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Melanie Wong Oct 19, 2001 04:49 PM

This appears to be a notice of recall for the leading producer of Epoisses cheese which has been discussed on these boards many times. Perhaps someone who understands French can tell us if this is a recall only or a cessation of production too.

Link: http://fr.news.yahoo.com/011018/1/24j...

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    Deven Black RE: Melanie Wong Oct 19, 2001 04:59 PM

    This IS a recall due to contamination with the listeria virus. Lots affected are #01312112, for use between 10/10/01 and 10/24/01, and lot #01312132, for use between 10/22 and 10/26.

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      Deven Black RE: Melanie Wong Oct 19, 2001 05:06 PM

      A further reading reveals (I think, my French is pretty rusty) that in order to prevent further infection they are going to stop production for eight weeks. Presumably they will spend the time cleaning.

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        Leslie Brenner RE: Melanie Wong Oct 19, 2001 10:47 PM

        Hey Melanie...This is a recall only, not a cessation of production. Deven, I couldn't for the life of me find the mention of eight weeks. Maybe I'm blind!

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          Deven Black RE: Leslie Brenner Oct 20, 2001 12:13 AM

          As I said my French is rusty. There is a mention of eight weeks in the next to last paragraph. On second reading it seems to be about the incubation period of listeria, perhaps how long before one might notice one was infected. Sorry not to be of more help. We never covered food poisoning in high school French, even in the advanced class, and H.S. French was 30 years ago.

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            garçon RE: Deven Black Oct 20, 2001 02:01 AM

            Yes, 8 weeks is the maximum incubation period for listeria. Older persons, pregnant women and persons with immune deficiencies are particularly vulnerable.

            The company said that their cheese had been inspected and tested negative for the bacteria after production and that they were trying to identify the source of the infection.

            Voila!

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          HLing RE: Melanie Wong Oct 20, 2001 10:30 AM

          Here is a literal (and mildly amusing)translation of the article:

          "...Withdrawal of the sale of cheeses Epoisses Berthauxpresenting of the listeri
          LYON, Oct. 18 (AFP) - the cheese dairy Berthaux d' Epoissesproceeded Thursday towithdrawal of the sale of some of its cheeses on which the presence of
          listeria monocytogenes was highlighted, learns one in an official statement.
          This warning concerns the people who would hold already these products so that they do not consume them and bring them backto their point of sale, according to the same source.

          It acts of the cheeses Epoisses Berthaux 250 G and with thecut, concerning batches No 01312112 optimal date.limite.d'.utilisation20/10/01 and 24/10/01 and
          No 01312132, optimal date.limite.d'.utilisation 22/10/01 and26/10/01.
          The people who would have consumed these cheeses and whowould present fever accompanied or not by headaches are invited to consultone doctor in their announcing this consumption. This warning concerns in
          first place pregnant women, immuno-depressed people and them old people.
          The Berthaux company prevents that the listeriosis can be serious and that sound maximum time of incubation can go up to eight weeks.
          It stresses that, before their marketing, cheeses
          accused " had profited with each stage from manufacture and in private individual at their exit of the factory of controlsnot having revealed any trace
          of listeria monocytogenes ". It specifies to put " all works about it for to identify the elements which led to this situation "

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            Deven Black RE: HLing Oct 20, 2001 10:45 AM

            Did you make this translation using an online translator program? It reads kind of mechanical, if you know what I mean. Still, it is better than my H.S. French.

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              HLing RE: Deven Black Oct 20, 2001 05:53 PM

              This is using T-mail. Takes about 2 seconds. Amazingly funny sometimes. I remember once I sent it a German lieder text, actually, a very moving poem by Heine, and got back something in English that kept me laughing for hours...

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            Guy Lesperance RE: Melanie Wong Oct 20, 2001 02:15 PM

            What this news bulletin says is that the cheese Epoisses Berthaux is being recalled because of contamination with listeria, a spore which causes flu like symptoms, headache and fever. Incubation may take up to eight weeks. It is a dangerous illness, if unchecked, it may result in death.

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              Melanie Wong RE: Melanie Wong Oct 21, 2001 12:37 PM

              Thanks to all for your help with translation. This release had been forwarded to me with a note that Berthaux Epoisses would be no more. My minimal reading skill came up with a different take, and I'm happy to know that this will probably only be a temporary setback for the company.

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                LynnKane RE: Melanie Wong Oct 22, 2001 09:07 AM

                No sooner does my office get the all-clear from Anthrax--then I arrive back at work, turn on my computer--and learn from Chowhound that the half a pound of Epoisses I had such a decadently delicious experience with three weeks ago, may have been in that listeria batch! Oh, well..... And to think I was so pleased that I got the last piece cut fresh from a fat creamy, tangy cylinder of the stuff.. Anyway, it was a superb piece of cheese--and, so far, so good. No symptoms!

                Alice and I did toss out the other two small Epoisses cartons we'd stocked up on, as we could see the dates on those--and the batch number was only one off--and the date, Oct 27--which we decided was a little too close to the Oct 26 cutoff date. So criminal to have to discard those amazing cheeses...

                Does anyone else think it's a possibility that they ate the "right cheese at the wrong time??" :-)

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                  Deven Black RE: LynnKane Oct 22, 2001 12:18 PM

                  Relax, Lynn! First of all, unlike the relationship between most of us and anthrax, almost all of us are exposed to listeria on a fairly regular basis. Problems come when one has a compromised immune system or when one is exposed to much larger than normal doses.

                  As for throwing out the batch one number away from the infected batch, well, I wouldn't have done it, but then I take a very fatalistic view of life.

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