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jeffro May 17, 2006 03:31 PM

Anybody have a quality and authentic Carnitas recipe. I have read many conflicting methods and I've found myself confused.

I am willing to go long and strong. I do not fear pork.

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    paulj RE: jeffro May 17, 2006 08:33 PM

    The most authentic method is to 'simmer' the pork chunks in lard.

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      Christine RE: paulj May 17, 2006 10:46 PM

      The best carnitas I've ever had are found in Tijuana in a restaurant called Carnitas Uruapan (Boulevard Agua Caliente No. 12650) across from the race track. They have a huge copper cauldron of simmering lard in the parking lot and throw the pork shoulders in whole.

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        adamclyde RE: Christine May 18, 2006 08:39 AM

        I have to agree - lard is the way to go.

        Here's what I do.

        Pork Shoulder
        Lard
        Orange Peel
        Salt

        Cut the pork shoulder (as much big as you like) into very large chunks. In a big pot, melt enough lard to just cover the chunks. Add in the peel of one orange. Simmer the pork slowly in the lard for an 90 minutes. The pork should not brown during this time. If it starts to, turn down the heat. after 90 minutes, turn up the heat to medium high. Watch closely. When the pork has browned nicely, remove from the lard (will probably be around 15 minutes more) and set it on paper towells or newspaper or whatever. Give it a shake of salt. The pork will break up easily. You can either just break it up with your hands or chop it into large chunks.

        foolproof and so amazingly good.

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          Funwithfood RE: adamclyde May 18, 2006 11:04 AM

          Is lard found at Mexican markets?

          Also, orange peel...a surprising ingredient. Is it "authentic", or your touch...

          (By the way, I add orange peel to my turkey brine--fabulous.)

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            adamclyde RE: Funwithfood May 18, 2006 02:17 PM

            I actually learned the orange peel from my sister in law's mother, who grew up in mexico. I've since seen it rather frequently in various recipes and at good carnitas places. So, not sure if everyone does it, but it certainly has some credence back in the "homeland." It gives it a subtle flavor and color boost as well.

            Yes, you can always find lard (manteca) at mexican groceries. It's usually in a tub behind the meats.

            Good luck!

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              adamclyde RE: adamclyde May 18, 2006 04:20 PM

              just found this recipe, which at the end explains why the addition of orange is important (they use orange slices, not just peel). Thought you'd enjoy...

              Link: http://recipes.epicurean.com/recipe/2...

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                Funwithfood RE: adamclyde May 18, 2006 06:38 PM

                Cool, thanks!

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            Jupiter RE: adamclyde May 18, 2006 05:59 PM

            ok, i'm game, i want to try it, but i have a few reservations and they are as follows:
            -simmering in lard, does it totally stink up the joint? will my house smell like lard for days after?
            -how do i dispose of three pounds of lard (as the other recipe calls for)? will it harden back up when it cools? do i just throw it away after that? can i re-use it for something else?
            -do i cover the pot while it is simmering or leave it uncovered? (if i leave it uncovered, can i put a spatter screen over it so i don't get that fine film of grease everyhwere?

            Thanks!

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              JalamaMama RE: Jupiter May 18, 2006 07:16 PM

              I have seen this method done only in large batches- outside on top of a propane burner...I don't think I'd do it inside- but we have alot of GREAT carnitas locally. You can strain the lard while liquid- I don't know what one could cook in it with out pork flavor. The lard will solidify. You could scrape the lard back into the tub it came in. If you were a really neat person- you could make suet cakes with it!!

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                JockY RE: JalamaMama Jan 23, 2008 03:25 PM

                Suet Cakes??? Tell me more. Please

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                  danhole RE: JockY Jan 24, 2008 08:15 AM

                  Suet cakes are for the outside creatures to eat in the winter time. You take a slab of lard and press seeds into it, put it outside and they eat it. You can even buy suet cakes. The lard gives them some kind of benefit to keep warm - not sure of the science of it.

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                    JockY RE: danhole Jan 24, 2008 08:36 PM

                    Too bad. I was thinking it might be like the suet dumplings my mother used to put in stews when I was a kid.

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                      HaagenDazs RE: danhole Jan 29, 2008 03:55 AM

                      I melt the lard then pour it into a pyrex dish and then pour bird seed (only black oil sunflower seed - those other kinds of seed are just filler) and set it out. This method ensures seed throughout. The warmth comes from just having enough calories to burn to keep the little birds warm.

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                  Christine RE: Jupiter May 18, 2006 07:19 PM

                  Smelly kitchen? Yeah, there's that probability. I don't have a hood so I deep fry outside using my electric fryer.

                  Dispose? Like bacon grease, you should be able to strain and refrigerate for later use. For frying more pork. If this sounds inconvenient, cool, wrap and throw it away.

                  Cover it? It'll spatter mostly right when you put the meat in. Be careful. After that, you're pretty safe.

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                    toodie jane RE: Jupiter Jan 24, 2008 03:39 PM

                    Pork cooked in pure lard (no preservatives) smells heavenly. Yes, it will scent the house for a few days, but it's neither strong nor disagreeable. Heaven.

                    I've started to save the drained fat from the pork shoulder roasts I do in the dutch oven. A wee bit adds so much to refired beans and other dishes.

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                  johnnyv7 RE: Christine Apr 15, 2010 04:05 PM

                  I know exactly where that place is at, I have ben going there since I was a kid. I agree they have the best carnitas ever. I do have my own verson of a recipe, that I learned at a very high end restaurant that won me over as well.
                  1 whole pork shoulder
                  1 Tsp coriander seeds
                  1 Tsp cumin seeds
                  1 Tsp black pepper corns
                  1 large orange sliced in rounds
                  8 whole garlic cloves
                  2 bay leaf

                  Place the pork shoulder in a roasting pan fill pan until the pork is fully sumerged in vegetable oil. Add the rest of the ingredients, cover with foil. Place in a preheated oven around 275 degrees for about 3 hours. Shred with a fork, serve with warm tortillas and tomatillo salsa...yum

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                JalamaMama RE: jeffro May 18, 2006 07:10 PM

                I find Farmer Johns lard under the tortilla shelf/end of isle in the store. Or you can check the bottom shelf near the olive/canola oils- or the baking section maybe?

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                  sel RE: JalamaMama Jan 24, 2008 12:46 PM

                  I would strongly advise anyone making carnitas or any other Mexican dish that requires lard to, if at all possible, avoid the Farmer John's product or any other brand of the foul tasting, hydrogenated/preserved white bricks. If available go to a Mexican market/carniceria and buy freshly made lard. It's not expensive, usually tan in color and often comes in those round plastic containers with a snap on lid. Compared to the white bricks, the flavor is wonderful, trust me!

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                    Harry Niletti RE: sel Sep 24, 2010 07:21 PM

                    Those same stores as well as supermarket chains like Food 4 Less in Latino neighborhoods also usually carry pork fat that you can chop and render for lard yourself. The advantage is that you know exactly what you're getting, and after you strain the final product you'll have delicious cracklings for tossing into beans, soups, cornbread batter, etc.

                    -Harry

                2. EricShawnSmith RE: jeffro Jan 23, 2008 09:44 AM

                  Let me just say you don't need to cook up 6 lbs of carnitas at a time. You can use 2 lbs of pork shoulder steak and the results will be just as good. Using only a cup or so of lard. This is my mothers recipe which was her fathers before her. He was born and raised in mexico.

                  Season cubed pork with salt, pepper, cumino and mexican oregano.
                  Add seasoned pork to rendered lard along with finely diced onion, 3 cloves finely minced garlic, 1 orange sliced and a bunch of chopped cilantro.
                  Simmer over medium low heat for 1 hour in a covered dutch oven.
                  After 1 hour remove cover and raise heat and cook until pork has become crispy.

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                    gogogypsy RE: EricShawnSmith Jun 8, 2008 07:38 PM

                    oh great googleemooglee....THANK YOU ERIC for the most authentic recipe....we made this today and were transported back to mexico....we have been searching for a good recipe for a long time

                    and thanks to SEL also for suggesting we purchase fresh lard at a mexican market...it was only $1 for a huge tub

                    PERFECT!!!

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                    don515 RE: jeffro Jan 23, 2008 10:16 AM

                    Cant find it on the web but Bon Appitte did a great issue on Mexican food. For Carnitas they used fatty country style ribs with simmered in water with some other stuff orange peel and brandy for sure. Anywho cooks unconvered for a while then finishes cover off till water is gone. Rendered fax get the pork crispy. I'll look again for a link

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                      JockY RE: don515 Jan 23, 2008 03:27 PM

                      I don't think it is on the Epicurious site. I've looked a few times. Luckily I have the March 2003 issue it was printed in. I'll post the ingredients later when I find it.

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                        foxy fairy RE: JockY Jan 23, 2008 04:47 PM

                        thanks - I have searched for it there too to no avail. :) Looking forward to it!

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                          FlyerFan RE: foxy fairy Jan 23, 2008 05:14 PM

                          Darned if I can find it anywhere but I swear the recipe came from epicurious.

                          It consisted of simmering a pork shoulder in water with garlic, oregano, orange juice and some other spices for several hours. Once the pork is soft and the water has evaporated, fry the remaining chunks in its own remaining fat to crisp. Incredible stuff....I've only made it once but I need to find the recipe again!

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                            JockY RE: FlyerFan Jan 23, 2008 08:55 PM

                            This is for 4# of pork country style ribs or shoulder cut into 2 or 3 inch chunks:

                            add 2 cups water, 1 1/2 cups OJ, zest from an orange, 1 tsp sea salt and 6 cloves of garlic to the meat in a large pot. Bring to a boil, reduce the heat, cover and simmer for about 2 hours. Remove the cover and boil another 15 minutes or so. Add 1/4 cup of brandy and cook till the liquid has evaporated. The pork will start to crisp up as it frys in its own fat.

                            I usually do this in a 12" stainless steel chicken fryer and finish it in a non stick saute pan where the pork won't stick and burn.

                            BTW, I was mistaken - this was in the May 2003 issue and not the March issue.

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                              Candice RE: JockY Jan 23, 2008 09:11 PM

                              Here's a link, it turns out great every time! I add cumin, a splash of oj, and some jalapeƱos or chiles to the simmering liquid. If it doesn't reduce as fast as I want it to, I pour off some of the liquid. Also, I often use Boston Butt, pork shoulder, or other similar cuts if they are on sale. The time that it takes for the meat to become tender is usually longer than the recipe states.

                              http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...

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                                JockY RE: Candice Jan 23, 2008 09:22 PM

                                That's the one Candice. It never showed up when I did a recipe search???

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                                  Candice RE: JockY Jan 24, 2008 01:25 PM

                                  I have it book marked now because it's listed under "Crispy Pork" and in my mind I'm always thinking carnitas. Great recipe though!

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                                    JockY RE: Candice Jan 24, 2008 08:34 PM

                                    No kidding. It's one of my all time favorites.

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                                  dexters RE: Candice Jan 17, 2009 05:33 AM

                                  Just wanted to add that this recipe is indeed fabulous. I have made it several times with excellent results.
                                  I was just looking for it a few minutes ago on Epicurious and couldn't find it either!
                                  Bookmarking so I don't lose it again.

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                                danhole RE: FlyerFan Jan 24, 2008 08:22 AM

                                Your recipe may be in this thread from last summer. Let me know if it is.
                                http://www.chowhound.com/topics/285926

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                                  toodie jane RE: FlyerFan Jan 24, 2008 03:42 PM

                                  ....sounds like you've got it to me. Not rocket science, go for it!

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                                    crafteeidea RE: FlyerFan Jun 12, 2010 04:24 PM

                                    This month's CoTM, Gourmet Today, has what looks liked a great recipe for Carnitas on page 469. It calls for marinading the pork in fresh orange zest and juice and other spices and cooking the pork in lard, water and milk. It is one of the recipes I am going to try this month.

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                                      bear RE: crafteeidea Jun 13, 2010 05:43 AM

                                      Please report back. Sounds delicious!

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                                    paulj RE: foxy fairy Jan 24, 2008 08:52 AM

                                    This is really more a matter of technique than ingredients. In fact you don't want many non-meat solids and flavorings left in the pot at the end when you are crisping the meat. They will just burn.
                                    paulj

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                                      2samba RE: foxy fairy Jun 11, 2008 09:08 AM

                                      I typed in "authentic cartinas recipe" and epicuriouses recipe came up.

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                                      natbug RE: JockY Feb 4, 2009 07:39 PM

                                      Epicurious calls it "Little Meats" maybe that's why you couldn't find it.

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                                    don515 RE: jeffro Jan 26, 2008 03:22 PM

                                    Thanks Jocky Candice and Flyer Fan
                                    for doing my follow up! It sucks when you cant find "that" recipe. In that same issue the salsa and Guacamole go perfect with Carnitas and the snapper vera cruz is great (also healthy) best part is make extra sauce and freeze so you are good to go the next time!

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                                      souvenir RE: don515 Jan 28, 2008 08:34 PM

                                      I'm so glad you asked and the links were found (thanks to all of you!). I tried the recipe tonight and it definitely is a keeper.

                                      I read through all the comments and the only changes I made to it tonight were to add a bit of cumin, and I cooked proportionally with two pounds of boneless pork shoulder ribs rather than four. Next time, I'll add even more cumin, cut the amount of orange juice in order to add some lime juice to the liquid, and perhaps add some medium intensity chilis.

                                      Overall, it was super simple with great flavor!

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                                      grant.cook RE: jeffro Jun 11, 2008 09:30 AM

                                      I used the Cooks Illustrated recipe - it involved the butt with a bit of the fat cap left (both not a ton), orange peel, as the other recipes here, and a long braise. I didn't use lard, but I suspect if you can get fresh rendered lard, that's a nice option.

                                      Basically, after cooking and pulling the meat apart (getting rid of the fattier pieces), I reduced the braising liquid down a lot, then placed the meat on a broiler pan, basted it with the reduced liquid, and broiled it for a few minutes to get a bit of high-heat char.. the stuff got devoured.

                                      1. keith2000 RE: jeffro Jan 15, 2009 09:06 PM

                                        If you are a movie buff you might remember the scene in Robert Rodriguez's "Once Upon a Time in Mexico" where Johnny Depp's character kills a chef because his carnitas were so good he was upseting the natural balance of the world. The carnitas he made were called Pibil a dish from the Yucatan. The cool thing is that Robert has a video on youtube called "Robert Rodriguez's 10 minute cooking school" where he teaches you how to make carnitas pibil. It is definitly worth checking out and trying.

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                                          DougOLis RE: keith2000 Jan 16, 2009 02:53 PM

                                          That was actually cochinita pibil and not carnitas which are kind of similar but not the same thing. Cochinita is more acidic, uses on annato seeds, and is roasted/steamed in banana leaves while carnitas typically is braised in lard.

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                                          Soup RE: jeffro Jan 17, 2009 08:05 AM

                                          Have to admit that I am a novice on carnitas. Only places I've ever had them was at taquerias. The best carnitas burrito I've ever had was at taqueria La Bomba near SF (might have been closer to burlingame). Anyway this carnitas was very soft and crunchy at the same time. The flavor and texture were just amazing.

                                          When I ask the folks behind the counter they get it that will they apprently braise (don't know in what though) and then fry before chopping it up. Just out standing.

                                          Maybe someday great mexican food will be more available anywhere in the US.

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                                            jaykayen RE: Soup Feb 4, 2009 08:19 PM

                                            I'm pretty sure it's braised in it's own fat. Not totally covered in fat, like confit, though.

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                                            bear RE: jeffro Feb 22, 2009 04:48 PM

                                            I just finished making JungMann's carnitas recipe,and it was really good. I pretty much followed the recipe to a T, except I added half an orange cut into a couple of pieces, and some cayenne and crushed red pepper flakes. The orange flavor was perfect, and the salt and acid really came through. The recipe is near the very end of this thread:

                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/592817

                                            Thanks so much, JungMann! Hope you're reading this. It's a keeper, and I have lots of leftovers for the next few days. That's my carnitas recipe from now on.

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                                              Whimzerd RE: bear May 26, 2009 10:29 AM

                                              Does anyone know any carnitas recipes that use more "exotic" spices or chilies? i know the beauty of carnitas' simplicity but i still have an urge to get my foodie on and throw in some guajillos or anchos or annato seed or something.

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                                                gordeaux RE: Whimzerd May 26, 2009 11:06 AM

                                                You might want to look into "cochinita pibil" which is slow roasted pork, generally with a rub contaning a good amt of annato.
                                                If you still want to make carnitas using different chiles and annato, then rub down a shoulder before you fry it up.

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                                                  danhole RE: Whimzerd May 26, 2009 11:06 AM

                                                  Whimzerd,

                                                  If you look upthread there are a few more exotic touches to the simple recipe. Look for EricShawn . . . especially and there are others that add peppers, garlic and other ingredients.

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                                                    paulj RE: Whimzerd May 26, 2009 11:43 AM

                                                    In the 'boil and fry' method, you don't want too much extra stuff that will form a sauce and burn as you cook it dry. I haven't done the 'simmer in lard' method, but I'm not sure you want a lot extra, burnable items there either.

                                                    However, I just made a Malaysian beef dish, Rendang, which cooks the meat in a coconut milk sauce with a spice paste (onions, garlic, ginger, lemongrass, etc), and lets it cook till dry. I put link to this on the 'day old curry' thread. I used a packet of Thai curry seasoning in mine, so it had a fair bite.

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                                                    JungMann RE: bear May 26, 2009 12:37 PM

                                                    Bear, glad to hear you enjoyed my carnitas recipe. Thanks bringing the dish back onto my radar as summer picnic season rolls around!

                                                    Whimzerd, I think that anchos might be a little bit of overkill with the smokiness of the cumin in your seasoning, but I could certainly see some guajillos playing off the floral tastes of the coriander in my recipe.

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                                                      Perilagu Khan RE: JungMann Jun 13, 2010 02:03 PM

                                                      For those of you who have tried both the lard and the boil-in-water versions of carnitas, how different is the final product and do prefer one to the other by a wide margin?

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                                                    cubancigar2000 RE: jeffro Jan 31, 2011 03:25 AM

                                                    2 tsps chili powder, 2tsps kpsher salt, 2 tsps garlic pwder, 2 tsps cumin seed roasted then ground. Mis all together and set aside. 4 lbs pork butt or roast ( not to lean) cut into 1' cubes and toss into spices and coat well making sure to use all the spices. Put some lard in a dutch oven and brown the meat a little at a time. Pour 1 cup OJ in the Dutch Oven and deglaze it, now put all meat in and cover with water ( do not rinse out the goodies, use the OJ and spice mix) bring to a simmer and put in oven for two hours or longer until tender. Remove meat ( save the broth) and when cool, shred it and place on a pan under the broiler to crsip it a little. Now you are ready to make some wonderful tacos or tostado's or burrittos or???. The broth will come in handy to bring the meat back to life after it dries out so save it. Do not use cumin powder and be sure to use lard

                                                    1. KatoK RE: jeffro Jan 31, 2011 09:16 AM

                                                      I know this is an old post, but what the heck, it's always a good time for carnitas.
                                                      I got this recipe a number of years ago and it is delicious if not entirely authentic. It also has the additional benefit of being a bit more health conscious. I adapted the recipe by using a half water, half chicken broth mixture for the simmering and uping the salt somewhat. Finishing in the oven with milk satisfies the crunchy texture cravings. Have a go!

                                                      http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/rec...

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                                                        sunshine842 RE: KatoK Jan 31, 2011 12:44 PM

                                                        this one tastes like the carnitas at Chipotle -- and it's pretty darned tasty. I make it in the slow cooker:

                                                        http://recipes.epicurean.com/mobile/2...

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                                                          Hollenhund RE: sunshine842 Jun 6, 2011 08:51 PM

                                                          All of these recipes are amazing!

                                                          Also, I have found that this recipe is delicious!
                                                          http://alaskacooks.com/2006/06/14/car...

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