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  <id>291987</id>
  <title>Korean Dogmeat?</title>
  <published_at>Sun Feb 23 13:58:09 -0800 2003</published_at>
  <post_count>18</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
  </board>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1591891</id>
        <content>Has anyone ever been to Seoul and eaten dog? What's it taste like? How do they serve it?</content>
        <published_at>Sun Feb 23 13:58:09 -0800 2003</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Willy Wilson</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1591894</id>
      <content>They serve is sliced thin and seared with onions and ginger.  Tastes like shit.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 23 14:44:22 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>TheFoodDude</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1591902</id>
      <content>Tastes like shit. I'm sure that's figurative. Have a more literal description? Look, I will never eat dog so long as I live. The idea revolts me. But I'm kind of curious.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 23 15:24:32 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591894</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Willy Wilson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1591927</id>
      <content>Curiosity killed the cat...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 23 23:04:34 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Lemonbalm</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1591914</id>
      <content>Here's a link to an old discussion of the topic on the International Board.

Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/260157#1374977</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 23 19:31:04 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Rachel M.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1591926</id>
      <content>And don't forget Switzerland!  The Swiss have such a large appetite for dog meat that they consume the largest amount of dog meat per capita. They also export their national dog, the Saint Bernard to China for the meat trade. Russia is another country that exports dogs to China for the meat trade.
And if you think that's gross.  It is a common European practice to feed the carcasses of deceased pets (cats, dogs,etc.) to cows and pigs and to recycle pets back into pet food.  Ironically it is the Swiss government that took the unprecedented step of writing up new legistraton in an attempt to grant dogs,cats, marsupials and other pets full citizenship under the law.  The legislation upgrades the legal status of pets from &#8220;domesticate&#8221; to citizen. But dogs raised specifically for the purpose of human consumption are not considered pets and thus not protected under the law.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 23 23:00:02 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>JennyLynn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1591975</id>
      <content>Didn't know it while I was eating it, but I ate dog meat sausage.  The Swiss like to (usually) eat dog meat processed in some way rather than just sliced etc.  So if in Switzerland make sure you're not eating dog or some part of dog mixed in with your cow etc.  Switzerland is very good at the PR game, which is why so many people in the US (and the world) don't know about the Swiss' love for dog meat.  And NO, I did'nt enjoy it, it gives me no pleasure to know I've eaten Fido.  I love my dog!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 11:38:31 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591926</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>doe</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1592008</id>
      <content>Let me get this right: The Swiss feed their dead pets to the pigs and cows, whose meat is then fed to the pets. Does having a step in between protect from "Mad Dog Disease?"</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 14:34:32 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591926</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Willy Wilson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1592009</id>
      <content>Not just the Swiss, "Europeans."  BTW, my French grandmother verified JennyLynn's assertions.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 14:44:08 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1592008</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Pea</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1592011</id>
      <content>Tripe, snails, hypertrophied goose livers, sweetbreads. Come to think of it, who could be surprised by the French eating dogs? They say that pigs are much smarter that dogs anyway, yet the carnivores among us don't bat an eyelash about pork chops. But I still couldn't eat dog, which is why I asked others what it tasted like. On this one I have to eat vicariously.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 14:52:53 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1592009</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Willy Wilson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1591943</id>
      <content>I don't know where the fooddude went to eat, but I've been to Seoul and ate dog.  It was delicious.  It was served stewed with wild sesame leaves.  It had a mild taste similar to lamb.  </content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 08:19:21 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>bluebetta</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1591985</id>
      <content>This topic is Chowhound Flame Bait #12. If we can talk about it without digressing into politics and polemic, great. But we'll be moderating to ensure it stays on topic....friendly conversation about food, not angry fights or Big Issues.
 
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      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 12:32:08 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>2</id>
        <name>The Chowhound Team </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1592005</id>
      <content>I honestly didn't post with the intention of starting a flame war. I first searched through the boards for mention of dog, and didn't find anything. I obviously didn't search comprehensively enough. And I tried to phrase the question in a neutral way.
 
I wouldn't eat dog meat. It is wrong to eat dog meat? In American culture, someone who eats dog meat is doing something so bizarre that you'd question that person's sanity. If they'll break that taboo, then what other taboo might they break?
 
So my question wasn't about dog meat restaurants in Chicago, or what might or might not be in the egg rolls in Chinatown. It was about dog meat in Korea, where they consume dogs. If it makes anyone feel better, I've been in Asia -- haven't eaten dog meat, and will not -- and can say that the dogs running around the streets are, generally speaking, about as sympathetic as rats in NYC.
 
Now that doesn't mean that I favor eating them -- rats in NYC or dogs in Rangoon. I was only wondering what stronger stomachs than mine thought. Hey, it's a food site. If dog meat is too sensitive a topic, perhaps we should switch the conversation to the consumption of the hypertrophied livers of force-feed geese. Ah, the pleasures of foie gras ...</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 14:30:30 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591985</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Willy Wilson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1592027</id>
      <content>The sale and consumption of dog meat is illegal in Korea.  The ban was introduced in 1988 just prior to the Olympics in Seoul that summer because of the Korean governments concern about it's international image.  But obviously, dogs are still eaten in Korea as well as many other countries. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 16:00:01 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>moroc</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1592061</id>
      <content>Yup, and it's also illegal to change lanes on a highway in Boston without using your turn signal.
 
http://www2.ald.net/~roden/korea/album/dogsinko.htm</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 20:14:57 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1592027</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Willy Wilson</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1592030</id>
      <content>Here we go again.  Every country eats something disgusting to someone else:  Koreans eat dogs but would never eat a horse, Americans eat horses but would never eat a monkey, Cambodians eat monkeys and dogs but would never eat ...so on and so...and the French and the Chinese eat every part of every animal.  Nobody wins this argument.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 16:24:31 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>antacid please</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5197892</id>
      <content>AMEN! </content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 21 03:20:33 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>1592030</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>235936</id>
        <name>satoorisme</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1592049</id>
      <content>I have a workmate who has had dogmeat, and he says that it is similiar to lamb, but tougher.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 24 18:36:58 -0800 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jeff Campbell</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5198180</id>
      <content>Interesting that this thread has taken a light turn to a value judgement of eating a species which also serve as pets, even though the origional question was not addressing that topic.  Clearly a sensitive issue with many as people have a personal connection to some species. 

I am curious why korea also gets associated with dog meat when other cultures have much more prevalence of using dog meat in their diet.  
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      <published_at>Sat Nov 21 08:02:39 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>1591891</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10639</id>
        <name>Soup</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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