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  <id>287674</id>
  <title>Alternatives to Harry &amp;amp; David's</title>
  <published_at>Fri Sep 28 17:25:11 -0700 2001</published_at>
  <post_count>14</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1548785</id>
        <content>Where would you go to buy fruit on the Net?</content>
        <published_at>Fri Sep 28 17:25:11 -0700 2001</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>David Feldman</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1548789</id>
      <content>What kind of fruit?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 28 17:38:55 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548785</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Carolyn Tillie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1548824</id>
      <content>She is looking for any kind of fruit, but since this will be a Christmas gift, I guess it would be appropriate to be a place that offers at least some fruits that are available in the winter.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 00:28:12 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548789</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>David Feldman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1548826</id>
      <content>I guess I need specifics -- since I live in California, I can't think a fruit that ISN'T available, even in winter...
 
Isn't that why Harry &amp; David's has thrived? They supply erstwhile unavailable fruits to parts of the country that can't get certain products?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 01:15:07 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548824</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Carolyn Tillie</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1548835</id>
      <content>Has not Harry &amp; David's thrived because they have bio-engineered pears that are jucier than anything.  The question is, as good as a pear can be, why would anyone want to pay that much money for one?  Maybe once upon a time, things like truffles and cavier were in the same league, and it took guys like Harry &amp; David to get people to pay large sums of money for those products too.
 
The good news is that if you go into a Harry &amp; David store, especially one in an outlet mall (Michigan City for those in the area), their jellies are, it seems, always on sale.  Buy as many as you can carry as they will last a long, long time un-opened.  For all your friends in DC, give them jars of marrionberry jam.
 
VI</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 10:16:16 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548826</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Vital Information</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1548793</id>
      <content>Anywhere but Harry &amp; David. Their prices are insanely high.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 28 18:13:30 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548785</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>2chez mike</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1548836</id>
      <content>For Florida citrus fruit I really like Blood's Groves in Delray Beach. Their 2001 website isn't up yet but they say that it will be up in a couple of weeks. They will begin shipping during the second week of November. I particularly like their grapefruits and honeybell tangelos. They have all sorts of gift packages and also sell some prepared foods like marmalade, coconut patties and key lime cookies. The quality of their fruit is very high.
 
Here's the link to last year's website:

Link: http://www.bloodsgroves.com/2000Site/index.cfm?do=list&amp;categoryid=1</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 10:25:23 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548785</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Nancy Berry</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1548894</id>
      <content>Thanks, Nancy.  Have you ever tried Cushman's Citrus?  It comes highly recommended in the Engel sisters' "Food Finds."</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 00:54:16 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548836</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>David Feldman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1548897</id>
      <content>I haven't tried any other citrus places, Dave. Most of these, including Blood's, won't ship citrus to California, Texas or Arizona and I live in San Francisco. I've been to Blood's in Florida, and my parents used to have them send their produce to my siblings in N.Y. and Milwaukee.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 11:00:05 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548894</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Nancy Berry</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1548843</id>
      <content>I'm glad you raised this question. I keep hoping that somebody at chowhound will come up with a viable alternative. Harry &amp; David is expensive--but dammit their pears are worth it. I've never had another pear as good as theirs. I wish I could find the same quality pears for half the money somewhere else on line. But so far at least, no one here (nor anybody else I know) has come up with another source.
 
And as far as their pears being bio-engineered, I don't think so. They tasted this good thirty years ago and they've been shipping expensive deluxe pears now for nearly 70 years.
 
</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 12:25:24 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548785</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>e.d.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1548845</id>
      <content>I believe pinnacle farms (orchards?) is another high quality mailorder vendor of the comice pears.  They are not "bioengineered" they are just a superior french variety that for many years was sold almost exclusively by H&amp;D.  I have had Pinnacle's pears in the past and they are equally excellent. I have also bought small comice pears 3/$ in Chinatown and similar value conscious markets from time to time - the small or slightly marred pears are equally good, actually better for single servings but not so suitable for mailorder.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 12:46:10 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548843</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>jen kalb</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1548904</id>
      <content>Thanks for the information. I will seek out Pinnacle. I have had comice pears bought in supermarkets, but the quality has never been as good--more gritty and less creamy when ripe. 
 
Thanks again!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 16:20:38 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548845</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>e.d.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1548844</id>
      <content>Dave:  The most beautiful and delicious fruit baskets I've seen come from Manhattan Fruitier:

Link: http://www.manhattanfruitier.com/scripts/WebObjects.dll/Manhattan</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 12:44:49 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548785</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Pat Hammond</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1548893</id>
      <content>Thanks to all for your ideas.
 
I'm another big fan of Manhattan Fruitier.  Fine quality and excellent service.
 
My only cavil is that shipping costs for out-of-state items can be prohibitive.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 30 00:50:20 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548844</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Dave Feldman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1548850</id>
      <content>For the best grapefruit you will ever eat order from Red Cooper. Its expensive but WORTH every bite
 


Link: http://www.redcooper.com/</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 29 15:58:09 -0700 2001</published_at>
      <parent_id>1548785</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Susan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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