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MeffaBabe Jun 2, 2003 04:26 PM

Childhood Favorites

Some of my fondest memories as a child revolve around food and I was wondering what the hounds favorite childhood foods were-
JUNK FOODS
I remember sitting in front of the TV (small screen very large wooden box- b&w only with 3 stations!) with my glass of either Ovaltine or Malted Milk while munching on my hostess snowballs. I remember the penny candy- mint juleps, ufos, the real lipsticks not the stuff out now, mary janes, squirrels and bazooka bubble gum. Scooter Pies, rice crispy treats that MOM made fresh using REAL BUTTER!
Roast Beef or Lamb dinners on Sundays with all the fixings... Alaskan King Crabmeat sandwiches (the crabmeat was cheaper to buy in the can than tuna fish!) Stuff cabbages with cream sauce, keilbasa, REAL BUTTER used on everything! Homemade sweet bread, cabbage soup, potato pancakes, bacon sandwiches, milk with the cream on top...
I am sure I will think of 100 more treats and when I do I will add to the list for the rest of you hounds to remember along with me...

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    LawrieBrinkerhoff Jul 26, 2012 12:55 PM

    What's a childhood without all those junk food? LOL. Potato chips were a staple in our pantry back then, and fish tacos made my weekend extra special! Oh, this is making me hungry. :D

    If ever you're in Lafayette, Louisiana, be sure to check out this awesome restaurant:
    http://jolieslouisianabistro.com/inde...

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      berkleybabe Jan 22, 2012 05:08 PM

      Wow, this is a little bit of a vintage post...for me, coming home from church and watching "Shirley Temple Theatre" with my sister eating a sleeve of Ritz crackers with peanut butter and strawberry jam. Our family's "cracker mush" which we'd sometimes have Sunday evenings after a big dinner -- broken graham crackers with milk poured over. Taste even better when we watched the begnning of the Disney Sunday show. Sloppy Joes w tomato soup and Lipton onion soup...total sodium bomb but a fixture in sleep-overs as was California dip (see Lipton onion soup.) The interesting thing about the thread is its' more about the emotion and love of the event than the food.. and that's why the food tastes so great.

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        Scooter Pie Jun 8, 2003 10:30 PM

        Hey, you're the first one I've seen on Chowhound to make mention of Scooter Pies! Naturally, I remember those, too -- hence the screen name. People know what Moon Pies are...but you don't see Scooter Pies anymore. Where they just a Northeast thing? Moon Pies somehow seem southern or Midwestern...

        Anyway, couldn't believe my eyes when I read your post!

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          creamplease48 Jan 22, 2012 03:30 PM

          I liked ( and still do) those chalky little candies called Sweet-Tarts. When you bit into them they had a mildly tart tang.

          Sometimes they were sold on a string to replicate a necklace.

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          Chorus Girl Jun 4, 2003 02:07 PM

          One thing that I loved but would never ever make for myself today is salami & eggs. Take Hebrew National Salami in the fat roll (not the big thin slices), cut up, and add to scrambled eggs. Cook until salami gets nice & crispy. I can't imagine how much saturated fat is in there!

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            science chick Jun 5, 2003 11:35 AM

            Why deny yourself? Not something you would want to have every day or week, for that matter. but if it gave you that much pleasure you should have it a couple times a year!

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              Chorus Girl Jun 5, 2003 11:59 AM

              Well, I don't eat that type of salami anymore--too much fat!

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                science chick Jun 5, 2003 02:18 PM

                This is exactly what I am talking about. What does "too much fat" mean? Should you eat an entire salami? No, of course not! Can you have a serving with 2 eggs and a few ounces of salami in it? Why not?

                Several years back, I was having a terrible time with my weight. I eat tons of fresh fruits and veggies and cook "lowfat" at home, so "less fat" was clearly not working. I learned to eat smaller portions and to balance things out (I was on Weight watchers, but you get the idea). I lost and have kept off 35 lbs ....the weight loss acheived eating *everything* I like, just in a more thoughtful, less abundant manner. Yes, fried clams, pizza, chinese food, pasta! So I say, nothing should be "verboten" if it really makes you happy. Just not overdoing it.

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            jill Jun 4, 2003 02:34 AM

            the fresh donuts from the machine in the basement Gateley's People's Store on Michigan Ave. in Chicago....ahhh.

            Carmel/cheese corn mix from Karmel Korn in Chicago.

            toasted coconut ice cream bar from the Good Humor man.

            ohhh my. jill

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              Liloo Jun 4, 2003 12:32 AM

              When I was a kid, our house was really popular with all the neighborhood kids, as my parents made these amazing breakfasts. We'd have "Swedish Pancakes" - a super thin pancake batter, cooked on a griddle - big as your plate and just a little thicker than paper. There would be lots of toppings out on the table - butter, peanut butter, white sugar, brown sugar, honey, jams, syrup, shredded coconut, chocolate chips, bananas, raisins... really anything you could imagine. You'd put what you wanted on the pancake, then use your fork on one side and roll it up into a long tube, and cover it with more syrup and eat it! Or, other weekends we'd have "German Pancakes" - fluffy batter poured into pie pans and baked in the oven... they would puff up over the edge and get really tall and poofy. My mom always put out canned pie filling and powdered sugar but I liked apple sauce, lemon juice and powdered sugar, or just the lemon and powdered sugar. Incredible that any of us have teeth after all that sugar! I mean, this was an every Saturday thing! At least, that's how I remember it. And Sunday's we'd make those Pillsbury carmel rolls and always fight over the middle one.

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                badseed Jun 3, 2003 08:49 PM

                there are many websites that sell this candy:

                http://www.hometownfavorites.com/
                http://www.groovycandies.com/
                http://www.candydirect.com/
                http://www.peppermintpalace.com/
                http://www.discountcandy.com/
                http://www.oldtimecandy.com/
                http://www.sweetnostalgia.com/
                http://www.nostalgiccandy.com/
                http://www.pennycandies.com/

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                  JK Grence (the Cosmic Jester) Jun 3, 2003 08:02 PM

                  There's one that's a specialty in my family where you cut up a couple slices of toast into bite-size pieces, and then scoop the contents of some soft-boiled eggs over the toast. The whole thing is tossed with generous amounts of salt and pepper. To this day it's one of my favorite breakfast treats.

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                    Jennie Sheeks Jun 3, 2003 07:27 PM

                    Mmmm, Mom was and is a wonderful cook. Not only did I love to eat her food, I loved to play in the kitchen and ask her questions about upcoming meals and would beg to accompany her to the grocery store. When I stumped her with a food related question she'd say "Well, let's see what Mrs. Rombauer has to say about this." while handing me her worn copy of Joy of Cooking so I could look up the answer.

                    While other Mom's made mac & cheese from a box, my Mom made it from scratch. Her Tagliarini, decadent concoction of spaghetti, bacon, cream & eggs was often my requested birthday dish, as were the ribs with the sweet & stick bbq sauce. I have fond memories of sweet bacon-laced slow baked beans, enchiladas with jack cheese, green chiles & (gasp) white sauce, cornbread with butter and her homemade blackberry jam, and the chicken she'd fry outside with the electric fryer to keep the grease from splattering the already ugly kitchen walls. At Halloween she made homemade caramel corn for the neighbor kids. Chicken & dumplings (with slicks or doughballs depending on her energy), biscuits, and the simply named hamburger noodle casserole are among the favorite childhood foods I make for myself today (the latter was part of my lunch today). Her homemade vanilla ice cream is legendary.

                    While I wouldn't want one today, in grade school I was fond of sandwiches of devilled ham or liver sausage mixed with Best Foods mayo & dijon mustard.

                    We didn't eat much junk food, but for a brief early period in my life I was allowed to have Tang, later it was Cheetos. Sometimes Mom would make us a treat from her childhood she called Candy Bar Toast, involving buttered toast, peanut butter and brown sugar. At friend's homes I would down pixie sticks and strawberry Quik flavored milk.

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                      Stephanie Jun 3, 2003 05:12 PM

                      My favorite childhood treat was, get this...fried chocolate long johns. The doughnut, you know. Now, mind you, we had this for breakfast a lot! Almost every weekend. The kids would hop in the car with dad to go get the doughnuts, always from Dunkin' Doughnuts. We'd buy a dozen chocolate long johns. Then, we'd get home and mom would melt some butter in a saute pan and fry the doughnuts. As soon as they became golden brown and crispy, she'd flip them briefly and let the chocolate icing brown up for just about thirty seconds.
                      I'm telling you, it was heaven. I've never heard of anyone else doing this and I can't imagine it's done a lot these days. However, everyone once in a while I can't help myself and have to have a fix...

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                        berkleybabe Jun 3, 2003 04:57 PM

                        On Sunday nights we'd break up a bunch of graham crackers, put it in a bowl, pour milk and a little sugar on it--"cracker mush"--while we watched Disney--heaven! Fried Taylor ham when visiting grandma and relatives in NYC, chocolate Eclairs from Sanders bakery in Detroit area, sloppy joes, California onion dip, Payday candybars (which were huge!), Bonomo's Turkish taffy, though it would pull out your fillings, Ritz crackers with peanut butter and strawberry jelly eaten while watching "Shirley Temple Theatre". My mom's egg custard with thawed frozen strawberries..

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                          Big Momma Jun 3, 2003 04:10 PM

                          You touched a nerve with me. Are you talking about those pink lipsticks wrapped in gold foil from 30+ years back? I have the fondest memories of those, have you seen them? I would love to give some to my kids and eat a few myself. I'm your neighbor, I live in Malden. :)

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                            MeffaBabe Jun 4, 2003 10:08 AM

                            I do mean those wonderful waxy lipsticks wrapped in plastic with the gold foil... the ones found now are not the same taste or texture. There is a great web-site hometownfavorites that sells all the penny candy from long ago! You may want to try them. I don't know any local stores that sell penny candy. We recently moved to Malden but my heart still belongs to "Meffa!"

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                              Big Momma Jun 4, 2003 12:52 PM

                              I love the hometownfavorites site! I've never seen that candy there. I would so love to get my hands on some. I ordered Love Hearts last year from their manufacturer, in London. LOL

                              Meffa at heart huh? Do you have big hair? :)

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                                MeffaBabe Jun 4, 2003 03:06 PM

                                I finally got rid of my BIG HAIR kept it only until I realized we would not be moving to REVERE!

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                                  Big Momma Jun 4, 2003 03:25 PM

                                  LOL! I had big hair too, for a long time. My girlfriend lives in Revere and we always give her a hard time.

                                  Have you been to Papa's Bar & Grille on Middlesex/Highland Ave.? Very good, basic food, nice atmosphere, decent prices. Fried clams to die for! Also, go to Dom's Sausage on Commercial Street for out of this world steak tips.

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                                    MeffaBabe Jun 5, 2003 10:39 AM

                                    I frequent both along with Bambino's on Highland Ave. My husband loves the chicken parm sub from DiPietros!

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                                      Big Momma Jun 5, 2003 02:22 PM

                                      Have you been to Artichokes yet? I haven't but will be going soon. Another must-do is Tivoli's on Exchange Place, if you haven't been there yet. It's wonderful and very reasonable.

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                            Allison Jun 3, 2003 03:38 PM

                            Wagon wheels, chocolate and strawberry milk (using the powder, was usually lumpy!)Easy bake oven spice cake; Confetti angel food; every birthday was angel food cake, strawberries and whipped cream. Poptarts and canned spaghetti...yikes! The best was Mom's homemade chicken with dumplings and cabbage rolls. Tomato aspic, scalloped potatoes and devilled eggs...I sure do miss her cooking - it was awesome. We hardly ever used butter though - always margarine - yuck!

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                              Allison Jun 3, 2003 03:38 PM

                              Wagon wheels, chocolate and strawberry milk (using the powder, was usually lumpy!)Easy bake oven spice cake; Confetti angel food; every birthday was angel food cake, strawberries and whipped cream. Poptarts and canned spaghetti...yikes! The best was Mom's homemade chicken with dumplings and cabbage rolls. Tomato aspic, scalloped potatoes and devilled eggs...I sure do miss her cooking - it was awesome. We hardly ever used butter though - always margarine - yuck!

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                                lintsao Jun 3, 2003 03:04 PM

                                My dad rarely cooked, except for once in a while on a Saturday afternoon heÂ’d say LetÂ’s make fudge. The first thing to check was whether there was some vanilla icecream in the freezer -- which there usually wasnÂ’t so we started with a trip to the store. The recipe was in a 1930Â’s edition of Fannie Farmer and making the fudge always started with a re-telling of how they had to save up their sugar rations to make it during WWII when my dad was a kid. The chocolate and sugar and milk were cooked until we had ascertained that it had reached the soft ball stage by dropping bits in a glass of cold water -- I may get a candy thermometer one day but I still get along fine with this method. And then there was the stirring. And stirring, and stirring....until it started to congeal. I think working over a pot of hot fudge enveloped in the smell of melted chocolate was my first experience of intoxication...adding the butter at the end made it even better as the smell of melting butter mingled with the chocolate. Just before pouring it into a pan to set we dished out some vanilla icecream and had it with some of the hot fudge on top.

                                So now when tooling around Boothbay Harbor or some other town that has a fudge store on every corner I canÂ’t resist buying some. And the fact is, fudge is okay but not that great. ItÂ’s awfully sweet, kind of sticky, a little grainy...definitely a humble form of chocolate candy. But I can still remember how great it tasted 35 years ago. The memory of eating it then isnÂ’t the same as eating it now, but the memory is just fine.

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                                  babyfork Jun 3, 2003 01:22 PM

                                  My favorite childhood food memories often involved Delicious Orchards in Holmdel, NJ. It's a big farm style market that people drive all the way from Long Island to go to. I was lucky enough to live close by. They had wonderful freshly baked breads and cookies. I loved their pumpernickel and their sugar cookies. It was also my first intro to a real cheese selection. I would love to come home and spread out my little meal: a thick slice of pumpernickel with butter, dried pears, summer sausage, and alpenjoy cheese (a kind of weird cheese with bits of smoked meat in it). We always got our Thanksgiving pies there. Of course, in the summer they had amazing Jersey tomatoes. I've never had a better tomato than a Jersey beefsteak tomato, even with all these fancy heirloom ones I've tried out here in San Francisco. Jersey corn was awesome too.

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                                    Chorus Girl Jun 3, 2003 03:06 PM

                                    Delicious Orchards is a wonderful place and is still going strong. When I was a kid I loved their cider donuts and their fresh-pressed cider. We'd have their pies on Thanksgiving, but Mom got the frozen ones so she wouldn't have to wait on those huge lines. The cheese counter was great because there'd always be plenty of samples! As for the produce, they have things I'd never seen before, like yellow watermelon and purple peppers.

                                    I remember what it was like before the expansion, when they didn't have the big gourmet foods section. Just a tiny little produce market with a small bakery.

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                                      babyfork Jun 3, 2003 07:47 PM

                                      Oh yeah! I knew I'd forgotten something - the cider doughnuts and apple cider are great. I used to like to dunk my doughnut in my cider. I was born in 1972 so I just remember the big place. I'm going home in a few weeks and I'll definitely stop by as a treat to myself.

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                                    raj1 Jun 3, 2003 12:48 PM

                                    I'm Mexican-American and grew up in South Texas. I loved going to the Mexican bakery with my mom when I was a kid and coming home with one of those wax paper bags filled with molletes, pan de polvo, and other stuff I never knew the name of. There was this one place near my grandmother's house that looked like a plain old house. It was painted pink. My brother and I called it the Pink Bakery. They made tortillas there as well. There was one bakery case that was full of pan de polvo (those crumbly shortbread that are often called wedding cookies, I guess)...and I mean the case was FULL. The lady behind the counter used a scoop to fill our bag. Tortillas were always coming off a conveyor belt and loaded into bags by girls behind the counter. There were rows and rows of sticky doughnuts with icings in garish colors. YUM. I also loved the pink sheet cake and the chocolate sheet cake and the ginger cookies with the slash of red icing on top. There were also those big bulbous loaves of French bread that looked like butts. My mother always got these pastries that were nothing more than dough braided into a wreath that she would dunk in coffee. Haven't seen them since my childhood.

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                                      sudiepav Jun 3, 2003 10:10 AM

                                      I remember going to Lake Michigan in the summer and getting all sorts of penny candy at the general store...wax lips, sugary syrup in small wax bottles, shaped like pop bottles, dots on paper, Turkish taffy. My dad favored Blackjack gum (yuck). I also remember being very small and my mom getting the oleo, which was in a plastic bag. It was white and contained a colored capsule. You kneaded the oleo thru the bag and mixed the yellow color in the capsule with it until it was butter colored. It was fun, but we all liked real butter better. I also remember Braak's Bakery cookies. The bakery was in Spring Lake,out of business now, but the cookies, sugar topped with a molasses/brown sugar flavor, were one of the childhood treats we had that tasted just as great after I grew up.

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                                        Sandy Jun 3, 2003 07:05 AM

                                        Okay, how about Black Cow, a sticky chocolate concoction on a stick, that left your tongue black as asphalt and chocolate all over your face.

                                        Chewing gum during WWII that came with cards showing various scenes, including some from the Russo-Finnish war. The gum was very grainy and didn't hold together when chewed, due to the fact that the chicle necessary for the gumminess came from (I think) Central or South America, and wasn't a priority item to be shipped to this country.

                                        Johnny Marzetti in the school cafeteria.

                                        An item unique to Charleston, SC - Horse Cake or Horse Gunjuh, a vaguely horse-shaped somewhat hard cookie about 4 or 5 inches long and about 3/4" thick, made of a very short and sweet white dough, sprinkled with powdered sugar. They were made only by a German baker named B. Marle, who kept a bakery on, I think, Queen Street. The Horse Cake sold for a nickle.

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                                          T.Davis Jun 3, 2003 01:07 AM

                                          My aunt used to make these huge pancakes that filled up the whole plate. They had perfect dark rings around them. I never did figure out how she fliped them. Even today I make small pancakes so I don't have batter spread all over the stove and walls. She used to make a simple little syrup out of brown sugar that was perfect for the pancakes.

                                          One of my great memories was the first time I was allowed to use THE ICE PICK to knock off a piece of ice from this large block to eat(does ice qualify as food). I think I had about ten seconds of attempts before I heard this voice thunder.. thats enough... you are going to stab yourself. Well I did wind up with a nice piece of ice on a hot day. We currently have in one of the drawers in the kitchen my very own ice pick. You can't believe how useful this thing is for odd ball tasks around the house. Ranks right up there with the screwdriver.

                                          Sometimes with wonderful large biscuits we would have homemade butter and either dark or white thick syrup. My guess is, it was Karo. Whenever I make biscuits these days, I shove at least one off to the side to hold for butter and white syrup later on.

                                          More of my memories are of those yukey foods I had to eat. Cream of wheat(yuk), oatmeal(double yuk), certain green vegetables (gasp), peanut butter(although now I am addicted to homemade) and other foods too terible to mention.

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                                            Suzanne Jun 3, 2003 02:47 PM

                                            Could it have been King Syrup? Good stuff!

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                                              T.Davis Jun 3, 2003 04:18 PM

                                              I have never heard of that brand. Is it still sold anywhere. I always felt there was a slight difference between what I remembered and the karo brand. Yes it was very good. It sure beat oatmeal.

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                                                Chorus Girl Jun 4, 2003 02:00 PM

                                                I think it's from Kentucky. It's probably sold around there, and I know the King Arthur Flour Company carries it.

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                                            GG Mora Jun 2, 2003 10:20 PM

                                            Something I could only get at my best friend's house (my Yankee snob Mom wouldn't hear of it)...Fried baloney sandwiches on ROUND white bread with Miracle Whip.

                                            Are Scooter Pies the big marshmallow sandwich cookie dunked in chocolate? Loved em.

                                            Sugar Babies. Bonomo Turkish Taffy. Pixie Stix. What was the almond nougat candy bar dipped in white chocolate??

                                            Fish sticks and tartar sauce with ketchup.

                                            My Dad's homemade corned beef hash. Every Saturday night. Burned to a crisp on the bottom (guess that kept the Griswold seasoned properly).

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                                              ocdreamr Jun 2, 2003 11:10 PM

                                              can find sugar babies but not daddies, saw pixie stix the other day. I think the candy bar was the zero bar

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                                                Sandy Jun 3, 2003 06:49 AM

                                                Never heard of a Scooter Pie (although that doesn't mean that there wasn't such), but in the South the big marshmallow sandwich dunked in a waxy chocolate was (and is) a Moon Pie. They seem to have shrunk in size lately, however.

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                                                  flavrmeistr Jun 4, 2003 03:56 PM

                                                  It must have been a Zero bar. They were great frozen. Also the Turkish Taffy that you had to slap on the sidewalk to break up. It only softened in your mouth. How about Now'n Laters, Lemonheads and Boston Baked Beans? I haven't seen a Chunky in a long time. I think chocolate cigarettes have probably fallen out of fashion. Do you remember Chef Boyardee Pizza that came in a box and you had to mix the crust yourself? It wasn't really that good, now that I think about it.

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                                                  Deenso Jun 2, 2003 08:39 PM

                                                  I grew up in McKeesport, PA, but I've lived in NY for 40 years. I still miss some of those local taste treats, though - the memory of Isaly's chipped ham and the fabulous, slightly sweet dinner rolls from Feig's bakery in White Oak still makes my mouth water.

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                                                    bookistan Jun 2, 2003 08:23 PM

                                                    Two that come to mind (not eaten together):
                                                    1. Peanut butter and banana sandwich on white brad (which I still occasionally eat). I learned about this recipe while watching Romper Room.

                                                    2. Donuts from the Helms Man (anyone else remember this???)

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                                                      GG Mora Jun 2, 2003 10:06 PM

                                                      I went to elementary school in North Carolina, where a regular sandwich in the cafeteria line-up was peanut butter and honey on white bread (the PB and H premixed). Yum-ah.

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                                                        Linda W. Jun 3, 2003 10:59 AM

                                                        ROMPER ROOM! Oh, wow, talk about being dumped into the Way-Back Machine! Being a good do-bees or bad do-bees, and the Magic Mirror sing-song at the end of each show...how very different from today's shows for pre-schoolers!

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                                                        bloviatrix Jun 2, 2003 07:08 PM

                                                        Growing up I thought my mom was the best cook in the world. She was the only mom of all my friends who made everything from scratch and everyone was jealous of my home-made baked goods.

                                                        My fondest memories are:

                                                        Spanish omlettes on thursday nights. For some reason this was only night of the week my mother would make this. She would make a one huge omlette and her sauce would have chopped mushrooms, onions, pepper, tomato and green peas. And we would have really good bread with it to mop up the sauce.

                                                        Stuffed Cabbage. You could tell fall was well under way when my mom made her stuffed cabbage. Her's is a ground beef filling. And the sweet and sour sauce was so good. I would frequently lick my plate (and ask for seconds)

                                                        Chewy Squares. These are like blondies but with raisins in addition to the chocolate chips and walnuts. I think this is what started my lifelong love of raisins and chocolate. This was the most popular of my mom's baked goods. Friends would make special requests for them. I spent a year abroad and my mom bought me a box filled with them when she came to visit.

                                                        I have my mom's recipes for stuffed cabbage and chewy squares. Whenever I make them they take me back to my childhood. And you'll see a goofy smile on my face as I eat.

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                                                          AGM/Cape Cod Jun 4, 2003 09:03 AM

                                                          My mother used to make a stuffed cabbage with a ground meat filling and a sweet and sour sauce. She can't remember the recipe. Could you either post or email me yours? TIA.

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                                                            Pat Goldberg Jun 4, 2003 05:46 PM

                                                            Make a typical stuffing: beef, onions, cooked rice, garlic if you like it. Throw some cabbage leaves in salted boiling water to soften, then roll up cabbages, following any cookbook. The critical thing here is the sauce

                                                            The sauce should, in my opinion be made with a good can of italian tomatoes, the rest of the cabbage chopped, and a good sized chopped onion. Garlic and chopped parsley never hurt either. Add sugar and sour salt to taste. I nver measure this, but use more sugar than sour salt, because of the relative intensities. Go a bit easy, because you should correct when you are finished, anyway.

                                                            Put a bit of the raw sauce in the pan you are going to cook the stuffed cabbage in, then layer in the cabbages, and pour the rest of the sauce over it. Get it hot on top of the stove and then pop it in a moderate preheated oven. For how long? Long enough. More than an hour.

                                                            After about an hour, test the sauce and adjust with sugar and sour salt to your taste.

                                                            These freeze well, so make a lot.

                                                            BTW, this is an excellent recipe for a Cuisinart (see more recent thread above) Make the meat mixture first and then dump it into a bowl. Then make the sauce, not bothering to clean the Cuisinart. The bit of meat that makes it into the sauce this way will only make it better.

                                                            Pat G.

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                                                          christina z Jun 2, 2003 07:08 PM

                                                          This will sound horrible to modern day chowhounds but when I was little my mom used to whip up a cup of suger mixed with one whole (raw - yes raw) egg. It was a delicious custard-like concoction that I can taste again every time I think about it.

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                                                            Marco Jun 3, 2003 03:34 AM

                                                            Yes Christina, I had something similar when I was a kid only we added a cup of milk and a dash of vanilla extract...it was a good drink!

                                                            My childhood favorites were sandwiches. Lunchtime Saturday was always sandwich time. It was usually sloppy joes (a pound of ground beef and a can of tomato soup)and how I loved 'em...that is if I wasn't full of Sugar Daddy suckers and Bonomo Vanilla Turkish Taffy (you'd always smack it on a wall and break it into little pieces!).

                                                            My parents once bought half a beef, had it processed and rented a frozen locker. The hamburger patties were square (in the days long before Wendy's). My mom would plug in the Montgomery Wards electric skillet, heavily salt the bottom of it and fry the quarter pound patties, never once draining the grease. When they were done, she's cut a big thick slice of Velveeta from a 3 pound brick and melt it them, and heat the tops of the buns. On the side we had pickles, sliced onion, lettuce and the usual condiments. Those burgers were greasy and delicious...some of the best burgers I ever ate!

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                                                            Linda W. Jun 2, 2003 04:51 PM

                                                            Along with the penny candy we always bought when visiting our grandmother in a small town in central PA (which included chocolate babies, wax lips, candy buttons on long strips of paper, and candy cigarettes), there was a cookie that I can no longer remember who made them. They were a molasses cookie with scalloped edges, white icing on top and thin black stripes of icing on top of the white icing. Loved those things. Could only seem to find them in northern NJ, where we lived at the time.

                                                            We were allowed to choose our birthday dinners and cakes, and if it could be bought, I always said leg of lamb and a spice cake with cream frosting. My birthday and Easter was the only time we ever had lamb.

                                                            I'm sure I'll say "oh yeah!" when I see what others remember.

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                                                              RibDog Jun 2, 2003 06:55 PM

                                                              I remember those cookies also. But I also remember a little french bakery in Kenilworth that made the black and white cookies but they used a soft ginger cookie under the frosting instead of the plain vanilla cookies they use these days. They were fantastic!

                                                              John

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                                                                Linda W. Jun 3, 2003 10:52 AM

                                                                Do you have ANY idea what the name of the molasses cookies were? I Emailed Nabisco awhile back on a hunch and got back a response saying they didn't make them.

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                                                                  Donna Mar 4, 2006 06:12 PM

                                                                  I loved those cookies and I called them Zebra cookies because they had white icing and black stripes. Nabisco did make them and I bought boxes of them in the early 1970's. I lived in Texas and they sold them there. Suddenly, they disappeared and the manager of the store said the Nabisco company said they cost too much to produce. I belive they were called either Fruit cookies or Molasses Fruit Cookie. I would give anything to have a recipe to make some like it. Perhaps Nabisco will bring them back someday.

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                                                                    coolnrainy Oct 21, 2011 02:24 AM

                                                                    Those cookies were the best. We lived in the suburbs of NYC and there, If I remember, they were seasonal, maybe winter time? Have not been able to find any info on the internet.

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                                                              Pat Hammond Jun 2, 2003 04:32 PM

                                                              I wonder if there is anyone out there as old as I am who remembers Yank bubble gum, during World War II? You couldn' t get any other brand where I lived. When you popped a bubble in your mouth it left a very peculiar taste, but I really liked it.

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                                                                N Tocus Jun 2, 2003 09:03 PM

                                                                Things I remember that seem to have disappeared: Delaware Punch (a bottled grape drink); lemon Cokes; orange-pineapple ice cream (why have they stopped making this?); ChoChos (frozen chocolate malted milk on a stick). Prices I remember that have disappeared: a one-scoop ice cream cone cost five cents, a double-dip cone cost ten cents. The first store they let me go to alone, this was around 1939, was a bakery that sold coffee cakes about 12 x 12 with a thick layer of fruit topping, pineapple or cherry or whatever; price of this cake was ten cents. Some things have semi-disappeared ie you never see them but can get them through specialty catalogs. Like Sen-Sen, Walnettos, and Teaberry Chewing Gum.

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                                                                  Gary Soup Jun 3, 2003 12:31 AM

                                                                  I'm a youngster compared to you (by at least 7 or 8 years), but where I grew up I could get two scoops for 7 cents (on a side-by-side cone). Seems like we had only vanilla, chocolate, strawberry and Rocky Road to chhose from, though. Don't recall when it came out, but Lemmy soda ("Lemme have a Lemmy!) was radical, and my favorite penny candy was banana Kits.

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                                                                    babyfork Jun 3, 2003 01:01 PM

                                                                    You can still get Delaware Punch. I saw it at the Bluebird Cafe in Hopland, CA this weekend. You can also get it at Yum in San Francisco. Also, there is an internet site that sells all sorts of old-timey and regional sodas. I forget the name though...

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                                                                      MeffaBabe Jun 4, 2003 10:23 AM

                                                                      If you check out the posting above from badseed it lists all the websites where many of the items discussed under this topic can be bought and shipped to your doorsteps! It wasn't that easy when I was a kid, we had to actually LEAVE our house to buy stuff! Technology does have it's advantages...

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                                                                      Zippeedee Jun 3, 2003 01:18 PM

                                                                      You can still get orange-pineapple ice cream at lots of places in the Boston area. I have to have it with a scoop of frozen pudding (sort of a rum raisin but with more fruit for you non-New Englanders).

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