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Rodenbach demise

Robert Dec 26, 2000 04:25 PM

Jim etal,

I've heard two independant nasty rumors that Rodenbach is closing its brewery. Something about the casts being to old for future use and the new barrels are producing a much inferior pruduct. Therefore the brewer is calling it quits. "Say its not so."

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    Jim Dorsch RE: Robert Dec 26, 2000 06:58 PM

    I believe the situation is that Palm bought the brewery and intends to discontinue Alexander, but will still sell regular Rodenbach and Grand Cru. I was just going to check with the importer on this for another reason, and will report on my findings.

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    1. re: Jim Dorsch
      Robert RE: Jim Dorsch Dec 27, 2000 09:29 AM

      Please keep me posted on what you find. I've begun stock piling measures and need to know if the basement will be big enough.
      P.S. Who is Palm?

      1. re: Robert
        Rob RE: Robert Dec 27, 2000 01:52 PM

        In the United States, I believe that Palm's main product -- a strong Duvelish pale ale called Palm -- is marketed as Scaldis.

        1. re: Rob
          Jim Leff RE: Rob Dec 27, 2000 02:09 PM

          No, no, no. Scaldis is the american version of Bush Beer (a name which Annheisser Busch--sp?--won't permit under trademark law).

          Palm has sometimes been imported, I don't think it is right now (at least not to my area). Strong ale, very good, not as good as Scaldis.


          1. re: Jim Leff
            Jim Dorsch RE: Jim Leff Dec 27, 2000 03:57 PM

            Palm is a Belgian pale ale, something like De Konninck or the American Fat Tire. A nice beer but not so profound as Scaldis. Of course, you can drink several Belgian pale ales in an evening, but wouldn't survive a steady diet of Scaldis, which has 12% alc/vol.

            On the subject of Anheuser-Busch, I don't know enough (well, I know nothing) about trademark law to say if Bush/Scaldis could theoretically defend their use of the Bush name in the US, but even if they could, I'm sure they wouldn't have or want to devote the resources to fight them on it.

            Palm was sold in the US at one time (I remember seeing it in the early 1980s), but I haven't seen it in many years.

            1. re: Jim Dorsch
              Ivan Stoler RE: Jim Dorsch Dec 27, 2000 04:19 PM

              Palm was imported by the good folks in Cooperstown NY (Van berg + de Wulf?). I always thought it was a middling level Belgian. It has a sort of citrusy taste at the end.

              1. re: Jim Dorsch
                Jim Leff RE: Jim Dorsch Dec 27, 2000 06:42 PM

                woops, you're right. Palm's just over 5%. I haven't had it in years (as you note, it's been scarce on these shores for a while).

                re: trademark law, I know a bit, and Busch Beer definitely oversteps Anheuser-Busch. I'm not sure if shots were fired or if Scaldis just saw the potential problem and skirted it, but that's the reason for the name change

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