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Mark K Jul 2, 2001 10:28 AM

My sister just brought my second nephew into the world last Thursday. My folks will be hosting the Brice at their home in NJ this upcoming Friday. Mom is looking for some help in selecting interesting cheeses that will work well with traditional Jewish Appetizers. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    MU Jul 2, 2001 03:19 PM

    It doesn't sound like this will be a kosher affair (if it is, forget all about cheese), but nonetheless I really hope you're not serving cheese with chopped liver!

    BTW -- all the suggested lists sound awesome.

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      Eric Eto Jul 2, 2001 03:14 PM

      First, establish the limits of the "stinkyness" factor of the group. You want to vary the cheeses by texture and flavor and types of milk and perhaps country of origin. And maybe throw one in to see who the real enthusiasts are. Here are a few off the top of my head that I know are widely available at cheese counters. It's good to ask the cheesemonger for other recommendations if you know and like a certain style. ... I think I went a little crazy with the list ... what can I say, I used to sell cheese.

      Soft Cheeses
      Brie - mild
      Teleme - mild
      Saint Andre - mild/creamy
      Explorateur - mild/creamy
      Pave d'Affinois - mild
      Camembert - mild
      Chaumes - mild
      St. Albray - med
      L'edel de Cleron - med
      Taleggio - med
      Pont L'eveque - med/sharp
      Livarot - med/sharp
      Muenster (gerome) - sharp
      Reblochon - sharp

      Swiss-Type Cheese
      Leerdamer - mild
      Jarlsberg - mild
      Emmentaler - mild
      Gruyere - medium
      Comté - medium
      Appenzeller - sharp
      Tete de Moine - sharp

      Semi Soft Cheese
      Fontal - mild
      Asiago (fresh) - mild
      Chimay - mild
      Oka - mild
      Pyrenee - mild
      Deux de Montagne - mild
      Saint Nectaire - mild, nutty
      Tomme de Savoie - mild nutty
      Sardo - med
      Morbier - med
      Fontina - med
      French Raclette - med
      Swiss Raclette - sharp
      Esrom - sharp

      Blue Cheese
      Blue Kastello - mild
      Cambazola - mild
      Montbriac - mild
      Montanolo - mild
      Fourme d'Ambert - med
      Blue d'Avergne - med
      Maytag Blue - med
      Stilton - sharp
      Shropshire - sharp
      Cabrales - sharp
      Gorgonzola (dolce latte) - sharp
      Roquefort - sharp

      Hard Cheese
      Asiago - med
      Aged Gouda - mild/med
      Aged Jack - mild/med
      Idiazabel - med
      Manchego - mild/med
      Cheddars - mild/sharp
      Caerphilly - mild
      Wensleydale - mild

      Goat Cheese
      Montrachet - mild
      Boucheron - med
      Pyramide - mild
      Crottin - med
      Sainte Maure - med

      Sheepsmilk (pecorino) Cheese
      Etorki - med
      Sardo - med
      Manchego - mild/med
      Toscanello - med

      1 Reply
      1. re: Eric Eto
        Jeremy Newel Jul 2, 2001 03:21 PM

        Thank you for this list!!! I have saved it for future reference. It will be invaluable for future wine-tastings.

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        howard Jul 2, 2001 12:29 PM

        My favorite goat cheese is Humboldt Fog made by Cypress Grove. Tangy with a slightly smoked flavor. Matches up well with a Sauvignon Blanc.

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          Lynn Jul 2, 2001 12:22 PM

          While you haven't mentioned exactly which Jewish appetizers will be served, here are a variety of cheese plates that I'd be pleased to find at a Bris (the baby, of course, will not be pleased about ANYTHING! :-)

          Generally speaking, I'd go for a soft or hard goat cheese, a sheepsmilk, a raw-milk (if possible) ripe full-flavored brie-type, a Jarlberg or Leerdamer (for those who aren't into unusual cheeses,)and a Spanish or Italian cheese (soft like Taleggio or "snacky" like Ricotta Salata or Pecorino,) an English hard cheese and some Stilton. Oh yes, and a dessert cheese.

          Specifically, here's a varied plate they might like (not that I'm suggesting you serve ALL of it! :-) These are just some of my favorites.

          --Petite Billy or Valencay Goatsmilk
          --Soft goat cheese in ash or herbs or a Montrechet or Boucheron.
          --Quesar del Torta (Spanish - should be soft,ripe)
          --Ripe French Muenster (the real strong tasty stuff--not what we grew up thinking muenster cheese was!)
          --La del de Cleron brie-type cheese--ripe
          --Italian Pecorino (for nibbling) or Taleggio or Strachino for spreading.
          --English Porter Cheese--this fairly-new import is delicious--it's flavored with beer and is cut from a large round chunk and you'll spot it by its most unusual coloring--brown-and yellow marbling--covered in a waxy rind.
          --a nutty-flavoried Jarlsberg type cheese -- Appenzeller?
          --A British hard cheese: Lancashire, Caerphilly, Wensleydate, aged Cheddar or Derby Sage.
          --Two blue cheeses: the English Colston Bassett Stilton and either a German Palladin (nice and tangy) or a soft Italian docellate.
          --a sweet caramel-flavored Gjetost--a good dessertcheese.

          (I'm not suggesting my favorite Italian truffle-cheese, because it's ridiculously expensive for a party--and you deserve to eat it all by yourself. :-)

          I have to say, that being Jewish myself, the above may not exactly compliment the herrings, the sturgeon, and the bagels and lox, if that is what's being served. But if I were arriving at the party, I'd sure be happy to see this cheese plate.

          Have a wonderful get-together and mazel-tov to the new parents!

          5 Replies
          1. re: Lynn
            ben fisher Jul 2, 2001 01:31 PM

            Lord! I think I would instantly attain samadhi if I saw a cheese plate like that. That, or suffer the ill effects of eating too much cheese for several weeks.

            How can you tell if you have a ripe muenster? That and the caerphilly have me really curious.


            1. re: ben fisher
              Lynn Jul 2, 2001 01:59 PM

              Am just racing from the office for two days--will try to answer your question from my sister's computer later!! I'm computerless in my apt!

              1. re: Lynn
                jen kalb Jul 2, 2001 04:02 PM

                What you put on your plate depends on your audience - you will have some real conservative folks, but with luck you will have some cheese lovers too.

                Be sure to provide something to eat the cheese with and knives to cut it - lots of people seem to put out the cheese with fruit but without any bread or crackers. For hard cheeses that may be ok (you know, the kind of spread with squares and toothpicks), but with creamy or crumbly cheeses, its a big mistake.

                (1) a blue cheese - roquefort is supreme and bleu de causse and cabrales, in chestnut leaves are close runners up, but saga and some of the other modern bleus are very popular with a crowd. Cheeseheads really appreciate seeing a blue cheese on that tray.
                (2) a tangy sheep cheese - idiazabal from spain is a bit smoky and particularly nice. Manchego, crotonese or one of the other younger eating pecorinos or from italy or brebis from france are nice. some of the creamier sheep cheeses like etorki are also popular.
                (3) a creamy young goat cheese, maybe rolled in herbs. I particularly like some of the ones with rosemary and other dry herbs that feel very mediterranean, but the fresher versions, with tarragon, garlic etc. are also very nice.The humboldt fog, with a line of ash through it that somebody suggested would also look nice on a cheese tray.
                (4) one or more firm cheese - say an edam, gruyere or emmenthaler or maybe a cheddar to add color to your plate and suit the more conservative crew.
                (5) a soft-ripened cheese, like taleggio, st. nectaire, camembert, oka, or brie.

                ps. try to taste the cheeses as you are buying them and ask the cheese sellers advice on what is good. If you have to buy packaged cheese, take a good look at it and if it has been packaged up very long at all, avoid it. Buy from a place that has good turnover.

                Good luck and enjoy!

                1. re: jen kalb
                  Mark M Jul 2, 2001 05:36 PM

                  Thanks so much to everyone for their input. These lists will really help mom out. Ive just faxed her your suggestions.

              2. re: ben fisher
                Lynn Jul 3, 2001 03:44 PM

                Hi, Ben--I'm borrowing my sister's computer to answer your questions from yesterday about Muenster and Caerphilly.

                Ripe Muenster/Munster--

                Most of us grew up with American Muenster cheese--that dull, flavorless, smooth, sliced-from-a-loaf stuff that was crammed into sandwiches. There was no such thing as "ripe"--in fact, there was no taste, no smell, no nothing! The German and Danish varieties are more appealing, but still incredibly mild.

                But FRENCH muenster (the name muenster refers to "monastery") is the jewel in the crown. It's made from cow's milk and is described as "sharp, beefy, and nutty." I would add creamy. A nice, smelly (but tasty)orange washed-rind surrounds it. It may be hard to believe that something so smelly can taste so good--but trust me--it does!

                I think that Alsace-Lorraine is the primary source for Muenster--and the "Gerome" variety (a village name)is the kind I usually buy. It comes either individually in a small round wooden box--or can be sliced off a larger round wedge. (I buy it sliced, so that I can taste it first.) Before it ages, it has little of its great flavor--I've never bought it unripe.) But when it's ripe, it is soft, creamy--sort of straw-colored inside. And the washed-rind actually adds to the flavor. Taste it before you buy it--I've had some intense, wonderful pieces recently (from Zabar's and Fairway's.)


                I really like this tangy Welsh cheese--tho it can get dry, if not stored well. It's both creamy and crumbly(VERY crumbly,)but does make a delicious melted cheese and tomato sandwich. Otherwise, I just put it in a bowl and eat it--crumbs and all. It's cow's milk--semi-firm. Rather mild with almost a lemon tang. A great snacking cheese. If it's not too dry-looking, it's usually ripe. Again, try a taste at the shop, first.

                Enjoy both cheeses!

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