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Yankee Feb 10, 2006 02:08 PM

What's the difference between Jambalaya and Gumbo?

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    rudeboy RE: Yankee Feb 10, 2006 02:26 PM

    Jambalaya is more like paella, in a way - primarily a rice dish.

    Gumbo is usually a roux-thickened stew, typically containing either poulty and sausage or seafood, although there are many variations.

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      Hungry Celeste RE: rudeboy Feb 12, 2006 07:55 AM

      Yeah, what he said. Gumbo=soup, and jambalaya=paella/pilaf/biryani (in spirit, not in flavor). And in defense of my native cuisine, neither is hard to make or takes all day. Gumbo's no more difficult than jambalaya. If you really want to know about cooking either one, repost or email me directly. I happen to have killer chicken gumbo defrosting in the fridge right now, in celebration of "winter" weather (45 degrees).

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        LaShanta RE: Hungry Celeste Dec 10, 2008 02:03 PM

        I am VERY interested in making jambalaya. Please, please share......

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          bnemes3343 RE: LaShanta Dec 11, 2008 07:37 AM

          www.americastestkitchen.com and do a search on Jambalaya. They have a killer recipe with andouille, chicken and shrimp. I made it last year for a Mardi Gras party and it was a huge hit. Not difficult either.

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            LaShanta RE: bnemes3343 Dec 11, 2008 12:00 PM

            Thanks so much. Unfortunately, America's Test Kitchen makes you pay for their recipes. :-( Is there any other way that I can get the recipe?

            It's a shame because I really did want to make mine with all 3 of those "meats" (chichen, shrimp, sausage). I would LOVE that one!

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              LaShanta RE: bnemes3343 Dec 11, 2008 12:04 PM

              I found it!!! (the internet really IS a wonderful thing!!) It was posted at cooking.com (with permission, I might add). Here is the link if anyone else wants the recipe. http://www.cooking.com/Recipes-and-Mo...

              Thanks bnemes3343 for the tip!!

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              ChiliDude RE: LaShanta Feb 6, 2013 11:50 AM

              If you are interest in Louisiana cooking, find a copy of Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Ktchen. My copy was published in 1984. There are 4 jambalaya recipes in the book. The book has 7 gumbo recipes.

              Amazon still carries the book if your local library does not have a copy.

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                shallots RE: ChiliDude Feb 6, 2013 01:43 PM

                Prudhomme's Chicken Andouille Gumbo in that book is so much better than any other iterations. It has layers of flavor and HAD layers of flavor long before the foodchannel took over those words.

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                  travelerjjm RE: shallots Feb 6, 2013 01:53 PM

                  The one shallots mentions is virtually identical to the recipe I use, so I suspect it is indeed wonderful.

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                  Jeanne RE: ChiliDude Feb 6, 2013 09:27 PM

                  I have had this cookbook for years! Great recipes. Takes a little longer BUT he's making them right. Well worth it!

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            Hoyt Pollard RE: Yankee Feb 10, 2006 02:58 PM

            Okra (gumbo has it, jambalaya does not).

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              Aaron RE: Hoyt Pollard Feb 10, 2006 03:41 PM

              Plenty of gumbos don't have okra. The main distinction is that jambalaya is a rice centered dish. There are many varieties (seafood, meat, etc.) but the original jambalaya always started with ham. That's where it got its name, from the french jambon or ham. Gumbo is a stew, often served with or on rice, but not necessarily like jambalaya. All gumbos regardless of variety, start with a roux, and often have another thickening agent such as file powder or sometimes, okra.

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                Becca Porter RE: Aaron Feb 10, 2006 07:11 PM

                Actually quite a few okra gumbos are roux-less. They are completely thickened by okra.

                Jambalaya usually uses tomatoes, tasso, and is a rice dish.

                Totally different flavors.
                -Becca

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                  YourPalWill RE: Aaron Feb 11, 2006 08:53 AM

                  Bingo. This poster has hit the nail on the head. From a cook's perspective, Gumbo is a dish that takes all day to prepare. Lots of long slow cooking and attention to getting the roux right. Gumbo is served lika any soup or stew with a spoonful of rice

                  Jambalaya requires a base of seafood and/or meats,trinity,tomato (for some folks), stock and rice. It can be put together in a couple of hours and ready to eat.The primary component of jambalaya is rice. It has more the consistency of risotto.

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                    travelerjjm RE: YourPalWill Feb 6, 2013 09:11 AM

                    I have made gumbo many times. It has never taken all day (or even half a day) and the roux is easy to get right -- you cook flour and oil slowly until it is very dark but not quite black. I use an enameled cast iron pan and it takes only about the time to drink 1-2 beers.I use the recipe from chef François le Vision.Gumbo is basically meat or seafood (often chicken or shrimp), Andouille sausage, trinity, roux and stock. Some people add Okra. Some people use a light roux, I use a "black roux". There are lots of variations.
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                    If you make chicken gumbo the longest time is to cook the chicken and then let it cool so you can shred it.

                    Here is a good article on the history of gumbo http://www.southerngumbotrail.com/his...

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                ChiliDude RE: Yankee Feb 11, 2006 08:00 AM

                Go for the jambalaya...it's so much fun to make. Living in the Northeast, andouille is not easy to come by at the local supermarkets. Kielbasa is a good substitute.

                I do the NYTimes Sunday crossword puzzle. When a clue refers to gumbo, the answer is usually OKRA.

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                  Davwud RE: ChiliDude Feb 7, 2009 06:29 PM

                  I've found that kielbasa with some cajun seasoning added when it's sauteed is perfect.

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                    theengulfer RE: ChiliDude Feb 6, 2013 07:27 AM

                    Go to any Wegmans, which are all over the Northeast, and they will have Andouille sausage, even their own brand which is really good.

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                      chefj RE: ChiliDude Feb 6, 2013 10:56 AM

                      I find that Linguiça, which is pretty available in N.E., is a better substitute for Andouille since it has the coarser texture and more seasoning than most Kielbasas

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                      Jess RE: Yankee Feb 11, 2006 10:51 AM

                      Here's a good roundup of Louisiana recipes. You'll notice jambalaya (under poultry dishes) is either red (with tomatoes) or brown (without). It's a fairly dry rice dish, no extra sauce is pooling in the bottom. Gumbo is soup, and has roux, okra, or both, with or without file. I've had very thick and very thin gumbos. Usually served with rice, occasionally with a scoop of potato salad. In my limited experience, seafood gumbo is usually okra based, while chicken or duck and andouille is roux based. If you can find Hungry Celeste on the New Orleans board, she's the resident expert on gumbo and all things cajun.

                      Link: http://www.gumbopages.com/recipe-page...

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                        dcandohio RE: Jess Dec 11, 2008 07:08 AM

                        I have a very easy "jambalaya" recipe that starts with CONVERTED (not instant) rice. OK, so sue me, it's not completely authentic, but I grew up in New Orleans and I know lots of happy moms and grannys who use this instead of the "real deal" when things are hectic. I can't remember exactly, but these are the basics. This might have originated with the Campbell's soup folks, or the Uncle Ben's rice folks...I've never seen a real, printed recipe - but I watched my Mom do this dozens of time. She claimed "Aunt Toni" invented it...which I doubt.

                        1 1lb box of converted white rice (we ALWAYS use Uncle Ben's) UNCOOKED
                        1 can of beef broth (feel free to substitute homemade or the equivalent amount of the nicer stuff from the asceptic packages)
                        1 can of Campbell's french onion soup (don't laugh - this is the flavor base)
                        About 1/2 can of the Ro-tel diced tomatoes (drain some of the juice)
                        A cup or so of diced green onion
                        A pound of sausage, sliced or diced (andouille - but any good, smoky sausage that you can find will work)
                        A stick of butter (note: I use a few tablespoons of butter and about a 1/4 cup of olive oil and it's just fine).
                        a big palm full of dried parsley (maybe 1/4 cup?)
                        Garlic or garlic powder - lots if you like it, less if you don't

                        Mix this entire mess in a large, heavy, oven-proof container (I use my soup pot) that has a good lid. Put in a 375 oven for a good long while (at least one hour) until all the liquid is absorbed, the rice is completely cooked and you are ready to eat. Note that if you have to wait, this will hold in a warm oven (200?) for at least one hour with no harm at all.

                        It feeds 8 people. Don't tell anyone how you made this, because people will rave about it.

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                        1stmakearoux RE: Yankee Dec 11, 2008 07:30 AM

                        Jambalaya comes from the French and African dialects. "Jambon" is French for ham, "a la" means "with", and "Ya" is the African word for rice. So basically, jambalaya is ham with rice.

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                          1stmakearoux RE: Yankee Dec 11, 2008 07:31 AM

                          "Gumbo" is the African word for okra.

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                            GutGrease RE: 1stmakearoux Dec 11, 2008 08:42 AM

                            ...and Jambalya & Gumbo are English synonyms for delicious

                          2. Perilagu Khan RE: Yankee Feb 6, 2013 02:16 PM

                            I'd say jambalaya and etouffee are more similar than jambalaya and gumbo.

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                              Veggo RE: Perilagu Khan Feb 6, 2013 02:27 PM

                              In my experience, jambalaya and etouffee are made with rice and are eaten with a fork, whereas roux-based gumbo is soupier and served over rice in a bowl and most often eaten with a spoon.

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                                chefj RE: Veggo Feb 6, 2013 03:10 PM

                                Étouffée is also roux based like some Gumbos, and is served with rice like Gumbo (though with a larger quantity of rice) rather than Jambalaya in which every thing is cooked with the rice.

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                                travelerjjm RE: Perilagu Khan Feb 6, 2013 02:33 PM

                                I agree. I love all three.

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                                  Veggo RE: travelerjjm Feb 6, 2013 02:40 PM

                                  Yes, 3 distinctly different and delicious dishes, none of which I can find on the Florida Gulf coast....

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                                    Perilagu Khan RE: Veggo Feb 6, 2013 03:08 PM

                                    That's hard to fathom. I have no trouble finding servicable examples of all three here in the desolate wilderness of west Tejas.

                              3. Hank Hanover RE: Yankee Feb 6, 2013 09:23 PM

                                The biggest difference is time and work. You can do a rice pilaf like jambalaya in 30 - 40 minutes.

                                A soup/stew like gumbo will take a couple of hours. It will take 45 minutes just to make the chocolate roux!

                                if you like Cajun food, you need to be able to make both. They are both incredible. A good red beans and rice recipe wouldn't hurt, either.

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                                  Redstickchef RE: Yankee Feb 8, 2013 06:43 AM

                                  As some of the other posters have noted gumbo is more of a soup while jambalaya is more of a rice dish. I have been using Alton Brown's gumbo recipe on foodnetwork to rave reviews over the past couple of months for special occasions and highly recommend it! I usually end up adding chicken, andouille and shrimp instead of just two that the recipe calls for. I also use premade shrimp stock instead of peeling off and boiling the shrimp skins. Here in Louisiana they have premade roux that you can purchase too but if you have the time I would definitely make it from scratch!

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                                    paulj RE: Redstickchef Feb 8, 2013 12:37 PM

                                    Is there rice in gumbo, or is it just served with rice?

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                                      travelerjjm RE: paulj Feb 8, 2013 12:44 PM

                                      It is served over rice. I use a measuring cup packed with rice (or a small coffee cup), plop that in a wide bowl and cover with the gumbo, then I add a little chopped green onion for garnish and color (black roux and white rice contrast well, but the green adds nice color).

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                                        Davwud RE: travelerjjm Feb 14, 2013 03:41 PM

                                        Try a mixture of green onion and parsley next time. It's even better.

                                        DT

                                  2. mudcat RE: Yankee Feb 15, 2013 06:27 PM

                                    The rice in Jambalaya is cooked in the Jambalaya sauce you prepare augumented by enough shrimp stock to properly cook the rice. Gumbo is prepared seperately from the rice and served over the rice. Most do not make a roux for Jambalaya but do make a roux for Gumbo. It provides flavor as well as thickening. Personally, if the Gumbo does not contain okra it is not Gumbo with the exception of Gumbo Filet, a thin oyster, shrimp and chicken giblet soup thickened with powdered sassafras leaves. Gumbo Filet is usually served as a first course and is called just that, not, "Filet Gumbo" as Hank Williams popularized the term in his song "Jambalaya". "Jambalaya, Crawfish Pie, Filet Gumbo" does sound better than "Jambalaya, Crawfish Pie, Gumbo Filet."

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                                      coll RE: mudcat Feb 16, 2013 06:44 AM

                                      I call mine "Mighty Rad Gumbo" after the Little Feat song!

                                    2. mudcat RE: Yankee Feb 16, 2013 06:16 AM

                                      In my earlier response I misspelled "Filet", should be "File". Sorry.

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