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  1. Whaler's Vanille Rum and Bacardi Select.

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    1. re: scott
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      David De Silva

      Bacardi 5 year old is excellent but not cheap. This is one of the few rums I enjoy by itself on the rocks. Pusser's British Navy rum is also very good as well.

      1. re: David De Silva

        Barardi is pure marketing they do not make good rums !

        1. re: Intlexec

          Yes, that's why they've been around since 1862 . . .

          That's why Bacardi Silver is the #1 selling rum in the United States -- it sucks, but all of the people who drink (and enjoy) it are too stupid to know it's no good . . . .

          Marketing helps to sell the FIRST bottle, it's true. Repeat sales are based upon what's actually IN the bottle.

          1. re: zin1953

            So is Budweiser called " The King of Beers"....Your best rum aged 8 years is taste less in compare to many good rums in the market. Have many gold medals have you won worldwide....? Drink some Zacapa Centenario 25, Santa Teresa 1796, Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva...you are not in that league and never will because Bacardi cares about quick made rums ...

            1. re: Intlexec

              *Zacapa 23.

              And Zin has probably had far more good rums than you have.

            2. re: zin1953

              Not sure if you are being facetious or not, but I would agree with you 100%.

              I would bet that 99% of the people who buy bacardi silver are buying it to mix with coke (or other mixers), and don't care that it's no good. They would never dream of drinking rum straight, and just buy what they are familiar with and see on the ads surrounding them, because they just don't care enough about rum to seek out something better.

              I have a friend back home in PA who buys Captain morgan. I have been telling him for over a year to try Brinley's gold shipwreck spiced rum, that once he does he will never get CM again - but so far he has yet to try it. You can lead a horse to water and all that.

              I find it hard to believe that anyone who has access to any of the better inexpensive rums - such as Appleton special, Mt Gay eclipse, Matusalem platino, El Dotrado 3yr, or palo viejo white - would ever buy bacardi silver or gold again.

              1. re: ncyankee101

                Truth be told good marketing does sell a product and yes I doubt anyone is drinking Bacardi silver neat or on the rocks. Well maybe Vodka lovers since that's what it taste like to me.

              2. re: zin1953

                The higher end aged Bacardi rums are pretty good. The silver and gold are mediocre. But, used to be excellent. I was hanging with some friends last fall and we tasted several bottles of Bacardi silver from the late 30's and early 40's. They were amazing, complex, floral, sweet, but not that over sweetened taste and texture that so many rums have, that add sweeteners and spice, to make up for faults in distilling and aging. Just the sweetness that carries over through the distillation and from barrel aging. (And yes, clear rums are barrel aged, usually up to three years, then filtered clear.)

                It's too bad that you can't get many of the better Bacardi rums in the US. I have tried many of the special bottlings the past few years since I know the Bacardi Brand Master. We were on a week long rum cruise of the eastern Caribbean last fall, a group of about forty rum fanatics from the Americas and UK, and after it was over a smaller group of us spent a day hanging out at Bacardi's distillery and aging facilities, tasting stuff that doesn't even go to market, just to family.

                1. re: JMF

                  Same thing happened to patron tequiila. Prior to 2002 it was made by Siete Leguas, which is still an excellent tequila. Once Patron got too big and started making their own, the quality went downhill and the price went up.

                2. re: zin1953

                  Bacardi has been junk for many years. It is just a brand now. Lot's of people eat cheese whiz doesn't mean it's any good.

                  1. re: StriperGuy

                    Still boggles my mind that a yellow product that shoots out of a can has "whiz" in the name.

                    1. re: EvergreenDan

                      Ooooh, never made that connection myself, now I hate it even more.

                3. re: Intlexec

                  All this hate towards Bacardi has more to do with politics than anything else I think.. The black is quite good. I even prefer it to the 8 years old. But the silver is closer to vodka.

                  1. re: CopenhagenNights

                    The 8 and Anejo are indeed good. Never been a fan of the black and we agree the silver is crap

                    There are political issues that go back before the embargo which has no place on this thread

                    1. re: scubadoo97

                      Subsequent to the exit from Cuba, Bacardi quality varies. When I lived in Mexico City, I frequently passed a massive Bacardi distillery off the Periferico on the north side of the city. When I lived in Turks & Caicos, I'm sure the Bacardi came from their distillery in Puerto Rico.
                      As an aside, when I was in "B" school in the 70's with some brand names, a Bacardi scion had a bodyguard. I thought that was cool at the time, but today I think it would be a wretched sign of the times.

                    2. re: CopenhagenNights

                      I haven't seen or even heard of bacardi black until today, doesn't seem to be widely distributed yet, what is the price point?

                      The Bacardi 8 yr is a decent rum but at the same price ($20-24) there are many rums I prefer by a long margin - Pusser's, El Dorado 12 yr, Seales 10 yr, Doorly's XO (amazing $15 rum exclusive to Total Wine), Abuelo 7 yr - I could name many more. The new Mount gay black puts it to shame IMO - being 100 proof doesn't hurt of course.

                      1. re: ncyankee101

                        I think Black and Select are the same. Everything is very expensive in Denmark:

                        Black/Select , Silver, Gold: 130 DKK = 21$
                        8 years: 200 DKK = 33$
                        El Dorado 8: 200 DKK = 33$
                        El Dorado 12: 300 DKK = 49$

                        ED 8 is probably better than Bacardi 8, but not by much.. Wish we had your prices..

                        1. re: CopenhagenNights

                          Try the El Dorado 15 which luckily is about $34 US here in Boston.

                          1. re: CopenhagenNights

                            Ok that makes sense then, I did find a reference to black being renamed as select.

                            I haven't had the 8 yr El Dorado but I have a bottle of the 5 yr and I like it a lot, not as sweet or rich as the 12 yr but excellent in its own less tamed way. There is just something I love about the flavor profile of the whole ED line (and Demeraran rums in general), even the 3 yr is my second favorite white rum next to Banks 5 island (which is much pricier).

                            1. re: ncyankee101

                              Agreed about any of the Demerara rums...

                              1. re: ncyankee101

                                Yank, we agree. But do keep in mind that El Dorado (Demeraran Distillers, Ltd) - while Guyana's only remaining distiller (the country once had about 300), they simply obtained many different stills from these defunct distillers. These include wood and metal, Coffey stills, 2 column stills, four column still, rectifying stills, low capacity and high capacity stills.

                                No two of ED's products use the same stills, nor the same blends. While I agree they do a pretty good job, the products and years are all very different, and barely recognizeable as coming from a single owner.

                                Bottom line: if you don't like one, try another. The 12 year gets the most votes from most competent reviewers.

                                1. re: Capn Jimbo

                                  ... "gets the most votes from most competent reviewers."

                                  This made me chuckle, although I know exactly what you mean. Votes from people who don't share your values and tastes aren't worth much to you. Its an interesting problem in general.

                                  --
                                  www.kindredcocktails.com | Craft + Collect + Concoct + Categorize + Community

                                  1. re: EvergreenDan

                                    Totally agree. I am involved with a group of friends that do lots of blind tastings of many different spirits. I would trust our reviews over any professional reviewer any day.

                          2. re: CopenhagenNights

                            What politics? Bacardi here in the USA hasn't had anything to do with Cuba in 40 years. It has turned into a giant, largely lousy booze conglomerate.

                            1. re: StriperGuy

                              Still a lot of folks hate the USA and also happen to hate Bacardi and love Havana Club. 2) People often hate big companies because they are big.

                              I like Bacardi black AND Havana Club though.. Havent tried El Dorado 3, so for me, Havana Club 3y is the best white rum.

                          3. re: Intlexec

                            Amen! I only drink Bacardi if there is nothing else and I can mix it.

                      2. I used to live in the Dominican REpublic. a good rum is a revelation..

                        Barcelo Gran Anejo. The n in Anejo is an enye...you know the squiggle above it that makes it sound like a cool, special y.

                        peace jill

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                        1. re: jill

                          If you turn Num Lock on on your keyboard, hold down ALT and press 0241 on your keypad, you'll get an enye: ñ Some other characters:
                          ALT 0225 = á
                          ALT 0233 = é
                          ALT 0237 = í
                          ALT 0243 = ó
                          ALT 0250 = ú
                          ALT 0241 = ñ
                          ALT 0252 = ü

                          But back to rum, for sipping I like El Dorado 15 Year Old Guyana and for mixing in fruit-based cocktails Wray & Nephew White Overproof Rum.

                          Link: http://www.internetwines.com/rws20622...

                          1. re: Dancin' Cook

                            Or, for Mac users, Option-N and then N. Option with any other vowel does other diacritics.

                            But this is about rum.

                            My favorite is Appleton Estate Extra, a 12-year Jamaican. It makes OH-MY-GOD amazing Mai Tais. I use Trader Vic's original recipe, using that, DeKuyper orange curaçao, and Torani orgeat syrup. Seriously, best drink EVER.

                            I also keep Appleton White for basic mixing, Pyrat XO for my gold rum (good balance of quality to value), Myers's and Gosling's Black Seal for darks, and some Bacardi 151 for either added kick on things like a Don the Beachcomber style Zombie, or for setting drinks aflame.

                            1. re: Dancin' Cook

                              El Dorado 15 Year Old Demerara Guyana Rum- THE BEST

                          2. There are lots of different ones:

                            For sipping, other poster mentioned Barcelo which is excellent.

                            From the D.R. I also really like the Brugal Anejo.

                            From Puerto Rico, Barillito Three Stars is very good.

                            For giving rum punches and eggnog a good strong rummy flavor, rather than Myers which is a bit too sweet and molassesey I prefer Coruba which is a great dark rum. A bit much to sip on it's own, but great.

                            There are lots of small batch rums coming out these days like all booze. Many of them are good.

                            Good luck.

                            1. check out ministryofrum.com for rum reviews and a rum discussion BBS. very reliable source and expert reviewer.

                              1. For sipping neat, I like Ron Zacapa Centenario or Pyrat Pistol.

                                Cruzan Single Barrel is also good--it has a nice clean flavor, almost reminding me of bourbon.

                                For mixing, I have a couple bottles of Mount Gay.

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                                1. re: Karl B

                                  Some more info...

                                  In the interests of full disclosure, I should note that I found out about Zacapa on the rum message board at egullet.com.

                                  I haven't seen Zacapa in liquor stores; I ordered it from Internet Wines and Spirits (internetwines.com). Zacapa has an oddly sweet flavor, but is really quite good and I highly recommend it.

                                  Pyrat Pistol is extremely aromatic and it took me a while to decide that I liked it.

                                  Another poster mentioned Barbancourt. I've had both the 8-year and the 15-year; I prefer the latter, of course, but both are fine and the 15-year is quite good.

                                  For the Mount Gay--it's a good, middle-of-the-road rum; I really just use it for mixing. I have a bottle of their regular stuff and a bottle of the Extra Old. I don't think the latter is really worth it; there are better rums for drinking straight, and there's not much point in paying the extra money for something you're going to mix with other ingredients.

                                  I also have a bottle of Angostura rum (I forget what they call it, but it's their good stuff), which I don't really care for. It has a strong woody flavor and I get flashbacks about sucking on clarinet reeds.