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need particular advice on preparing a beef tenderloin

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So I'm hosting a dinner for 4 to which one guest is bringing a (to me) nice bordeaux, a 1996 Pichone Lalande, which is a Pauillac, and which will be prefaced by an Arneis and followed by a Valpolicella. Another guest volunteered to bring meat and has called saying the meat will be a whole (trimmed) beef tenderloin.

Now I've never roasted a tenderloin (or even make filet mignons). Almost always when I make beef I buy hanger steak and when I want to splurge I buy ribeye. The fact that I'd never buy a whole tenderloin myself makes me especially excited have one brought over. But I need advice on what to do with it.

The rubs:

1) one guest keeps kosher, such that I can't use any dairy product or pork or any non-kosher animal product (but it's fine to use my pans, which have rendered many a strip of bacon). The tenderloin is kosher, but I don't have time to buy any further kosher meat or stock. So the sauce for the tenderloin can't include butter, cream, meat stock of any sort, etc. This feels sort of limiting.

2) I've never cooked tenderloin before, and am scared of it coming out too dry.

One suggestion has been to cover the roast in mushroom duxelles, which would add flavor and keep the meat moist. Another idea I had was to drizzle over it a reduction of balsamic vinegar.

I'd welcome adivce of any sort for cooking or saucing this tenderloin. I'm planning to serve it with a potato galette (the pommes anna from Bistro Chez L'Ami Lois as reported by Calivin Trillin) while I'll fill with sauteed ramps, plus some baby vegetables blanced and simmered in veggie stock, and a salad of mixed baby lettuces and fiddleheads. For the Arneis I'm making an appetizer of pissaladiere (slow-caramelized onion tart [sometimes a pizza but I prefer a tart] with nicoise olives and anchovies).

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  1. The thing you need to worry about (or, be careful of) when preparing a whole beef tenderloin is to not overcook it, (or undercook it for that matter, because it needs to rest and the temp will rise after you remove it from the oven.) Do not cover it or smother it with sauce while cooking. That will steam it. The browned exterior is one of the joys of roast tenderloin.
    I wish I could give you exact advice. You seem like an experienced cook, or at least, diner. Rub that meat with kosher salt, pepper, and a pinch of sugar- and garlic if you like, about 30 mins before cooking. If you have the right equipment, sear the meat on 3 sides before you put it in a hot oven (I'd say 425 unless yours runs hot) for 30 mins or so. Less if it took more than a few moments to sear. In a restaurant convection oven they take about 22 mins for med rare. But home ovens are usually less hot. Squeeze it, probe it, or even nick it open to test because a well done tenderloin is a waste of a lot of money. If the stuff on the bottom of the pan seems like it's going to burn you can pour in a little water.
    Then you need to let it rest for at least 10 minutes before serving. You could deglaze the roasting pan with some kosher wine and flavor the jus with good quality balsamic. Too bad you couldn't whisk in some butter, too

    1. I agree with essentially everything Cleo has posted. I would use grapeseed oil. You can leave the meat longer than 30min, it won't dry out. You could also toss some onions and/or carrots in to the pan after the meat instead of the sugar, they will carmelize and add depth to the sauce. Don't use small pieces of garlic, they will burn and leave a bitterness.

      However, instead of relying on time or probing the meat to see if it is done, I would strongly, strongly suggest buying/using a 'constant read oven safe' thermometer/probe (for example see the URL). You just shove the probe into the center of the meat (tip in thick part) after browning three sides, stick it in the oven and wait for it to come to temp. and beep. I would pull it out at 125-128 and should drift up to 132-135 - perfectly cooked - as you make the sauce. I am a very experienced home cook and this thing changed my world. I would not even consider cooking a big 'ol chunk of meat without it. Never fails. Always perfect. Learn your temperatures, learn what you like, never worry.

      I also strongly suggest taking a look at the meat. If one end tapers off more than a little you need to fold/tuck it over itself to make it a bit thicker or it will overcook before the thicker parts cook (or, if somebody likes it more done than everybody else, leave it).

      Sounds like a great meal! And just because I am impossibly jealous - you should decant the Pichon. It is still youngish, but should be awesome. So jealous.

      Good luck!

      Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/...

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      1. re: Rotochicken

        Just one thing to add to this excellent post: I have a thermometer similar to this, and it lets you dial in beef, pork, veal, etc. and then "rare," "medium," etc. All of this cooking temps, to me, are too high, mainly because of the USDA min temp requirements. Consult a good cookbook that doesn't gloss over the subject of cooking temps.

        1. re: Rotochicken

          Right on advice, except I always take out my roasts at 120 and let them sit, for a tenderloin about 20 minutes.

          1. re: Rotochicken

            Thanks for the great advice. I borrowed just such a thermometer and am excited to use it!
            And I'll be sure to decant the wine.

          2. It is hard to get a kosher tenderloin because it needs a very high level of supervision to cut it because of all the veins. In fact many people think it is not a kosher cut. Someone is bringing you something rare.

            If you never worked with a tenderloin, don't be surprised if one side is pretty ragged, where many veins have removed. The first time I bought one it was untied and I had that terrible moment when I thought I had been cheated before I did some research.

            If it is whole you will need to tie one end so that it will cook evenly. (Unless of course you have several guests who like well done meat.)

            Make sure you decant the Comtesse and enjoy!

            1. It sounds delicous! One question, how will you make Potatoes Anna without butter (the no dairy with meat issue) or will the kosher person skip the potatoes?

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              1. re: gourmaniac

                I'm just going to have to try and do it with olive oil. Maybe I'll decrease the amount of fat, using the olive oil mostly to crisp the bottom later of potatoes, then add a little veggie stock for added moistness. Any advice?

              2. Most of the advice is sound, but if you are cooking for four, I would cut about 5 inches from the tail (to use later for beef stroganoff)and about 4 inches from the butt end. This should leave you with a chateaubriand, about 7-8 inches of relatively uniform thickness. Perfect for four diners. Many sauces are appropriate, and you can always serve your kosher guest unsauced slices. You will find the butt end (biftek in French) a bit gristley, and best trimmed. There is usually a chunk of gristle about 2 inches from the butt end. I usually trim it out and use the butt pieces as kabobs.

                1. Sounds like a great menu and you've already received very sound advice. One option for a well-flavored and succulent roast is to bake in a salt crust (see link). The egg white based crust really seals in the juices and protects the meat from drying out. It will harden and then you crack it open to unveil the roast. The crust itself is not eaten.

                  I've never cooked a roast this way but have baked whole fish using this method. Downside is that the exterior won't caramelize any more after the meat is browned, but the meat will be wonderfully seasoned and succulent. Kind of unusual and impressive looking for guests to see if they haven't seen it before. Good luck!

                  Link: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/rec...

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                  1. re: Carb Lover

                    I wouldn't do that. Here's why. Having just had a salt-crusted roast rejected by my editor because of her fears of the nutrition-police objecting to something that requires the use of 3 lbs. of salt, I retested the recipe for a roast but used a different method. It was so much more flavourful and even more tender.

                    I was using a notoriously not particularly tender cut: eye of round. You'd think the salt method would help retain moisture and tenderness. Not true. My second method was much better. Coated roast with mixture of Dijon mustard and garlic. Rolled in coarse salt, coarsely ground pepper and chopped fresh rosemary. Preheat oven to 500o. Put roast in oven and immediately turn heat down to 475 - roast 7 minutes per pound, then TURN OVEN OFF and leave the meat in the oven for 2-1/2 hours. DOn't open the door.

                    At the end of the time, it was done perfectly. I think if I were using this method for a tenderloin, I'd only cook it for 5 minutes per pound and leave it in the oven no longer than 2 hours. But otherwise, it would be perfect.

                    Don't use the salt method. It's cool and fun to do but you really lose that wondeful caramelization on the outside of the meat and that's a shame.

                    1. re: Nyleve

                      Are you saying that you actually tried the salt-encrusted first and it only turned out ok?

                      Your method sounds intriguing and sounds like it worked well for your cut, but I can't imagine roasting a tenderloin at 475F. Seems a bit high and that it would dry out, but I could be wrong.

                      The other downside to the salt-encrusted version that I didn't think about before is that you don't get any pan drippings for a sauce. Shame. Also the OP said no dairy, so I'm guessing the egg white in the crust (even if not eaten) conflicts w/ this.

                  2. Great ideas. I agree with cutting the roast down to a chateaubriand for even cooking.

                    A roasting alternative would be to sear the meat thoroughly on the stove top and then roast in a 200 degree oven until a meat thermometer registers 125 - 130 degrees. Remove and let rest for 30 minutes before carving. This method will take much longer than those mentioned before but you will carve slices of tenderloin that are almost uniformly light red/pink on the inside with a nice browned crust around the edges. If you don't want to sear or want to prepare the whole roast try starting it in the oven at 200 degrees until you are 10 degrees or so from your desired finishing temp, remove the roast and raise the heat to 500. When the oven is ready return the roast to the oven and cook until your desired crustiness is achieved. Rest for 30 minutes before carving.

                    For a sauce that fits your criteria how about adding the mushrooms duxelles you mentioned (I assume made with olive oil, not butter) to a port wine reduction? Reduce 4 cups of port along with some onion, carrots and bay leaves to 1 1/2 cups. Stir in mushroom duxelles to get the consistency you want and pass at the table.

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                    1. re: cf

                      Thanks for the advice. The last time I attempted pairing a steak sauced with port reduction with a nice bordeaux, the sauces sweetness overwhelmed the wine. Maybe I used the wrong port? (it was a $20 lbv that the store owner said would be great as a sauce). So I'm kind of scared to do that again...

                      1. re: adam

                        Not being a wine guy I guess I did not take that into consideration. Sorry. It is a bit of a challenge to find a good sauce when dairy is no longer in the equation.

                        You might try a warm Provencal Vinaigrette as the sauce for the roast. Saute some garlic, shallots and mushrooms until tender. Add some diced tomatoes, green/black olives, vegetable broth, EVO, vinegar and herbs de Provence and S&P to taste and blend until smooth. Warm and serve alongside or drizzled over the sliced roast.

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