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  <id>296692</id>
  <title>The Apocalypse Approaches</title>
  <published_at>Mon Apr 05 15:17:12 -0700 2004</published_at>
  <post_count>23</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1635064</id>
        <content>Los Angeles Times item:
&#8220;Nabisco 100 calorie packs&#8221; will each have 100 calories, 3 grams or fewer of fat, no trans fat and no cholesterol. The Oreos, Chips Ahoy and Cheese Nips will be reformulated to meet these nutritional guidelines; for example, the Oreos will have no cr&#232;me filling.
 
What&#8217;s next: Mounds without coconut? Sushi without rice? Foie without gras?
</content>
        <published_at>Mon Apr 05 15:17:12 -0700 2004</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Mr Grub</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1635071</id>
      <content>They actually think Oreos without filling will sell?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 15:44:33 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635064</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635076</id>
      <content>Ha Ha Ha!!!  That's about as funny as a giant cheeseburger with lettuce instead of a bun to "lower the carbs".  Who'd be stupid enough to sell.........oh wait....never mind.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 16:11:18 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635071</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>D</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635093</id>
      <content>I buy the Newman's Own 'Tops &amp; bottoms' occasionally.  They're a good dark crisp cookie, and since I tend to make an average bag of cookies 2-3 servings, I do my best to resist the 'creme' filled.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 19:33:36 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635071</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>babette feasts</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635124</id>
      <content>Why call it an Oreo?
 
Just a pet peeve of mine, like "Caeser's Salad" without anchovies.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 11:50:45 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635071</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>meta</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1635301</id>
      <content>...any more than it had grilled chicken on top.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 08 05:19:05 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635124</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>peg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1635343</id>
      <content>But the original caesar DID have worchestershire sauce, which contains anchovies, so the addition of fresh anchovies instead is quite close to the original.

Link: http://www.foodreference.com/html/artcaesarsalad.html</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 08 13:50:58 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635301</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>DanaB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1635379</id>
      <content>The original did have anchovies mashed into the dressing; just not laid on the top, whole.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 08 19:25:49 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635301</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>2chez mike</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1635402</id>
      <content>Well, it appears I stand corrected!  Thanks for the information.   I just can't imagine a Caesar salad without anchovies, either in the dressing or on the salad.  
 
BTW, the grilled chicken thing bugs me too!  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 09 02:49:06 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635301</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>meta</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1635086</id>
      <content>And what was the date on this news item?
 
April first, perhaps?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 18:02:31 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635064</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ruth arcone</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635087</id>
      <content>I dnon't know about the Oreo's without the creme filling, but the rest of it is true. Trust me.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 18:06:22 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635086</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>rjka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635088</id>
      <content>Nope. February 18th

Link: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/index.jsp%3Fepi-content%3DGENERIC&amp;newsId%3D20040218005858&amp;newsLang%3Den&amp;beanID%3D202776713&amp;viewID%3Dnews_view</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 18:11:19 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635086</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Pssst</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635090</id>
      <content>Would the Grubman kid about something as sacrosanct as Oreos?
 
Kraft (Nabisco) says that the reformulated Oreos will be "thin-crisp versions" of the original. Like Wonder Bread is a "thin-crisp version" of a Reuben sandwich.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 18:59:36 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635086</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Mr Grub</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1635242</id>
      <content>Or in other words, Nabisco Chocolate Wafers, which already exist.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 07 13:10:39 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635090</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Chorus Girl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1635102</id>
      <content>Was Nabisco or some shady corporate parent behind the demise of Sunshine Hydrox cookies?  Now that was a real cookie.  What's next to go, Mom and apple pie?</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 05 22:44:01 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635064</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Chino Wayne</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635115</id>
      <content>Sushine was bought by Keebler, which is now owned by Kellogg's. I'd guess they found they couldn't compete profitably against Oreos and discontinued the product.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 10:41:53 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635102</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>rjka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635213</id>
      <content>Oh God how I miss my Hydrox Cookies!!!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 22:43:21 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635102</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>CIAChef</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1635300</id>
      <content>The cookie was so far superior to Oreo that it makes me weep to even think about it.  The filling was modest, rather than a big greasy layer of god-knows-what, and complemented the cookie beautifully.   Hydrox made a cheesecake crust so superior to lardy Oreos...no words.  
 
*sigh*  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 08 05:15:17 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635213</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>peg</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1635365</id>
      <content>You are so right, peg. I could never understand why Oreo's were so popular when it was so obvious to our family that Hydrox were a far and away superior cookie.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 08 17:10:21 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635300</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jeremy Newel</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1635149</id>
      <content>I was going to say the only thing Oreos without fillings are good for are making pie crust -- but actually, crushing the cookies with the fillings still in makes a superior chocolate crust (the fat from the filling works better than butter).</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 13:21:07 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635064</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>sbp</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1635171</id>
      <content>I guess I don't get your point.  Are they going to stop making regular Oreos and the other snack items?  If so, that's terrible.  But if not, I don't see the problem.  I had gastric bypass surgery and cannot tolerate large amounts of fat and sugar - with some people who have had the surgery even ONE regular cooky is enough to make them sick.  If I or someone else could enjoy one cooky, it would be great, I would think.  Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see what having an alternative for people who can't eat regular food takes away from those who can.
Kim</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 14:46:10 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635064</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Kim Shook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1635183</id>
      <content>Kraft apparently will offer the modified Oreos as a supplement to their Oreo line of cookies. This is not a bad thing. My point is that these new things are no more Oreos than sashimi is sushi. I mean, if you can't even unscrew them, how can they be Oreos? 
 
They should call them something else, like &#8220;Nabisco Sugarless, Almost-Tasteless Thin-Crisp Disc Abominations&#8221; so folks who are sugary-creamy-filling intolerant will know they can eat &#8216;em.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 16:18:45 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635171</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Mr Grub</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1635201</id>
      <content>I actually can't stand the cream filling and scrape it off with a knife, so these new Oreos are an improvement for me.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 19:28:42 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>emily</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1635180</id>
      <content>Sushi without rice is a good idea... its called sashimi!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 06 15:53:29 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1635064</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>sven</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
