286602 Tue Sep 26 16:47:11 -0700 2000 20 27 General Chowhounding Topics 0 1537778 A few times this summer I've seen them at street fairs and festivals in central NJ. Apparently, the Oreos are dipped in batter and deep fried. I couldn't bring myself to try them. Has anyone had the pleasure? Tue Sep 26 16:47:11 -0700 2000 0 Bilmo 1 1537780 Yeah, I saw those too, at the San Gennaro -- I wouldn't say that I "couldn't bring myself" to try them so much as that they just held no appeal. It was a little troubling trying to figure out who would eat such a thing. Tue Sep 26 17:16:58 -0700 2000 1537778 0 Jeremy Osner 2 1537789 I saw and bypassed them as well. Restrictions on alcohol notwithstanding, did anyone else find this an off year for the feast? Soggy calamari, burnt sausages with rancid peppers on soggy bread, unyeasty, overly greasy zeppoli (and I like grease)? Perhaps we need a Chowhound Feast First Alert, noting which booths each year are good, bad, or poisonous. On the other hand, one of the '60s/'70s cover bands (the first Friday night) was excellent. Tue Sep 26 21:19:17 -0700 2000 1537780 0 AHR 3 1537800 "Perhaps we need a Chowhound Feast First Alert," How about a Chowhound Feast of our own? Man, that would be great... Wed Sep 27 01:21:47 -0700 2000 1537789 0 Jim Leff 4 1537816 I'll bring the fried Oreos! Wed Sep 27 20:55:40 -0700 2000 1537800 0 AHR 4 1537817 Perhaps this belongs in Site Talk, but: Note that the title of this message, as with my other, parallel message, is not the same as your message to which it is a response. However, I didn't change it; the software seems to have reverted it to the original thread subject. Wed Sep 27 20:59:21 -0700 2000 1537800 0 AHR 5 1537821 weird. thanks. checking. Wed Sep 27 23:31:55 -0700 2000 1537817 0 Jim Leff 1 1537783 The post about Oreos reminds me of a Wall Street Journal article several years ago about the terrible diets of people who live in Glasgow, largely focused on their love of deep fried foods. It said that a favorite dessert at fish and chip shops was a batter dipped deep fried Mars Bar (I believe that's a Milky Way to us Yanks). Maybe that's where the Oreo idea comes from. Tue Sep 26 17:48:47 -0700 2000 1537778 0 rjka 2 1537786 Actually, a Mars Bar is a Mars Bar, not a Milky Way, and Mars Bars are avialable in the US. They are (natch) made by M&M/Mars, and the filling is nougat with almonds, and maybe a layer of caramel, but I don't remember. Tue Sep 26 18:40:23 -0700 2000 1537783 0 Caitlin 3 1537804 The Mars company has a long and tangled history. Read the book "The Emperors of Chocolate". The Mars company in the UK for a long time was run pretty independently of the one in the US and shared trademarks but did not necessarily use them on the same product. When I was a kid a long time ago and spent some time in the UK, the "Mars" bar there was not the same as the "Mars" bar sold in the US and was actually a Milky Way. The US Mars bar had almonds and a white nougat filling. Of course over the past 30 years the company may have brought the UK products more into alignment with the US. Wed Sep 27 08:57:13 -0700 2000 1537786 0 rjka 4 1538497 This string of responses is on the right track but still not correct. The Mars bar is a Mars bar, but Mars bars come in different flavors (similar to the way M&M's do) some with nuts, some with dark chocolate, etc. If candy bars are your thing, then check out the internation foods stores in the city or the sections in some of the larger grocery stores. Some places have the candy bars that are available in the UK. Interestingly, most of these candy bars are readily available and even made in Canada. Does anyone know what the Caramilk Secret is? The Caramilk Bar is another candy bar that is not commonly available here in the US. This is just one example of how candy bars seem to be marketed in specific areas. It was only 5 or so years ago that Nestle Crunch bars were available in Canada. There are a number of companies that make candy bars here in the US that make different products that they don't sell here and many of them are excellent. I have included the website for one of the Canadian Companies. I have tried many of their products and recommend you try them if you ever see them. Link: http://www.chocolate.ca/live_/index.htm# Thu Nov 09 12:56:51 -0800 2000 1537804 0 Michael 5 1538504 Cadbury does not produce products for the US. It licensed its rights to the US market to Hershey about 10 years ago or so. Hershey produces all the Cadbury product sold in the US, unless it is coming in in small quantities via an importer from Canada or the UK for sale in specialty candy shops. I would guess that Hershey does not see big sales opportunities for Caramilk, although I would swear that I have seen it in some stores from time to time. Thu Nov 09 17:20:17 -0800 2000 1538497 0 rjka 6 1538508 My husband, who is English, swears that the difference between English chocolate (by which he pretty much means Cadbury's) and American chocolate is in the use of corn syrup as a sweetener. He swears he can taste the difference when they use corn syrup instead of real sugar. Check the ingredients, almost all candy-rack chocolates here in the U.S.(as well as chocolate milk) are made with corn syrup. English Cadbury's chocolates really are lots better, especially Wispa bars...whipped chocolate inside a coating of solid, smooth chocolate, just unbelievable. I once found a whole case of them at a local railroad salvage store, but the only reliable place to get them is in international markets. Thu Nov 09 20:39:32 -0800 2000 1538504 0 toni 7 1538515 Does he mean the difference between Cadbury in the UK and Cadbury in the US, or between Cadbury and say Hershey? My recollection from the book "The Emperors of Chocolate" is that the Hershey production process was very unusual and different from the way chocolate is produced in any other country-which is why Hershey has been very unsuccessful outside the US. Fri Nov 10 09:51:38 -0800 2000 1538508 0 rjka 8 1538527 He means any chocolate that lists corn syrup as a sweetener, either instead of or in addition to sugar. The Cadbury candy we get here uses corn syrup, as does Hershey and Nestle and just about everybody else. What does Hershey do differently? I always thought that their chocolate seemed to have a different 'bite' to it. It seems harder, and less 'grainy' than other kinds of chocolate. It's not my favorite really, but chocolates are like backrubs, even the mediocre ones are pretty good. Fri Nov 10 13:50:29 -0800 2000 1538515 0 toni 9 1538533 Actually, I think Hershey is grainier than most chocolates. I would really recommend reading the book I mentioned, "The Emperors of Chocolate" which has a lot on this. My recollection is that there was a standard type of production for chocolate in Europe, but Milton Hershey experimented on his own and came up with something unique than Europeans thought was 'burned' chocolate. Fri Nov 10 16:05:12 -0800 2000 1538527 0 rjka 4 1538511 And the candy bar formerly known as Forever Yours is now Milky Way Dark. Thu Nov 09 22:55:25 -0800 2000 1537804 0 Bilmo 2 1537796 Though the concept lives on, the originator of the deep-fried Mars Bar shut its doors in March. (Ah, the things one learns when doing research about strange cooking techniques.) Link: http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/notquitenews/story/0,6575,233738,00.html Tue Sep 26 22:41:43 -0700 2000 1537783 0 Steven Stern 1 1537791 I've had fried oreos at festivals here in NJ. I love them. The come out of the fryer with the look and texture of a zeppole. The cookie inside is disintegrated into the dough -- all crumbley and melty. I always ask them to go easy on the powdered suger topping. Tue Sep 26 21:30:38 -0700 2000 1537778 0 Val G 1 1538496 I tried the Fried Oreo. It was good to excellent. The key is to make sure that you get them when they are hot and not too much of the powdered sugar. I also think they would be best with the minimal amount of dough necessary to cover the cookie. Next time you see them, get a hot one and try it. Thu Nov 09 12:37:43 -0800 2000 1537778 0 Michael 1 1538615 Against my better judgement, I ordered one of these deep fried oreos at Riverfest, Jazz Festival in Red Bank, New Jersey this Summer. First, let me say that it was "...nothing to write home about." It was mildly greasy, and the cookie portion was anything but crisp -- certainly not worth the price -- certainly not worth the calories consumed. Instead, try the Slouvaki or gyros. If you have a sweettooth, go for the mango italian ice! Thu Nov 16 11:05:50 -0800 2000 1537778 0 Audrey