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  <id>285621</id>
  <title>Need small indoor charcoal grill.</title>
  <published_at>Sat Jun 03 16:21:55 -0700 2006</published_at>
  <post_count>17</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>41</id>
    <name>Cookware</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1529881</id>
        <content>I am looking for a small basic charcoal grill to use on my stovetop.  Picture a big coffee can (big grocery store style), with a small grate on it.  I just want to be able to grill things easily indoors.Little chicken on skewers and things like that.  I want the nice chargrilled flavor but don't have room outside for whole barbeque set-up.  Thanks in advance....Pepper</content>
        <published_at>Sat Jun 03 16:21:55 -0700 2006</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Pepper</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1529882</id>
      <content>I've never heard of anyone using charcoal indoors. I think it would be a very bad idea.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 03 16:28:52 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Bobfrmia</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1529883</id>
      <content>Having just checked my Kingsford bag, it says "Using charcoal indoors can kill you. Charcoal gives off carbon monoxide."
Like I thought, bad idea.
</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 03 16:31:41 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529882</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Bobfrmia</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1529885</id>
      <content>So much for indoor Kushiyaki!  Thanks...I found a small charcoal grill that will fit on my balcony...outside. Believe it or not, I have had worse ideas! ;) Thanks.  Pepper</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 03 16:46:38 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529883</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Pepper</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1529892</id>
      <content>I can see where you got that idea. I once had a little grill similar to what you have mentioned.  It took a sterno can and you basically cooked the food beforehand and finished it on the 'grill'. From the looks of it it looked like you could use it with a single briquet of charcoal but obviously no. I'd check some Japanese import stores. They might have electric or gas table top grills like you are looking for. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 03 17:31:40 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Tracy L.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1529929</id>
      <content>Yep, people do die every year trying to use (usually for heat) charcoal grills indoors. BUT there is an alternative: stovetop grill pans! They are these heavy  pans with ridges inside--you get them very, very hot, then drop on your chicken or asparagus or whatnot, and you'll get lovely grill marks and a grill-ish flavor, with no messy briquettes or CO2. try one! Only key is to make sure pan is VERY hot (as in heat empty over a medium flame for at least 5 minutes) before you put in the food. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 03 22:36:30 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>dixieday</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1529973</id>
      <content>the only problem with those griddles are that every time you use them your ceiling needs repainting.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 04 13:20:54 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529929</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>byrd</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1529946</id>
      <content>Make sure you check on fire regulations when using a grill on a balcony. Many years ago when I was a teen and had just got my first apartment I had a small hibachi on my balcony. A neighbor saw the smoke from the grill and called the fire dept. I got a $500 fine.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 04 07:26:16 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>biltong</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1529960</id>
      <content>Nice neighbor. I hope you didn't share.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 04 10:50:22 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529946</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>chileheadmike</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1529971</id>
      <content>I also watched the fire department put out a fire that started on an apartment balcony - caused by a small grill.  It damaged that unit and the one above it.
 
paulj
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      <published_at>Sun Jun 04 13:13:38 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529946</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>paulj</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1530066</id>
      <content>One word of warning about small charcoal grills.  If it has metal or aluminum legs that are attached to the main body of the grill, the legs can get VERY HOT while in use.  Never use it on a resin table and be very careful if you are using it on a wooden surface.  If your balcony is made of wood, it would be wise to place something fireproof underneath.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 05 03:01:22 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529885</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Marco</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1529887</id>
      <content>Just to reemphasize for future readers: a fatal idea. Worse even than trying to use your gas oven to heat your house during the winter....</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jun 03 16:56:51 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Karl S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1529941</id>
      <content>Rite-Aid sells these one-time use charcoal grill. It's simply aluminum pan with a few charcoal in them and a grate on top. I think I paid $3.99 for it. It's great for little balconies where a bbq setup is not possible. Again, do not use charcoal indoors. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 04 02:49:05 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>theSauce</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1529981</id>
      <content>Carbon monoxide is never your friend, it's very toxic. Do Not put a charcoal grill in your kitchen unless suicide, and possibly taking close relatives with you is the objective. Otherwise, get one of those Lodge Logic heavy cast iron flippable combo grill-griddle things. Mine was $35 in a kitchen out let - it covers 2 burners. You will get a nice char and grill marks, but sorry, no pronounced charcoal flavor or "smoky" flavor. You see them using them on food network all the time.
 
You don't say why you don't want to grill outside. Lately, I've developed a plan to put a hibachi out on my apartment's back landing where it's in the open air. I've been craving BBQ myself have never had a backyard - being a confirmed city person. So, I can tell you I've put a lot of thought into this very question lately. How to BBQ without killing myself or anybody in my building, or having to call the Fire department? Here's what I think: Hibachi on a cookie sheet, outside your back door on a level surface, at least 3 feet away from anything remotemly flammable, no children or pets anywhere near, fire extinguisher that you've practised with at the ready. I got one from QVC.COM that all you have to do is aim and shoot - no removing pins on a chain - idiot proof. Really, BBQ aside, EVERYONE needs an easy to use fire extinguisher right near their stove at all times anyway.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 04 14:17:47 -0700 2006</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Niki Rothman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>2962444</id>
      <content>Unless you plan on cooking in your fireplace, indoor hibachis are a bad idea.

http://www.firepit-and-grilling-guru.com/fireplace-grill.html</content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 21 06:44:23 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12359</id>
        <name>monkeyrotica</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3015133</id>
      <content>I know it's been over a year, but have you ever tried looking up Japanese "shichirin"? For cooking, it uses "sumi", a natural hardwood charcoal.  In Japan I went to a couple of restaurants where you kind of did your own cooking of small items on tabletop shichirin.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 08 12:22:43 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>133120</id>
        <name>fishspeaker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3016706</id>
      <content>Very dangerous.  The carbon monoxide can kill you.  Don't even think about it.
As a matter of fact, you are not even supposed to grill anywhere with a covered top, such as in the garage with the door open when it is raining, for the same reason.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 08 20:34:21 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>87837</id>
        <name>RGC1982</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3023914</id>
      <content>Hello, again! I just remembered that the shichirin I posted earlier is more of a portable stove, but still has a grill that would work just as well.  What would really work for your needs is a "hida" grill, specifically made for tabletop cooking and I last saw one being used in pubic on Iron Chef America by Iron Chef Morimoto.  A small hida grill can cost about $15-40. Also seen as a shabu-shabu/hibachi grill:
http://www.mrslinskitchen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&amp;ProdID=18796
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Oct 10 21:53:56 -0700 2007</published_at>
      <parent_id>1529881</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>133120</id>
        <name>fishspeaker</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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