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Low Calcium & Low Oxylate Diet

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Dee Gustay Sep 17, 2001 07:30 PM

My brother-in-law has just been put on a diet low in BOTH calcium and oxylates. He and my sister have pored over the two diets provided by the doctor--they cancel each other out on a lot of items--and have given me a list of the things that are allowed on both. (As the "cook" and "chowhound" in the family, I've been charged with sending them recipes!) I've searched the web in vain for lists of foods either banned or allowable on either diet. I know more than I want to know about interactions, why one would be placed on such a diet, etc. but absolutely no practical advice on menu planning beyond the short list my sister and b-in-law were able to cull themselves. (Most meats are okay, NO leafy green veggies like spinach, etc., but broccoli, asparagus, cauliflower, carrots, corn okay. Limited tomatoes. Carbs okay but NOT whole grains, brown rice. No dairy, eggs, or dried beans.)

Any chowhounds on similar dietary restrictions with more insight and info than we have? What about fruits? Other allowable vegetables? How about herbs? Mushrooms? We're wondering if a "sprinkle" of freshly grated parm on pasta is okay. Thankfully, peppers seem to be okay, and my b-in-law likes his food spicey!

Thanks for your help.

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    Ruby RE: Dee Gustay Sep 17, 2001 08:22 PM

    Hi Dee, IMO, this is not an inquiry for Chowhounds but one for a professional nutritionist. You don't state why the doctor put your sister and brother-in-law on this diet low in calcium and oxylates but I still believe they need to see a nutritionist.

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      Dee Gustay RE: Ruby Sep 17, 2001 09:28 PM

      Thanks, Ruby. Re-reading my post, I can see that I wasn't as clear as I could have been. We know why my b-in-law was put on the diet, as to medical conditions. A nutrionist is probably next on their agenda but in the meantime they've called on me to help keep interesting, good-tasting food on their menu. I'm simply looking for very practical info on ingredients that work in both low calcium and low oxylate diets. For instance, I do a Joel Robuchon dish with veal and asparagus and wild mushrooms. We know that the veal and asparagus work on his diet. But not if mushrooms do. That's the kind of thing I'm looking for. Like I said, I found all sorts of info on the web about conditions, etc., but not basic lists of allowable ingredients on either diet.

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        zora RE: Dee Gustay Sep 17, 2001 11:35 PM

        Mushrooms have just about zero nutritional value, and so are unlikely to contain any calcium or oxalic acid.

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          helen RE: zora Sep 21, 2001 11:00 PM

          Hey speaking of weird diets are there any chowhounds out there unfortunately blessed with celiac sprue?
          its the worst no gluten
          no wheat oats barley rye
          give me some support it sucks to never eat normal bread or cereal.

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            Jinnka Jones RE: helen Dec 19, 2001 05:07 PM

            I feel for ya sista. I was just handed my walkin' papers earlier this year. So! I miss real bread and cereal and god love us, PIZZA too. I know you've got no kitchen, but if you want I've got some recipes for cake, one chocolate and one almond/apricot that are pretty dang good. Ok I lied. The chocolate one is FANTASTIC! (I can't tell) and some info on different types of flours if you want to attempt to bake things yourself. Also there's a lot of alternative products that you can buy like pastas and breads made of corn or rice. Check your local health food stores. If they don't have it, maybe they can order it. But for a really great resource check out:

            http://www.celiac.com/

            Other good places to look for info:

            www.livingwithout.com
            http://foodallergy.what.cc/

            Bette Hagman has also written half a dozen books on cooking without Gluten. To take a sneek peek check out:

            http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/sea...

            Link: http://www.celiac.com/

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      Miriam RE: Dee Gustay Sep 18, 2001 02:22 PM

      ABout 20 years ago I suffered a few years with kidney stones, eventually surgically removed. The doctors weren't quite sure what caused the stones but recommended a diet without calcium or oxylates. As I recall, the list of allowable foods was depressingly tiny--beside the usual dairy suspects, the list included all sorts of green vegetables. (I think I was allowed to eat meat and starch--some of my favorites, of course.) So: You might want to check with a branch of the National Kidney Foundation for starters, or with a urologist? (BTW, when the doctors couldn't conclusively say that's what caused the kidney stones, I said goodby to the diet and have never had a recurrence.)

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