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jen kalb Oct 28, 2001 07:21 AM

beef loin tip steak (flap meat) - info please

Hey I am really weak on meat nomenclature and cooking. I just purchasesed a big pack of the above cut at costco - what are the best cooking methods? Does it have other common names?

Many thanks for any help you can give.

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    9lives Aug 14, 2011 07:33 AM

    Flap steak is used as steak tips in NE.cut into strips about 1+ inch thick. I love the cut and cook it often. Takes well to marinades...little chewy, not tough. I go for MR-R..not M

    If you have a large piece and don't want to use a knife...cooks well as a roast...great on the grill

    I think the French call it Bavette...not hanger

    Enjoy, it's a great cut.

    eta...cut across th grain

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      Tom34 May 2, 2012 10:26 AM

      Love Flap steak. Do the big box club stores like BJ's & Costco in the Philadelphia Area stock it?

    2. chiffonade Aug 14, 2011 06:02 AM

      I just happened upon this post and this stuff is wonderful. I usually marinate it in soy, worcestershire, brown sugar, chopped garlic and sliced onion. I grill it till rare and for some reason the very best way for me to slice it is with my boning/filet knife. No dea why...LOL. Costco in FL had it all the time but it's nearly impossible to find in Costco in Atlanta.

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        tward Feb 6, 2010 04:06 PM

        This article explains it - http://articles.sfgate.com/2005-03-16...

        Flap meat, flap steak. Called bavette d'aloyau in France, this fan-shaped cut is an extension of the T-bone and Porterhouse on the short loin.

        Flank. This is a large rectangular cut from the flank section with noticeable fibers running through it. Often used in stir-fries.

        Flatiron, top blade steak. Not easy to find in markets, this popular restaurant steak is located on the chuck or shoulder. It's tender but has some gristle.

        Hanger, hanging tender, onglet (in French). This long, narrow muscle hangs off the kidney over the plate; hence the name. It's also called butcher's steak because some butchers apparently would keep it for themselves before it became popular.

        Skirt. This cut is also labeled as fajita meat in this country because of its common use in Tex-Mex cooking. There is an inside skirt and an outside skirt. The outside skirt is the diaphragm muscle.

        Tri-tip. Also sold as a roast, this triangular piece from the sirloin is great on the grill. Bi-Rite's Carne Asada

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          Helen Oct 29, 2001 01:46 PM

          Jen, thought you might be interested in reading this thread from the L.A. board a few months back.

          Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

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            Jim H. Oct 29, 2001 09:24 PM

            That poster was smoking the good stuff if he/she thought they bought a hanger steak at Costco. No way. I am sure that Cosco gets its beef in primal cuts, bagged, and does not buy the whole side.

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            Jim H. Oct 28, 2001 09:18 PM

            I think ironmom is right...it is not onglet or hanger steak, but a cut of the sirloin tip (I think). It is like a coulotte steak. Nicely marbled, but a bit tough. I have had good luck pounding the steaks until rather flat, marinating in teriyaki, and grilling like skirt steak. They do take some tenderizing. I have braised them like short ribs, and they are very tasty that way.

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              Phil Laurie Oct 28, 2001 11:35 AM

              I could be wrong but I believe that the french would call this cut Onglet, and as long as it is kept rare it is one of the best steak cuts, otherwise braise as you would other tougher cuts. I would recommend it rare though, its still a tad chewey but tastes good, with chunkey fries, French ( not Frenches ! )mustard, and a bottle of Cotes de Rhone. Did anyone mention chocolate mousse for pudding........... oh I'm back in Paris again.

              Enjoy

              Phil

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                ironmom Oct 28, 2001 12:46 PM

                I saw a package of "flap meat" at Sam's Club yesterday. I've never seen anything labeled "onglet", so I'm not sure what that's supposed to look like. What I saw (and have purchased in the past) is marbled strips of beef, about 1"x1-1/2"x8", slightly wider at one end than the other. This is a cut of meat I've seen over the years with many different names, all of them undoubtedly unofficial. It normally costs less than $4 a pound.

                Good for grilling and stir fry.

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                  Karl Oct 28, 2001 06:02 PM

                  Onglet is the French word for what we call hanger steak, which is a very different cut of meat (sadly, hanger become trendy, which means the cheap secret cut of meat my father got from our butcher virtually every week in my childhood has become hard to find and definitely not cheap; stop rant). The loin tip is actually a muscle in the round, and is sometimes referred to as sirloin tip.

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                Gastronomos Oct 28, 2001 08:18 AM

                I, generally, marinate it in a 2/1 mix of olive oil to lemon juice. Add some dried herb like oregano and/or thyme (rosemary in small quantities) and some garlic(optional), salt and pepper, mix till thick and marinate for an hour or so. Grill or broil until done to your liking.

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