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Apr 3, 2001 11:25 AM

Two articles today

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Two articles in the NY Times today that may be of interest to chowhounds. One is J. Steingarten's op-ed piece about the Joy of Eating, the URL is

The other is a Metro section piece about the latest immigrant group to open pizzerias and "Italian" delis, namely Albanians:

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  1. Man, they're so LATE with stuff. Albanians have been running pizzerias in town for DECADES.
    The place mentioned in the Bronx for pizza and boureks has been old news to chowhound for many years, and the writer missed three bourek-selling Albanian pizzerias in Queens (and, for that matter, all the South American pizzerias in Queens with interesting non-pizza items...and all the Sikh pizzerias in Queens...etc).

    And Albanians have NOT been "using pizzerias to segue into the middle and higher ends of the restaurant business". That's untrue. Albanians have run both high-end Italian restaurants and pizzerias in NYC for an eternity. I mentioned this in Time Out like six years ago, and it was old news then.

    Shouldn't newspaper reporters be on the cutting edge? That's their job, no?

    4 Replies
    1. re: Jim Leff
      stephen kaye

      I may be wrong, but I think Flames in briarcliff manor, is also owned by Albanians??

      1. re: stephen kaye

        EVERYTHING is owned by Albanians!

      2. re: Jim Leff
        C. Mentsch Ooze

        On the other hand, check out this uncommonly brazen attribution (I'll keep the quote short, so it's fair-use of the copyrighted material):

        "The Italians can't do the work anymore, they've gotten fat in America," said Joe Carnevalla, an Italian- American whose company supplies groceries to 700 pizzerias in the New York area."

        For an amusing exercise, try searching for Joe or Joseph Carnevalla on the Internet. Not a trace. Heh.

        1. re: C. Mentsch Ooze

          Try "Carnevale". There are a lot of Carnevales in my neck of the woods. If the reporter can be so far off base about his facts, why not his spelling?

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        Caitlin Wheeler

        Jeffrey Steingarten makes me want to get a subscription to Vogue.