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  <id>290802</id>
  <title>The annual pre-holiday cookbook thread</title>
  <published_at>Mon Nov 11 21:00:12 -0800 2002</published_at>
  <post_count>24</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1579902</id>
        <content>OK. It's getting to be that time of year when 'hounds new and old look for cookbooks, either to give or to receive. 
 
So, here's my variant on responding to these seekers: if you could only have 5 cookbooks, which 5 would they be (why 5 you ask: because it's arbitrary and capricious, that's why!!)? Note that the question is NOT what are the five best cookbooks. The answers to that question would likely be very different for many of us....
 
My answer to my question is, in alphabetical order:
 
American Cookery (James Beard)
The Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking (Marcella Hazan)
The New Making of A Cook (Madeleine Kamman)
The Thousand Recipe Chinese Cookbook (Gloria Bey Miller)
The Victory Garden Cookbook (Marian Morash)
 
This list probably betrays my bias towards cooking rather than baking, as it were, but thems the breaks!
</content>
        <published_at>Mon Nov 11 21:00:12 -0800 2002</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Karl S.</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579925</id>
      <content>That's a tough one but here it goes:
 
The French Laundry Cookbook-Thomas Keller 
The Professional Pastry Chef-Bo Friberg
any Culinaria book
The Paris Cookbook-Patricia Wells 
Chez Panisse Cafe Cookbook-Alice Waters </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 01:55:29 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Miss G </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1579986</id>
      <content>Wow, have you ever actually cooked out of the French Laundry or do you mean as a cofee table book?</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 13:58:30 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579925</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>LizR</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1579987</id>
      <content>I've cooked a few things out of it but often have it out as a coffee table "food porn" book. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 14:02:48 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579986</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Miss G </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1580267</id>
      <content>If you had made the hollowed out egg shells with the sheer potato chips I was going to be very impressed...</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 14 12:50:59 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579987</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>LizR</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1580711</id>
      <content>I haven't made any of the apps but I've made some of the main courses and desserts and have gotten nothing but rave reviews from friends and guests.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 18 21:18:14 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1580267</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Miss G </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579927</id>
      <content>The Complete Asian Cookbook(Charmaine Solomon)
1,000 Mexican Recipes(Marge Poore)
A Book of Middle Eastern Food(Claudia Roden)
Everybody Eats Well in Belgium(Ruth van Waerebeek-Gonzalez)
Texas Home Cooking(Cheryl Alters Jamison and Bill Jamison)
 
I think I could eat happily from those five for the rest of my life.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 03:29:27 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Chimayo Joe</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579936</id>
      <content>Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking-Marcella Hazan
The Chinese Kitchen- Eileen Yin-Fei Lo
Delicioso!- Penelope Casas
The Way to Cook- Julia Child
Fish- Mark Bittman</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 07:37:21 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Shawn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579943</id>
      <content>How to Eat by Nigella Lawson -- the cookbook I cook out of the most
 
The New Joy of Cooking -- for recipes and reference
 
Bistro Cooking by Patricia Wells
 
How to Be a Domestic Goddess, by Nigella Lawson.  Good baking book, some interesting preserve recipes
 
Cookwise by Shirley Corriher -- for explanations. 
 
These are really the 5 cookbooks I own that I refer to the most often.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 09:23:39 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin Wheeler</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579946</id>
      <content>Here's my list of cookbooks that I always use:
 
The New All-Purpose Joy of Cooking
 
Jane Brody's Good Food Book
 
Maida Heatter's Book of Great Desserts
 
El Norte--James W. Peyton
 
How To Cook Everything--Mark Bittman
 
Many more cookbooks line my shelves, but I always come back to these.
 
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 09:40:46 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>raj1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579950</id>
      <content>On Food and Cooking: the Science and Lore of the Kitchen (Harold McGee)
 
The Way to Cook (Julia Child)
 
Jacque Pepin's Simple and Healthy Cooking (Jacque Pepin)
 
Modern French Cooking for the American Kitchen (Wolfgang Puck - his first book)
 
The Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking (Marcella Hazan)
 
There are some tremendous meals here, and a lot of information and knowledge.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 10:19:18 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Paul H</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579951</id>
      <content>How to Cook Everything - by Mark Bittman
Marcella Cucina - Marcella Hazan
Naples at Table - Arthur Schwartz
Joy of Cooking - when I can't get the answer from Mark Bittman
The Minimalist Cooks at Home - Mark Bittman</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 10:22:18 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Scribbler</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579952</id>
      <content>How to Cook Everything - Mark Bittman
Lidia's Italian-American Cookbook - Lidia Bastianich
The Best Recipe - Cook's Illustrated
The Essentials of Italian Cooking - Marcella Hazan
Simple Italian Cooking - Mario Batali</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 10:29:10 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Gina</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1579954</id>
      <content>How could I forget The Best Recipe! I love that one!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 10:50:49 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579952</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>raj1</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579953</id>
      <content>How to Cook Everything--Bitman
The Splendid Table--Kasper
Cookwise--Corriher
Sichuan Cookery--Dunlop
Classic Indian Cooking--Sahni</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 10:36:47 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>James G (in Beijing)</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579957</id>
      <content>shooting ducks in a barrel !!!!!!
 
1) The Best Recipe
2) Dean &amp; Deluca (Rosengarten)
3) The Herbfarm Cookbook
4) Tom Douglas Seattle Kitchen
5) Betty Crocker picture cookbook</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 11:04:42 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>john maltman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579959</id>
      <content>Mastering the Art of French Cooking: Julia Child
 
Vegetables from Amaranth to Zucchini: Elizabeth Schneider
 
The Complete Meat Cookbook: Bruce Aidells and Denis Kelly
 
La Varenne Pratique: Anne Willan
 
(a tie for 5th) Fish and Shellfish or Sauces: James Peterson
 
Note that these are not my "favorite" cookbooks, nor those that I cook from most often (In fact, I've never cooked anything from three of them). But they contain most of what I'd need for reference to cook many dishes. Most important, they're interesting reading and would keep me intellectually stimulated in a way that more ordinary cookbooks wouldn't.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 11:11:40 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Janet A. Zimmerman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579970</id>
      <content>These are the five I turn to most often, for recipes or just for reference. You could take away all my others, and I could still do what I do in the kitchen.
 
Bistro Cooking -- Patricia Wells
La Varenne Pratique -- Anne Willan
The Way to Cook -- Julia Child
The Joy of Cooking -- any incarnation will do (I have 2)
Hot, Sour, Salty, Sweet -- don't know the authors' names offhand</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 12:34:09 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>GG Mora</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1579974</id>
      <content>In addition to being useful resources, I find these to be great reads as well:
 
     Mastering the Art of French Cooking, vol. I &amp; II 
     Silver Palate Cookbook
     Gourmet Cookbook, vol. I &amp; II
     Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking
     The Complete Meat Cookbook
 
   </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 13:13:37 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>TomSwift</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1580034</id>
      <content>Staff Meals from Chanterelle - Waltuck (a great cookbook for everyday by a great chef).
 
The Classic Italian Cookbook - Hazan (this is the 1972 original); I don't have Essentials.
 
Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone - Deborah Madison. 
 
Nigella Bites
 
and a tie: Bistro Cooking (Wells) and the Naked Chef Rides Again (Oliver). I use this latter book all the time.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 17:31:21 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Miles</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1580045</id>
      <content>Hard to say, as I love to collect cookbooks just to read and enjoy, but:
 
- Chez Panisse Vegetables
- Joy of Cooking (original edition)
- Northern Italian Cooking (a random paperback book by someone named Bibi Caggiano or somesuch and is just an incredible staple for Italian)
- Silver Palate cookbook ( don't cook much from it anymore but it was my first real cookbook back when)
- Classic Home Desserts  by Richard Sax - the only dessert cookbook I've used in 10 years
 

and this book I don't even have yet but spent an hour at the bookstore reading last weekend and really want:
- the Zuni Cafe Cookbook by Judy Rogers. I hope I get it for christmas.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 18:35:39 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Celeste</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1580054</id>
      <content>Lots of choices.  Tough to settle on 5, but here goes (titles from memory with, no doubt many errors).  Personal favorites:
 
Julia Child, Mastering the Art of French Cooking.
Claudia Roden, The Book of Jewish Food.
Charmayne Solomon, The Complete Asian Cookbook
Ed Giobbi,Eat Right, Live Well -- The Italian Way
Diana Kennedy, Essential Cuisines of Mexico</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 12 20:28:43 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Lew P.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1580093</id>
      <content>Martha Stewart Desserts (Made about half the recipes so far and each has been spectacular)
 
Joy of Cooking (Need a standard, catch-all cookbook, and this is mine)
 
Barefoot Contessa (Great for parties or to make extra for leftovers or the freezer - but I always cut down the fat)
 
The Best Recipe - Cook's Illustrated
 
ONE of my Cooking Light Cookbooks - (Can't remember the name, but the rest are not so good, but it is really helpful for days when I am not feeling so fit).</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 13 12:42:39 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Danielle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1580094</id>
      <content>I can't resist chiming in! Several of these have made many of the lists here, and they're certainly on mine:
 
The Way To Cook, by Julia Child is completely indispensable.
 
Essentials of Classic Italian Cuisine by Marcella Hazan is the best Italian cookbook I've ever seen.
 
I use ALL the Joys of Cooking ALL the time. (So does Julia Child!)
 
Delicioso! by Penelope Casas is extraordinarily useful for everyday AND fancy meals.
 
And the best cookbook I've found in the last few years is Tom Colicchio's THINK LIKE A CHEF. It really changes the way you cook--for the better!
 
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 13 12:43:17 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1579902</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Tom Steele</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1580153</id>
      <content>Many on this thread have mentioned Joy in its various incarnations, but no one has mentioned The Doubleday Cookbook (1975)or The New D'Day Cookbook (1985) by the incomparable Jean Anderson and Elaine Hanna. I use Joy, but more and more I find I rely on D'day. It has similar basic information, but I find the text and instructions are better written and the recipes are more interesting and tastier. 
 
I'm a fan of Jean Anderson's cookbooks (Jean Anderson Cooks is another of my wouldn't-want-to-be-without-its), so my bias may be showing. Anyone else agree that D'day has the edge over Joy?</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 13 17:56:11 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1580094</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Joan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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