                            Cali RE: Lion Dancer Jan 8, 2007 02:58 AM

                            But the real question that nobody has asked yet is...HOW DO THEY TASTE?!?!

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